MK Dons v Charlton | Tue 03 Mov | 7:45pm KICK-OFF | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views
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Got a.ticket for this in the home end through a family member. Be easier to hide my embarrassment
hope to see at least some effort from us. 8-0 away win 0 -
A 0-0 bore draw. Where is Kashi?1
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I look forward to seeing a bit of crowd action as the police wade in to remove you, after you start cheering us having a shot.moutuakilla said:Got a.ticket for this in the home end through a family member. Be easier to hide my embarrassment
hope to see at least some effort from us. 8-0 away win7 -
A tight game. 0-5.2
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Never felt like betting against my team more than for this game... so knowing my luck it'll be the game we turn it round. .. looking for a performance in reality!0
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A battling point. 1-1 draw.0
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If we can creep above the magic 26% pocession mark and maybe have 2 (two) shots on goal i think we can turn a corner. No doubt into a cul-de-sac but a corner turned i think...1
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Strange though it may seem, we have been in exactly this spot and it was less than a year ago.
After a string of poor results over the winter of 2104/15 the highly inexperienced but very enthusiastic (and cheap) manager, big bad bald Bob Peters, was replaced (in a very unprofessional and underhand manner) by another highly inexperienced but very enthusiastic (and cheap) manager, Guy Luzon.
Like Karal Fraeye, Luzon was someone we had never heard of, with no English football experience and a funny name. Like Fraeye, his only relevant qualification was that he was part of Roly's network and disaster loomed after we lost 5-0 at Watford on 17th January.
We then scrambled two draws followed by two two defeats to decent sides (Middlesborough and Norwich) And then to almost everyone's astonishment, we won 8 out of 9 and the great run was only screwed up by our Neanderthal friends from the New Den. Luzon was evidently a good motivator who deserves credit for turning things around post Peters and for attempting decent passing football. Sadly, he was vastly under-experienced in the nitty-gritty detailed stuff of English football management and probably had to endure lots of owner interference too.
My point is, even if we get a hard fought draw at MK Dons and Fraeye does inspire his men to perform miracles for a few matches, the best we can hope for is a repeat of the Peters and Luzon cycle. A decent surge followed by melt-down and confusion. This is not a recipe for any sort of success or stability. Boyish enthusiasm and motivation is good for a few games and then a couple of bad results mean the dressing room falls apart and there is not enough hard bitten experience and leadership to keep things on track, so we repeat the process of failure again and again.
The subtle difference this time is that both manager and squad have even less experience that at any other time in the Roly era.
Whatever his faults, Roly is clearly not a stupid man and he should know better than anyone, that if you keep using the same methods, you keep getting the same results. In this case, 0-3 defeats.
I think the MK Dons result is completely irrelevant unless it is so bad that it embarrasses the owner into reviewing his methods which is very unlikely.
Just for the record this will be 0-0 and we will stagger and limp through to a crisis at Christmas solved by the rapid and secret appointment of another highly inexperienced and enthusiastic (cheap) coach from the network with a funny name.1 -
after claiming that we can only field 11 players on the pitch at the weekend, Karel Smiley comes up with a tactical masterstroke and puts out a starting 13
we still lose 3-04 -
4-0 dons0
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This could be the start of a new dawn but I will feel happy with a 1-1 although expectation is at an all time low as I cant see who is going to score our goal. Bring on anyone like this youngster from the academy; after all that is how cousins and poyet got games....out of pure necessity. We have to be winning these games to stay up. Bugger.0
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None of us can see who will score a goal but at some point there will be one. Maybe not tonight but there will be one!. Gudmonsson is my guess.bromleyjohn said:This could be the start of a new dawn but I will feel happy with a 1-1 although expectation is at an all time low as I cant see who is going to score our goal. Bring on anyone like this youngster from the academy; after all that is how cousins and poyet got games....out of pure necessity. We have to be winning these games to stay up. Bugger.
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I will be making the short trip to Stadium MK but I'm not expecting too much.
2-0 defeat0 -
3-0 of course church hat - trick.0
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"Luzon was someone we had never heard of, with no English football experience and a funny name. Like Fraeye, his only relevant qualification was that he was part of Roly's network"grumpyaddick said:Strange though it may seem, we have been in exactly this spot and it was less than a year ago.
After a string of poor results over the winter of 2104/15 the highly inexperienced but very enthusiastic (and cheap) manager, big bad bald Bob Peters, was replaced (in a very unprofessional and underhand manner) by another highly inexperienced but very enthusiastic (and cheap) manager, Guy Luzon.
Like Karal Fraeye, Luzon was someone we had never heard of, with no English football experience and a funny name. Like Fraeye, his only relevant qualification was that he was part of Roly's network and disaster loomed after we lost 5-0 at Watford on 17th January.
We then scrambled two draws followed by two two defeats to decent sides (Middlesborough and Norwich) And then to almost everyone's astonishment, we won 8 out of 9 and the great run was only screwed up by our Neanderthal friends from the New Den. Luzon was evidently a good motivator who deserves credit for turning things around post Peters and for attempting decent passing football. Sadly, he was vastly under-experienced in the nitty-gritty detailed stuff of English football management and probably had to endure lots of owner interference too.
My point is, even if we get a hard fought draw at MK Dons and Fraeye does inspire his men to perform miracles for a few matches, the best we can hope for is a repeat of the Peters and Luzon cycle. A decent surge followed by melt-down and confusion. This is not a recipe for any sort of success or stability. Boyish enthusiasm and motivation is good for a few games and then a couple of bad results mean the dressing room falls apart and there is not enough hard bitten experience and leadership to keep things on track, so we repeat the process of failure again and again.
