Vote for the new New Zealand flag

Surely the laws of heraldry dictate that the flag should incorporate a "camper van couchant"?

That new flag is very striking. Will become one of the worlds most recognisable emblems.

Henry Irving said:

ForeverAddickted said:

And if it does get changed John Key's name will be in the History Books forever as the man who gave New Zealand their own flag... Which is of course is all I'm sure he cares about

They've got their own flag now. It's just a different flag.

Good point... Have amended my post

The New Zealand flag is fine as it is. It perfectly encapsulates the kiwis.

It's basically the Australian one, but less good. Just like New Zealand.

Personally think the possible new flag is much nicer then the current one, just surprised how many British people I have seen online being so agitated by this potentially happening, not sure how I am going break the news about India.............

Lincsaddick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Apparently we have a winner ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35059898

what a piece of rubbish .. I wouldn't use it to wash my car .. and not even a semblance of British heritage .. NZers, be they of European, South Seas or Maori heritage need to remember which nation gave them their laws, stability and the majority of their 21st century culture, and its a blow as far as I am concerned to all the relatives of the thousands of brave Kiwis who fought and died for Britain in two world wars .. this flag I repeat is a piece of commercial dross

It has the Union Jack colours. Your post is completely insane besides this, obviously

smudge7946 said:

The New Zealand flag is fine as it is. It perfectly encapsulates the kiwis.

It's basically the Australian one, but less good. Just like New Zealand.

can you please explain that last comment?

Daddy_Pig said:

Henry Irving said:

And when people find out this flag isn't being used any more they will moan about that country too for rejecting the nation that "gave them their laws, stability and the majority of their 21st century culture"

Can you guess who it is? : - )

Canada?

If it's Fiji and not Canada .. and anyone equating Fiji with New Zealand is just showing what a tenuous grasp they have on actuality, or rather they are basing an argument on a little knowledge of the situation, and a little knowledge in this, as in many cases, is a bad thing ..
Fiji NEVER had a huge influx of British settlers as did New Zealand, never imbibed British culture and way of life as did New Zealand .. I don't blame Fiji for changing it's flag, so reminiscent of the 'Red Duster' used by the British merchant marine, and of course Fiji has undergone suspension from the Commonwealth in the past, so perhaps the Fijian people, many of whom serve with distinction in the UK armed forces, think it's time to cut the ties with the flag.
I maintain that it's a pity that New Zealand with its long really British traditions (I have been there and it is (perhaps was) VERY British culturally) has chosen such a god awful flag to possibly replace the existing one.

Lincsaddick said:

Daddy_Pig said:

Henry Irving said:

And when people find out this flag isn't being used any more they will moan about that country too for rejecting the nation that "gave them their laws, stability and the majority of their 21st century culture"

Can you guess who it is? : - )

Canada?

If it's Fiji .. and anyone equating Fiji with New Zealand is just showing what a tenuous grasp they have on actuality, or rather they are basing an argument on a little knowledge of the situation, and a little knowledge in this, as in many cases, is a bad thing ..
Fiji NEVER had a huge influx of British settlers as did New Zealand, never imbibed British culture and way of life as did New Zealand .. I don't blame Fiji for changing it's flag, so reminiscent of the 'Red Duster' used by the British merchant marine, and of course Fiji has undergone suspension from the Commonwealth in the past, so perhaps the Fijian people, many of whom serve with distinction in the UK armed forces, think it's time to cut the ties with the flag.
I maintain that it's a pity that New Zealand with its long really British traditions (I have been there and it is (perhaps was) VERY British culturally) has chosen such a god awful flag to possibly replace the existing one.

Er... No. It's Canada. (See the post above yours or, if you still don't believe me, this page from the Canadian Heritage website on the history of Canadian flags:)

Canadian flags

Is there a flag with Frodo and Gandalf on?

Lincsaddick said:

lordromford said:

Lincsaddick said:

Daddy_Pig said:

Henry Irving said:

And when people find out this flag isn't being used any more they will moan about that country too for rejecting the nation that "gave them their laws, stability and the majority of their 21st century culture"

Can you guess who it is? : - )

Canada?

