Charlton v Fulham - match thread
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The sarcastic cheers will do Pope the world of good!! - NOT!1
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You'd then have to have a defender a fair wedge back which would then bring the crowd further in, in turn probably making it tougher for Pope, with a huge crowd just in front of him rather than a little distance away.lancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
The only remedy for it is to either catch it OR deflect it awkwardly away, because a mis-catch will 'cushion' it out for strikers to pounce on2 -
And play everyone onside by having to accommodate a keeper who can't keep out a basic shot? Maybe we should get in a new, better keeper so we don't have to play around a major flawlancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
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Looks like the opposition know of Pope's weakness and are targetting it.1
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Erm their guy was onside anywaysam3110 said:
And play everyone onside by having to accommodate a keeper who can't keep out a basic shot? Maybe we should get in a new, better keeper so we don't have to play around a major flawlancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
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How can a goalkeepers weakness be shots?! People are trying to excuse the inexcusable, it's happening far too often now. Need a loan in.6
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Hahaha.lancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
It's more than a weakness. It's what stops you cutting it at this level.1 -
Playing everyone onside is a red herring. The defender simply needs to react quicker than the striker and clear.sam3110 said:
And play everyone onside by having to accommodate a keeper who can't keep out a basic shot? Maybe we should get in a new, better keeper so we don't have to play around a major flawlancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
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I thought we looked half decent for a lot of that half. Fulham initially had a lot of the ball, but didn't create much, I would say we probably made the better chances.
The sooner we get Henderson back the better, I'm a fan of Pope, and let's not forget some of the great saves he has made for us, but he just cannot handle balls that fizz along the ground.1 -
Were not even playing that bad, been a few nice spells for us. Shame we have a clown in goal.1
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Yes but we'd either have to play a defender 5 yards closer at all times, or sign Usain Bolt to mop up after Pope's spillagesForeverAddickted said:
Erm their guy was onside anywaysam3110 said:
And play everyone onside by having to accommodate a keeper who can't keep out a basic shot? Maybe we should get in a new, better keeper so we don't have to play around a major flawlancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
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Seriously. Can anyone quote an example of a PL or Championship club that routinely has a player allocated to this job at every dead ball situation?LenGlover said:
Playing everyone onside is a red herring. The defender simply needs to react quicker than the striker and clear.sam3110 said:
And play everyone onside by having to accommodate a keeper who can't keep out a basic shot? Maybe we should get in a new, better keeper so we don't have to play around a major flawlancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
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Pope is a good keeper when the ball is in the air or does not bounce.
As soon as it bounces he looks awful, not ony has he messed that up twice this game but also a number of other times.
You cant carry A goalkeeper , so unless he can rectify it soon I doubt he has a future here.0 -
Another factor to look at...You dont concede a free kick, they dont get the opportunity to score from it in the first place.
Yet you dont see the idiot who gave it away getting lynched on here... or McAlney for missing a golden chance in the first 40secs8 -
Are people really making excuses for Pope? If it was a one off, I could understand it. Its not and he is an accident waiting to happen. If that had been Dimitrovic making that mistake he'd have been slaughtered.
The look on the players faces said it all.
Its destroyed our confidence and undone a reasonable start.5 -
I feel sorry for the guy but Pope pretty much costs us a goal a game. It's not good enough and if he wasn't a youth product (of sorts), he'd be in for all kinds of stick. I'm glad that isn't the case but a change needs to be made....2
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A simple solution would be to provide him with a padded goal keepers jersey. It would reduce the speed that the ball rebounds from his chest in these situations increasing the chances that he can grab it before it bounces away. I am sure they uses to have padded goal keepers jerseys in the old days. Is there a rule about how padded a goal keepers jersey can be be. I'm not saying he should look like Michelin man next time he plays but I think he wear a as much padding as legally possible.4
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The idiot who gave it away, Ba, has been our best player by an absolute mileForeverAddickted said:Another factor to look at...You dont concede a free kick, they dont get the opportunity to score from it in the first place.
