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  • omg that last tweet, whoops!
  • totally irresponsible behaviour from someone who knew his target idolised him, a tale as old as celebrity. this example broke the law but plenty more besides do not, despite being equally nefarious. the saddest thing is that johnson probably didn't realise that he was being predatory at all
  • Leuth said:

    totally irresponsible behaviour from someone who knew his target idolised him, a tale as old as celebrity. this example broke the law but plenty more besides do not, despite being equally nefarious. the saddest thing is that johnson probably didn't realise that he was being predatory at all

    In what way?
  • How can he not realise he was being predatory? Just exchange the football shirt for sweeties and you have the classic predator scenario.
  • It's uncomfortable reading to say the least, he's obviously got a weird thrill from the danger which is why he kept in contact knowing she was underage, the sickest thing is that if she was 16 and thus above legal age, he probably wouldn't have gone anywhere near her.
  • Classic privileged manchild. Considers it a sexual meeting between two young people and a fair exchange (she meets her hero, he gets the sex the world owes him), doesn't for a minute consider the imbalance of this, only gets concerned for himself when he realises he might be a criminal now.

  • Apart from being a wrong'un, he's such a romantic. Behind a Chinese takeaway FFS.

  • Leuth said:

    Classic privileged manchild. Considers it a sexual meeting between two young people and a fair exchange (she meets her hero, he gets the sex the world owes him), doesn't for a minute consider the imbalance of this, only gets concerned for himself when he realises he might be a criminal now.

    He knew exactly what he was doing.
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  • Leuth said:

    Classic privileged manchild. Considers it a sexual meeting between two young people and a fair exchange (she meets her hero, he gets the sex the world owes him), doesn't for a minute consider the imbalance of this, only gets concerned for himself when he realises he might be a criminal now.

    Oh Leuth
  • That final search indicates otherwise!

    There is no way this couldn't have gone wrong. He was opportunistic and ultimately predatory, but I don't think paedophilia was his motive, just sexual incontinence and an horrendous attitude. Women are used by men all the time. Hopefully this case will make a few men more aware of what is acceptable.
  • N.B. I am not saying that what he did was excusable. It was atrocious. If anything I would like to see more sexual entrapment criminalised, for victims above and below the age of consent.
  • Leuth said:

    That final search indicates otherwise!

    There is no way this couldn't have gone wrong. He was opportunistic and ultimately predatory, but I don't think paedophilia was his motive, just sexual incontinence and an horrendous attitude. Women are used by men all the time. Hopefully this case will make a few men more aware of what is acceptable.

    Come on Leuth, I know you have to be, well, you, but I think it's inappropriate to remove the blame from the perpetrator in this case. He searched the legal age of consent, which shows that he knew full well what he'd done was predatory - he's having a little check, he hasn't had some dawning realisation, especially when you consider before that he asked 'when you 16?' and told her she looked 'old enough'. He repeatedly badgered her into meeting with him, using her desire for the signed shirt of her hero to abuse her. He clearly knows she's underage and what that means and he still took advantage of her, so I don't see how you can claim paedophilia wasn't his motive. Let's not blame all the money he's been given for his choices
  • edited February 2016
    Leuth said:

    That final search indicates otherwise!

    There is no way this couldn't have gone wrong. He was opportunistic and ultimately predatory, but I don't think paedophilia was his motive, just sexual incontinence and an horrendous attitude. Women are used by men all the time. Hopefully this case will make a few men more aware of what is acceptable.

    Frightening.
  • Leuth said:

    That final search indicates otherwise!

    There is no way this couldn't have gone wrong. He was opportunistic and ultimately predatory, but I don't think paedophilia was his motive, just sexual incontinence and an horrendous attitude. Women are used by men all the time. Hopefully this case will make a few men more aware of what is acceptable.

    Come on Leuth, I know you have to be, well, you, but I think it's inappropriate to remove the blame from the perpetrator in this case. He searched the legal age of consent, which shows that he knew full well what he'd done was predatory - he's having a little check, he hasn't had some dawning realisation, especially when you consider before that he asked 'when you 16?' and told her she looked 'old enough'. He repeatedly badgered her into meeting with him, using her desire for the signed shirt of her hero to abuse her. He clearly knows she's underage and what that means and he still took advantage of her, so I don't see how you can claim paedophilia wasn't his motive. Let's not blame all the money he's been given for his choices
    Not removing blame, nor placing it on money - any charismatic young man can pull this stunt. I sincerely think he let his cock fool him into thinking it was ok, no matter what the law might say. Then he checked to see exactly how much trouble he might be in. At no point did he consider his victim's right to a say in anything. This form of entrapment needs to be culturally destroyed, whether the victim is underage or not. That is the big moral issue here imo
  • Leuth said:

    That final search indicates otherwise!