If it's Fiji .. and anyone equating Fiji with New Zealand is just showing what a tenuous grasp they have on actuality, or rather they are basing an argument on a little knowledge of the situation, and a little knowledge in this, as in many cases, is a bad thing ..
Fiji NEVER had a huge influx of British settlers as did New Zealand, never imbibed British culture and way of life as did New Zealand .. I don't blame Fiji for changing it's flag, so reminiscent of the 'Red Duster' used by the British merchant marine, and of course Fiji has undergone suspension from the Commonwealth in the past, so perhaps the Fijian people, many of whom serve with distinction in the UK armed forces, think it's time to cut the ties with the flag.
I maintain that it's a pity that New Zealand with its long really British traditions (I have been there and it is (perhaps was) VERY British culturally) has chosen such a god awful flag to possibly replace the existing one.

Er... No. It's Canada. (See the post above yours or, if you still don't believe me, this page from the Canadian Heritage website on the history of Canadian flags:)

Canadian flags

no I believe you .. the Fiji flag, which is being changed, is very similar to the old Canadian one .. and Canada (I have been there as well) is not nearly so British as NZ, huge American influence and of course for the French Canadians, the Union Flag version was as popular as herpes .. EDIT In fact the RED version of the Fiji flag is only used by the marine .. SO .. 80% of my previous post is a load of old bollox ((:<) .. still the fact remains that the mooted NZ national flag is rubbish</p>

No Lincs, that's not a fact, it's an opinion.

anyone equating Canada with New Zealand is just showing what a tenuous grasp they have on actuality, or rather they are basing an argument on a little knowledge of the situation, and a little knowledge in this, as in many cases, is a bad thing ..
Canada NEVER had such a huge, overwhelming influx of British settlers as did New Zealand, never imbibed British culture and way of life as did New Zealand. Canada, like the USA experienced mass immigration from all over Europe as New Zealand in the early days did not .. I don't blame Canada for changing it's flag, so reminiscent of the 'Red Duster' used by the British merchant marine. Canada (I have been there as well as to New Zealand) is not nearly so British as NZ, huge American influence and of course for the French Canadians, the Union Flag version was as popular as herpes ..
Of course a know all curator of a small speciality museum who has travelled the world and visited both New Zealand and Canada, enjoying and experiencing their respective cultures and way of life is entitled to a different opinion to me, even though that opinion seems to be prejudiced by a disdain for what I would term 'British culture and way of life'. Even a curator who as a self appointed arbiter of good manners, language and taste who is quick to chastise those whom he deems to be sexist, racist or even slightly non pc .. even such a curator who on a recent post was noticeably quiet when the female CAFC CEO was referred to several times as 'a bitch', even so timid and selective a curator, scared to fall out with his cronies, is entitled to his warped opinion.

EDIT Bold (not timid) Henry .. is a horse running at Cheltenham today .. The Racing Post opines 'could go well after a long lay off' .. we will see ((:>)

Lincsaddick said:

anyone equating Canada with New Zealand is just showing what a tenuous grasp they have on actuality, or rather they are basing an argument on a little knowledge of the situation, and a little knowledge in this, as in many cases, is a bad thing ..
Canada NEVER had such a huge, overwhelming influx of British settlers as did New Zealand, never imbibed British culture and way of life as did New Zealand. Canada, like the USA experienced mass immigration from all over Europe as New Zealand in the early days did not .. I don't blame Canada for changing it's flag, so reminiscent of the 'Red Duster' used by the British merchant marine. Canada (I have been there as well as to New Zealand) is not nearly so British as NZ, huge American influence and of course for the French Canadians, the Union Flag version was as popular as herpes ..
Of course a know all curator of a small speciality museum who has travelled the world and visited both New Zealand and Canada, enjoying and experiencing their respective cultures and way of life is entitled to a different opinion to me, even though that opinion seems to be prejudiced by a disdain for what I would term 'British culture and way of life'. Even a curator who as a self appointed arbiter of good manners, language and taste who is quick to chastise those whom he deems to be sexist, racist or even slightly non pc .. even such a curator who on a recent post was noticeably quiet when the female CAFC CEO was referred to several times as 'a bitch', even so timid and selective a curator, scared to fall out with his cronies, is entitled to his warped opinion.

EDIT Bold (not timid) Henry .. is a horse running at Cheltenham today .. The Racing Post opines 'could go well after a long lay off' .. we will see ((:>)

Well if they vote for the Union flag, all will be good.

If they vote for the new one, all will be good.