Yet you dont see the idiot who gave it away getting lynched on here... or McAlney for missing a golden chance in the first 40secs1 -
I can't believe Pope is being defended on here, to the point that we should have a defender alongside him because it's a bear on certainty that he'll drop it.
Is it not a basic requirement of a goalkeeper not to repeatedly spill the ball ?!
There's no difference between this muppet and Thuram. Oh no, that's right. Thuram wasn't homegrown.5 -
yes, but when you say Mitov is the answer you do look like a typical forum expert.Huskaris said:
Largely those people who have had their careers "ruined" by forum experts have ended up at much lower league clubs. It doesn't take a genius to identify when someone is way out of their depth.ForeverAddickted said:
Maybe because the boss knows what'll happen to him if he makes a mistake... Pigott / Pope wont be the first to have a career ruined by the forum expertsHuskaris said:I'll say it again. Mitov must be asking what has to happen in order for him to get a game. I would be having serious words with the manager. It's not fair on him.
The answer surely is the keeper we've sent to Alcorcon0 - Sponsored links:
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The fuck is Rob Lee talking about here? A gulf between the two sides? We were the better side most of the half and they are leading from a mistake.0
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Ahhhh so he's excused blame because of that then, he's given away about three free kicks for stupid fouls so farLeuth said:
The idiot who gave it away, Ba, has been our best player by an absolute mileForeverAddickted said:Another factor to look at...You dont concede a free kick, they dont get the opportunity to score from it in the first place.
Yet you dont see the idiot who gave it away getting lynched on here... or McAlney for missing a golden chance in the first 40secs0 -
Not good enough yet again0
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Red_in_SE8 said:
A simple solution would be to provide him with a padded goal keepers jersey. It would reduce the speed that the ball rebounds from his chest in these situations increasing the chances that he can grab it before it bounces away. I am sure they uses to have padded goal keepers jerseys in the old days. Is there a rule about how padded a goal keepers jersey can be be. I'm not saying he should look like Michelin man next time he plays but I think he wear a as much padding as legally possible.
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Seeing the replays on sky....... Defenders very slow to react at the goal.
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Haven't read the whole thread but in my opinion bit at times the football we are playing is better than when we were in the prem but the players are just not as good. We ain't doing a lot wrong just not clinical in the final third.
I used to come away somewhat thinking, how the fck we win that when we were in the prem as we never played great football week in week out, admitidly some times we were unplayable back then but other games were were awful and still won games.
I'm not sure I'm getting my point across the way I want to thoug!!! !
I'd love to have seen Luton with the players we had 10/12 years ago.0 -
My support for Pope is wavering. It wasn't just the goal but he made a hash of O'Hara's shot which could quite easily have gone in. Saying that McAleny and KAG should both have scored and overall we don't deserve to be behind and are playing ok Imo. From someone at the game.1
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No, it was diarra.Leuth said:
The idiot who gave it away, Ba, has been our best player by an absolute mileForeverAddickted said:Another factor to look at...You dont concede a free kick, they dont get the opportunity to score from it in the first place.
Yet you dont see the idiot who gave it away getting lynched on here... or McAlney for missing a golden chance in the first 40secs0 -
Come on. A goalkeeper who can't collect the ball that's straight at him does not fit in with your argument at all . As last year, he is costing us pointsLenGlover said:
This.lancashire lad said:Pope is not rubbish but his weakness is the powerful shot along the ground, you might think that the coach would have rectified it and a defender would be ready to kick away any rebound
It's a team game and all individuals have strengths and weaknesses.
It's not rocket science to instruct a defender to look out for deflections if the goalkeeper cannot hold the ball especially from free kicks.0 -
And no I'm not trying to find excuses for Pope... I just dont see it being productive digging one player out in what is a team game0
