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Clive Tyldesley & Glenn Hoddle

Halix
Halix Posts: 2,237
edited November 2015 in Charlton International
Is it just me who can't stand these two?, I've never liked Hoddle but when co-commentating with Tyldesley it just a whole new level of pain, and it drives me mental. I especially, hate, the way, that Tyldesley, has to, break everything down, to short, sentences.
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  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    It's like two people in the crowd having a chat.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,753
    Horrendous, although not as bad as it was with Townsend.

    Tyler and Neville the best IMO.
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    AddickFC81 said:

    It's like two people in the crowd having a chat.

    And you can't switch seats.
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    edited November 2015
    Addickted2TheReds said:

    Horrendous, although not as bad as it was with Townsend.

    Tyler and Neville the best IMO.

    Agree with that.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,004
    Hoddle expects everybody to be as good as he was. For the whole 90 minutes.
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    ValleyGary said:

    Hoddle expects everybody to be as good as he was. For the whole 90 minutes.

    NOBODY could ever be as good as Hoddle thinks he was.
  • AnAppyAddick
    AnAppyAddick Posts: 46
    We are finished.No I will take over and invest a billion and see my team win the European
    cup before I die.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,004
    Hoddle saying how calm Ali is around the box on the replay of his goal, just ten minutes after digging him out for never looking calm when Kane put him through.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,753
    Always thought Pougatch was good on 5 live and I much prefer him to Adrian Chiles.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,817
    Tyldesley is a vacuous, blethering, cushion-faced prick.

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    lordromford said:

    Tyldesley is a vacuous, blethering, cushion-faced prick.

    Very fair comment.
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    edited November 2015
    lordromford said:

    Tyldesley is a vacuous, blethering, cushion-faced prick.

    that's a relief I thought it was just me who disliked him
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Addickted2TheReds said:

    Horrendous, although not as bad as it was with Townsend.

    Tyler and Neville the best IMO.

    Completely agree. Much better than Andy "I don't know why he's done that, Clive" Townsend. It's not like you're paid to tell us why players make the decisions they do as co commentator. The only person who does that is G Neville
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,771
    I can think of a lot worse than those two.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,238
    Absolutely detest Tyldesley. Turn the sound down when he's commentating. Not many commentators I do like to be honest. Martin Tyler is ok and I don't mind Jonathan Pearce.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,032
    Did anyone else feel a bit uncomfortable as Hoddle started talking about the events in France...and you just began to wonder where he was going with his ramblings but then he stuck to the football.

    I bet his brain was doing overtime, telling himself not to say anything which could be seen as inflamatory.
  • tgarrat1
    tgarrat1 Posts: 266
    Andy Gray and Martin Tyler were the best IMO, 'take a bow son'
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    ValleyGary said:

    Hoddle expects everybody to be as good as he was. For the whole 90 minutes.

    Which was mentioned during his management career too. He'd be trying to coach players whilst simultaneously trying to prove that he was/is better than them.

  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,241
    JohnBoyUK said:

    Did anyone else feel a bit uncomfortable as Hoddle started talking about the events in France...and you just began to wonder where he was going with his ramblings but then he stuck to the football.

    I bet his brain was doing overtime, telling himself not to say anything which could be seen as inflamatory.

    What like they must have sinned in a previous life so brought it on themselves?
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,032
    iaitch said:

    JohnBoyUK said:

    Did anyone else feel a bit uncomfortable as Hoddle started talking about the events in France...and you just began to wonder where he was going with his ramblings but then he stuck to the football.

    I bet his brain was doing overtime, telling himself not to say anything which could be seen as inflamatory.

    What like they must have sinned in a previous life so brought it on themselves?
    I was indeed referring to the fact he has previous for saying the wrong thing.

