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Ebola case confirmed on US soil (Now UK - p4).

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  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Good thing they said No to Independence, do you think we were going to let a foreign national with ebola cross the border?
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,197
    edited December 2014
    So this lady with ebola... she went to Sierra Leone, tended to people with ebola and then... got on a plane home feeling a bit iffy and didn't think much of it? And nobody in immigration at either end is thinking "look out for sick people who have recently been treating ebola patients"?! The airline don't look out for it!? EDIT - just read that she flew back via two other countries which I guess has something to do with it.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Katie Hopkins had caused a bit of a stir on twitter
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    I thought there was another Scottish person without who hadn't been anywhere or with anyone who.has been near the infected area

    We should quarantine every person returning from helping or being out there for two weeks before they can fly back
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    So, the total number of people infected outside Africa remains at... zero.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Has the second Scottish one been cleared then
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,013
    JiMMy 85 said:

    So this lady with ebola... she went to Sierra Leone, tended to people with ebola and then... got on a plane home feeling a bit iffy and didn't think much of it? And nobody in immigration at either end is thinking "look out for sick people who have recently been treating ebola patients"?! The airline don't look out for it!? EDIT - just read that she flew back via two other countries which I guess has something to do with it.

    I did also question this ...she was apparently ok at heathrow but had the fever by the time she arrived in Glasgow ...perhaps it is that sudden but at first glance, it appears a little lax by airport screening. They knew all these people had originated their journeys in Sierra Leone ...in any event, I hope she recovers soon.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,013
    Looks like my suspicions were valid
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    She was screened when she arrived at heathrow as she declared she had been to Sierra Leone but did not display any symptoms then. Only once she was back home did she get fever etc
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627
    MrOneLung said:

    She was screened when she arrived at heathrow as she declared she had been to Sierra Leone but did not display any symptoms then. Only once she was back home did she get fever etc

    This is the worry though isn't it. She turns up at Heathrow and says I've just come back from Sierra Leone and have been working as a volunteer at an Ebola centre and don't feel great. Slight temperature but no other symptoms. Don't worry we say to her off you go. Give your 27 colleagues a goodbye hug and jump on an aeroplane to Scotland.

    Looks pretty amateur hour to me.

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  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    Sounds like screening Ebola by numbers. She kept saying she didn't feel well, they took her temperature seven times and because it was within the "normal" range she was free to fly.

    So she was probably not infectious according to the experts, and that is all the screening at the airport can be expected to do. It is not the job of airlines to diagnose the diseases of travellers. Screening can at best only confirm the existence of a fever.

    Clearly the nurse was feeling unwell, so a fever is not the only sign of Ebola. Have some sympathy with the authorities who all along have said temperature screening is not foolproof. This just proves it.

    I wonder why the nurse was unable to take responsibility herself and put herself in isolation, she just went along with the system when she knew more about Ebola symptoms than those authorised to grant her clearance to travel, who were nothing more than trained temperature takers.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627
    Dippenhall said:

    Sounds like screening Ebola by numbers. She kept saying she didn't feel well, they took her temperature seven times and because it was within the "normal" range she was free to fly.

    So she was probably not infectious according to the experts, and that is all the screening at the airport can be expected to do. It is not the job of airlines to diagnose the diseases of travellers. Screening can at best only confirm the existence of a fever.

    Clearly the nurse was feeling unwell, so a fever is not the only sign of Ebola. Have some sympathy with the authorities who all along have said temperature screening is not foolproof. This just proves it.

    I wonder why the nurse was unable to take responsibility herself and put herself in isolation, she just went along with the system when she knew more about Ebola symptoms than those authorised to grant her clearance to travel, who were nothing more than trained temperature takers.

    It's because the airport screening programme is a PR sham.

    Somebody flying in from that country complaining of feeling unwell after working at an Ebola station should not be sent merrily on her way. She should have been isolated and kept under obs for 24 hours.

  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    A British nurse who was diagnosed with Ebola after returning from Sierra Leone is now in a critical condition, the London hospital treating her has said.

    The Royal Free Hospital said it was "sorry to announce that the condition of Pauline Cafferkey has gradually deteriorated over the past two days".
    I pray she makes it. Nasty disease.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627
    Sounds grim from the latest press release. A very sobering situation.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Very sad given how she went out there to help. Nothing but admiration and respect for all those trying to help, and this is terrible news. I really hope she can pull through. No one deserves that, least of all those trying to make a difference
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    Fingers crossed and everything else.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    good luck to a brave lady
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Pauline Cafferkey is no longer critical. Good news.
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,115
    nth london addick said:

    Has the second Scottish one been cleared then

    According to R4 she's off the critical list but not out of the woods yet, so some improvement.

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/joy-as-sierra-leones-last-ebola-patient-ends-treatment-but-grief-and-fear-remain/ar-BBm33rJ?li=AA9SkIr
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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Pauline Cafferkey, the British nurse who contracted Ebola in Sierra Leone last year is in a "serious condition" after being readmitted to an isolation unit in the Royal Free Hospital in London. It has been confirmed that the virus is still present in her body after being left over from the original infection.

    Best wishes to her - I hope there is the best possible outcome.

  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Hope she pulls through. A brave & very caring lady.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    Had she been back in West Africa since?

    Hope she pulls through
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Chizz said:

    Pauline Cafferkey, the British nurse who contracted Ebola in Sierra Leone last year is in a "serious condition" after being readmitted to an isolation unit in the Royal Free Hospital in London. It has been confirmed that the virus is still present in her body after being left over from the original infection.

    Best wishes to her - I hope there is the best possible outcome.

    Royal Free Hospital has announced that Pauline Cafferkey is "critically ill" after her condition deteriorated following a complication of the Ebola infection.

    Very sad news indeed.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    This isn't the site to share an on-going commentary on her condition, but I just saw that Pauline Cafferkey's condition has improved. She's no longer "critically ill", which is a great bit of news for her and her family.

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