The subtle difference this time is that both manager and squad have even less experience that at any other time in the Roly era.
Whatever his faults, Roly is clearly not a stupid man and he should know better than anyone, that if you keep using the same methods, you keep getting the same results. In this case, 0-3 defeats.
I think the MK Dons result is completely irrelevant unless it is so bad that it embarrasses the owner into reviewing his methods which is very unlikely.
Just for the record this will be 0-0 and we will stagger and limp through to a crisis at Christmas solved by the rapid and secret appointment of another highly inexperienced and enthusiastic (cheap) coach from the network with a funny name.
I admire your enthusiasm but it's a bit off to suggest that Luzon's "only relevant qualification was that he was part of Roly's network" - whilst that's undoubtedly (apart from in the words of KM) why he got the job, he had managed Hapoel Tel Aviv and Standard Liege two of the biggest teams in their countries. Fraeye has only managed as much as the Belgian Dog & Duck team.5 -
0-0 / 1-0 MK Dons with Church to score most likely if they manage to score.1
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Having been an " interim manager" for 8 years and dropped onto some right basket cases you start with tiny steps.do my bet is our "interim" will
Try and score a goal
Try to get that goal early in the first half
Try to keep their goals under 3
Try to get a point
2 nil and the Interim Manager announces we are getting better and the squad is to big1 -
Luckily I'm working in Slovakia this week, no need for a stream thanks.2
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Can't see any reason why we could win. Massive home win and more excuses to follow......0
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To be fair MK Dons are dreadful too and - on paper - I think we have a better team than them. I'm not going to say "we should be beating them" but, even in our current state, we shouldn't be losing to them.sralan said:Can't see any reason why we could win. Massive home win and more excuses to follow......
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Tonight it suddenly all clicks into place and we discover that the injuries have been the reasons for the recent performances. Charlton play slick, one touch skillful football, rarely seen in the Championship, using both flanks to penetrate a poor, inadequate MK defence. Our two strikers have formed a positive understanding of each other during training and both score a brace. Our defence is so solid Wenger, Mouriniho and Van Gall all offer huge amounts in transfer fees, which are refused. The Sheffield Weds and Birmingham scouts offer to surrender before the forthcoming matches. Our away support starts singing "we are going up".
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And then you woke up.stevec said:Tonight it suddenly all clicks into place and we discover that the injuries have been the reasons for the recent performances. Charlton play slick, one touch skillful football, rarely seen in the Championship, using both flanks to penetrate a poor, inadequate MK defence. Our two strikers have formed a positive understanding of each other during training and both score a brace. Our defence is so solid Wenger, Mouriniho and Van Gall all offer huge amounts in transfer fees, which are refused. The Sheffield Weds and Birmingham scouts offer to surrender before the forthcoming matches. Our away support starts singing "we are going up".
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Correct.Fanny Fanackapan said:
And then you woke up.stevec said:Tonight it suddenly all clicks into place and we discover that the injuries have been the reasons for the recent performances. Charlton play slick, one touch skillful football, rarely seen in the Championship, using both flanks to penetrate a poor, inadequate MK defence. Our two strikers have formed a positive understanding of each other during training and both score a brace. Our defence is so solid Wenger, Mouriniho and Van Gall all offer huge amounts in transfer fees, which are refused. The Sheffield Weds and Birmingham scouts offer to surrender before the forthcoming matches. Our away support starts singing "we are going up".
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Mk Dos haven't scored in 3 games either, agent Church doing his job!se9addick said:
To be fair MK Dons are dreadful too and - on paper - I think we have a better team than them. I'm not going to say "we should be beating them" but, even in our current state, we shouldn't be losing to them.sralan said:Can't see any reason why we could win. Massive home win and more excuses to follow......
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I may be coming down with something, but I think we will win tonight, only because MK Dons are worse than even we are at the moment. However, even a win won't paper over the cracks, although expect Fraeye/KM to trumpet it shows they were right and we have turned the corner.0
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Excitement is at fever pitch over this fixture. Promises to be a feast of attacking football between two of the form teams in the Championship. Charlton are hoping to have another shot on goal should they get out of their own half and MK Dons will hope hot shot Simon Church has his shooting boots on.
After a superb performance at the weekend Charlton's new manager is confident of another 3-0 defeat. 'My players are good enough to keep this run going!' he told the mass of journalists.
The search goes on for the missing Charlton chief exec who has not been seen in recent weeks.2 -
Fixed...killerandflash said:
Mk Dos haven't scored in 3 games either, perfect timing for Church to discover his scoring touchse9addick said:
To be fair MK Dons are dreadful too and - on paper - I think we have a better team than them. I'm not going to say "we should be beating them" but, even in our current state, we shouldn't be losing to them.sralan said:Can't see any reason why we could win. Massive home win and more excuses to follow......
Anyone else remember Fernando Morientes and his time @ Liverpool... Hadnt scored all season and then came to the Valley1 -
Not sure I want to risk losing my padded seatkillerandflash said:
I look forward to seeing a bit of crowd action as the police wade in to remove you, after you start cheering us having a shot.moutuakilla said:Got a.ticket for this in the home end through a family member. Be easier to hide my embarrassment
hope to see at least some effort from us. 8-0 away win0 -
MK Dons 2-0 Charlton0