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,381
    What a combination. What with my general levels of apathy towards England football, these two chumps and the fact it was a friendly, it was channel hopping time after the Marseillaise...
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited November 2015
    Just watching the Watford v Man Utd game. Glenn Hoddle and Michael Owen commentating. So bad that I've had to mute the sound. I've never heard anybody talk so much bullocks as Hoddle (actually that's a lie - Colin does)
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,241
    I don't know why BT have to have two summarisers and also have Howard Webb for any refereeing decisions, plus the amount of times they advertise upcoming games on BT its a wonder they have any time to commentate on what's happening on the pitch.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,817
    Listening to Michael Owen reminds me of this guy...
    http://youtu.be/uhiCFdWeQfA
  • Tramp
    Tramp Posts: 202
    The worst thing that happened to TV football was the introduction of the football "expert" summariser. Now you have two blokes having a chat, just like two blokes having a chat while watching the game in a pub.

    As for Glenn Hoddle, the man with some very unusual ideas; I wonder if he thinks all those people killed in Paris were because of the sins they had committed in previous lives?
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,199
    What Hoddle believes is completely irrelevant. What he said in an interview that most of us didn't read, let alone hear the quotes from, that took place over 15 years ago, really does not matter.

    He lost his job, and got widely mocked, and what he said had very little influence on what anybody else believes. Yet any time his name comes up, the bog standard response is "well, I wonder if he thinks past lives blah blah blah" like it's an original thought.

    Maybe those of you with disabled relations could take extra offence, but I still don't see the point in wasting the energy on that - what he says or thinks on that front didn't amount to a bean, let alone a hill of them.

    He's a very bright football mind, and has done an incredible amount of work for players who don't make it, helping them find careers one way or another. Nobody brings that up though, right? Why would you, it's not an easy joke to make to score internet points with.

    Sometimes he comes up with some interesting insights, but mostly he just sounds like a generic ITV summariser. It's a shame he's not a very engaging pundit, as he does often make sense. But it's fair to judge him on that alone, rather than bashing him for his, albeit completely out of whack to the rest of us, religious beliefs.

    Personally, I think all relgious people are mad, but I don't hit them on the head with it just because they dare to be on TV (where, I hasten to add, Hoddle hasn't said one goddamn thing about religion).
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,398
    JiMMy 85 said:

    What Hoddle believes is completely irrelevant. What he said in an interview that most of us didn't read, let alone hear the quotes from, that took place over 15 years ago, really does not matter.

    He lost his job, and got widely mocked, and what he said had very little influence on what anybody else believes. Yet any time his name comes up, the bog standard response is "well, I wonder if he thinks past lives blah blah blah" like it's an original thought.

    Maybe those of you with disabled relations could take extra offence, but I still don't see the point in wasting the energy on that - what he says or thinks on that front didn't amount to a bean, let alone a hill of them.

    He's a very bright football mind, and has done an incredible amount of work for players who don't make it, helping them find careers one way or another. Nobody brings that up though, right? Why would you, it's not an easy joke to make to score internet points with.

    Sometimes he comes up with some interesting insights, but mostly he just sounds like a generic ITV summariser. It's a shame he's not a very engaging pundit, as he does often make sense. But it's fair to judge him on that alone, rather than bashing him for his, albeit completely out of whack to the rest of us, religious beliefs.

    Personally, I think all relgious people are mad, but I don't hit them on the head with it just because they dare to be on TV (where, I hasten to add, Hoddle hasn't said one goddamn thing about religion).

    By that logic we best get Ron Atkinson back as well.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,241
    Aaah good old Big Ron.

    Remember watching a Spurs game, Anthony Gardner was playing left back for Spurs.

    'You know what Clive' says Big Ron.

    'What's that' says Clive.

    Ron replies 'He must be the biggest left back in captivity'.

    No big hoo haa, maybe pre PC days when everyone wasn't so delicate.

  • dancafc
    dancafc Posts: 1,009
    Ray Wilkins used to make me laugh when he commentated on Chelsea "oh that's a cracking tackle by John there"
  • Paddy7
    Paddy7 Posts: 1,663
    Ray Wilkins made me laugh a lot too - when he was still skipper of Chelsea and smugly suggested to Brian Moore that he thought they'd see us off in their next fixture. Step forward Flanagan & McAuley!

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