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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,758
    Even if it was true and Cousins was 9/10 while Kashi and Ba were 8/10, I am confident Cousins can do a 7/10 job on the wing while Kashi and Ba are unknown quantities out there.

    I'm just pleased we have this kind of quality in central midfield this season. Selection headaches are a good problem to have.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,808
    think it's already pretty much known that he'll play LM (or left of a diamond) on sat

  • I'm just pleased we have this kind of quality in central midfield this season. Selection headaches are a good problem to have.

    Like you can't know if Kashi/Ba are worse than Cousins, how can you be sure we now have great quality in central midfield. I'd be willing to bet that our player of the year Cousins is better than someone who was brought with the scouting report saying he's a hatchet man though.

    I'd definitely be against putting our player of the year who just had the best year of his career in central midfield, after signing a long-term commitment to the club out in a poorer position.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,758


    I'm just pleased we have this kind of quality in central midfield this season. Selection headaches are a good problem to have.

    Like you can't know if Kashi/Ba are worse than Cousins, how can you be sure we now have great quality in central midfield. I'd be willing to bet that our player of the year Cousins is better than someone who was brought with the scouting report saying he's a hatchet man though.

    I'd definitely be against putting our player of the year who just had the best year of his career in central midfield, after signing a long-term commitment to the club out in a poorer position.
    Your call and it would be mine too.

    But we've already heard that Luzon really rates Kashi so I'm expecting him to start the season in the middle of the park.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    edited August 2015
    Cousins for all his talents isn't good enough out on the left. We can kid ourselves that he did a decent job out there under Peeters last season and when Powell shoved him out on the right the season before. He is a central midfielder. I would rather see Bergdich in advanced left sided role or Fox even.

    JBG doesn't like not being able to cut in. Let's not fall into the trap that Cousins will be okay out there. He also doesn't like it and I think it affects his game. #keepcousinsinthecentre
  • Pretty sure Cousins said in an interview recently that Luzon has told him that there is a chance that he'll be playing on the left from time to time.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    'but have a horrible feeling that Cousins will play LM on Saturday and thats very frustrating'

    it is if you have inadequate cover in CM but with Ba and Kashi now available to play there, plus Diarra, Cebellos too, it's not as frustrating as it could have been

    But Cousins is still better than any of them in CM and is wasted on the left.
    You've seen Ba, Kashi and Cebellos play how many times? Not enough to make that statement I'd wager.
    We don't know yet but I'd be surprised if they are. It's up to them to earn their place in CM, not the other way around.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Greenie said:

    'but have a horrible feeling that Cousins will play LM on Saturday and thats very frustrating'

    it is if you have inadequate cover in CM but with Ba and Kashi now available to play there, plus Diarra, Cebellos too, it's not as frustrating as it could have been

    But Cousins is still better than any of them in CM and is wasted on the left.
    How do you know?
    How do you not?
  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,351
    Has it been confirmed that Solly is injured for Saturday then?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254

    Pretty sure Cousins said in an interview recently that Luzon has told him that there is a chance that he'll be playing on the left from time to time.

    :neutral:
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I really want us to play a diamond anyway, Kashi DM, Cousins and Ba CM and JBG behind the front two. But that front two would have to be Watt and Igor as not many crosses into box means no real point in having Makienok start
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Greenie said:

    'but have a horrible feeling that Cousins will play LM on Saturday and thats very frustrating'

    it is if you have inadequate cover in CM but with Ba and Kashi now available to play there, plus Diarra, Cebellos too, it's not as frustrating as it could have been

    But Cousins is still better than any of them in CM and is wasted on the left.
    How do you know?
    How do you not?
    Well its simple, I don't know, so after your first statement I assumed you had some sort of knowledge.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Even if it was true and Cousins was 9/10 while Kashi and Ba were 8/10, I am confident Cousins can do a 7/10 job on the wing while Kashi and Ba are unknown quantities out there.

    I'm just pleased we have this kind of quality in central midfield this season. Selection headaches are a good problem to have.

    so they're unknown quantities yet you're "pleased we have this kind of quality in CM", that doesn't make sense?

    But in fairness, I am quite excited that these two seem decent players.
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    Greenie's so feisty these days
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,338
    I prefer Cousins in the middle, but believe the idea that he was crap out wide is a bit of a myth.

    The middle part of last season we were playing absolutely dreadful football as a team. It was a horror show at times. When that happens, I think fans naturally try to extrapolate simple reasons for the poor performances. Players out of position are an easy target for this sort of thing. Whenever the team lose, you often get armchair Mourinhos arbitrarily informing the world that the simple key to winning football matches is to 'play two up top' or in this case, 'get round pegs in round holes'. Cheers guys - where would we be without you?

    Within the wider context of a team that had some bad spells, Jordan had some excellent games out wide. He was so athletic and comfortable on the ball that he could track the play the entire length of the pitch, often winning the ball very high up. I personally thought he did a really good job, and wouldn't be worried at all if he starts either there or central on Saturday.
  • scidbox
    scidbox Posts: 535

    cabbles said:

    Harriott not in Chelmsford squad and not been with 1st team. Is he off tomorrow?

    Making room for Henry perhaps?
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    He's such a twat

    Handball cheating no good bstd Imo, no different to Maradona in that respect or Suarez
    It was against the Irish. He went up even further in my book.

    Legend of the game.
    Come around here wee man and talk your big talk ya wee gobshite ;)

  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645
    edited August 2015
    I completely agree that he was ok on the left, however our most influential player in running the game should be in his best position where he can do the best for our team, which is in the centre. I think Johann is a better player than Jordan, but poor central midfield play ruins us more than a quiet game from Johann. Last season our options bar him at centre mid were also pretty average/poor. I don't know about the new guys, and even though I am excited about what Ba can do in particular, Cousins should be the first name on the teamsheet at centre mid and we can look for the short term fix on the left from someone else (Tareiq or whoever).

    Edit: I completely forgot about Harriot's existence, I'd much rather him on the left with Cousins in the centre rather than Cousins on the right.
  • Leroy fer fails Sunderland medical
  • Cheers col
  • Damn that'll be because of his past as he failed at Medical which ended a possible move to Everton before he joined Norwich.

    Means he could play Saturday now and wont instantly mean he's injured
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558
    could play but his head will be all over the place so doubt he will myself
  • could play but his head will be all over the place so doubt he will myself

    No chance... Its against Charlton so he'll be pissed off over the failed medical, he'll play and run riot easily getting MOTM... the next day he'll fall over in the park, break his little finger and then be out for the season!!
  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    Head all over the place?!
  • Big_Bob said:

    Head all over the place?!

    He was desperate to team up with Steven Fletcher at Sunderland #headsgone
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558
    Big_Bob said:

    Head all over the place?!

    Yes, PL or playing for shitty little QPR? Saying that I still reckon it will go through but with a reduced loan fee.

    Also, in general, why are people so concerned about QPR? They went down for a reason, they were shit. It will take them a while to get over it. I think they will finish below us.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,758
    Jesse Lingard going to Bristol City for £2.5m
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Wiggins gone to Sheff Wed
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    1.1 MILLION looks .. 'kin terrific ... the Grauniad would kill for circulation figures like this ((:>)
  • SpicedAddick
    SpicedAddick Posts: 737
    edited August 2015
    mart77 said:

    Wiggins gone to Sheff Wed

    source?
    Nevermind. Gutted though.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,758
    mart77 said:

    Wiggins gone to Sheff Wed

    Signed a three year deal.

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