    There is no way this couldn't have gone wrong. He was opportunistic and ultimately predatory, but I don't think paedophilia was his motive, just sexual incontinence and an horrendous attitude. Women are used by men all the time. Hopefully this case will make a few men more aware of what is acceptable.

    When I posted my original comment on this thread, I put my point across badly & cringed when I read it back. I really hope you do the same
  • At the start all she's interested in is getting a signed shirt, whereas he's asking when she turns 16!
  • Leuth said:

    That final search indicates otherwise!

    There is no way this couldn't have gone wrong. He was opportunistic and ultimately predatory, but I don't think paedophilia was his motive, just sexual incontinence and an horrendous attitude. Women are used by men all the time. Hopefully this case will make a few men more aware of what is acceptable.

    Frightening.
    What is frightening are people (not necessarily you) who get all BURN THE PAEDOS online and then exploit women afterwards.

    This victim was vulnerable due to her age and fanhood. Others are vulnerable for a host of other reasons. All need protection.
  • Leuth said:

    Leuth said:

    That final search indicates otherwise!

    There is no way this couldn't have gone wrong. He was opportunistic and ultimately predatory, but I don't think paedophilia was his motive, just sexual incontinence and an horrendous attitude. Women are used by men all the time. Hopefully this case will make a few men more aware of what is acceptable.

    Come on Leuth, I know you have to be, well, you, but I think it's inappropriate to remove the blame from the perpetrator in this case. He searched the legal age of consent, which shows that he knew full well what he'd done was predatory - he's having a little check, he hasn't had some dawning realisation, especially when you consider before that he asked 'when you 16?' and told her she looked 'old enough'. He repeatedly badgered her into meeting with him, using her desire for the signed shirt of her hero to abuse her. He clearly knows she's underage and what that means and he still took advantage of her, so I don't see how you can claim paedophilia wasn't his motive. Let's not blame all the money he's been given for his choices
    Not removing blame, nor placing it on money - any charismatic young man can pull this stunt. I sincerely think he let his cock fool him into thinking it was ok, no matter what the law might say. Then he checked to see exactly how much trouble he might be in. At no point did he consider his victim's right to a say in anything. This form of entrapment needs to be culturally destroyed, whether the victim is underage or not. That is the big moral issue here imo
    For me the big moral issue is an adult sexually abusing a child. And then lying about it to his family and the police. I get what you're trying to say but there's a point where you devolve down to the 'classic manchild' scenario or say he 'let his cock fool him' and you've reached a point where there's no argument left to make. You may as well say 'his brain made him do it'. Which it did, but there's no point discussing that. We know he let his cock rule his head here but that's exactly the problem. He decided that his sexual needs outweighed anything else like the law or the effect it would have on a child and committed a crime. This wasn't impulse and he knew he was being predatory. I think you may have talked yourself in circles here
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  • LenGlover said:

    It appears blatantly clear that Johnson knew the girl was 15 but sexually exploited her regardless.

    Indefensible in my view. I'd guess you are a youngster Leuth and have no children of your own as yet.

    I suspect your attitude to people like Johnson will change if and when you do.

    i think he just wants to be on the other side of the "argument" tbh
  • Of course it's indefensible. Where have I defended it? I'm making a wider point about exploitation and privilege. This goes beyond paedophilia.
  • This is like when you all thought I was in favour of terrorism...
  • Read all on this thread and still confused.
    How many charges, why admit/plead guilty to two.
    What other charges are being contested.......If he said he knew she was underage and "groomed" her, what else is there ?
  • Did Ched Evans ever find himself a club again after he came out of prison? Last I heard he was abroad somewhere
  • Read all on this thread and still confused.
    How many charges, why admit/plead guilty to two.
    What other charges are being contested.......If he said he knew she was underage and "groomed" her, what else is there ?

    i believe there is a separate charge of sexual activity with a minor for each act so i think he is contesting how many time he did it rather than that he did it.
  • @Leuth

    As Katrien needs to learn, if everyone misunderstands you then it's your fault and not everybody else's.

    Frankly, I think you just want to be on the other side of the coin so that you seem profound ... again.
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