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Laurence Bloom on his way to Nott' Forrest (now Millwall)
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OK. I had a look and it seems he was held in really high regard both within and without the club. Looks like he'll be a huge miss!PL54 said:I'm on a phone so can't do it. Can someone put Bloom into the search field of this site and remind everyone when he was last mentioned.
Is that what you meant @PL54? I tried the same with your name by the way...11 -
We will get whoever is cheap.0
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Given that pretty much every side we play look fitter and sharper than us and that we have more injured players than fit is this really the end of the world?
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Well, considering our players "appear" to be more unfit than any others & appear to get more injuries, than any others, there certainly appears to be an issue. I'm not saying Bloom is to blame, but there is a question mark.Henry Irving said:2 -
bbob said:
Given that pretty much every side we play look fitter and sharper than us and that we have more injured players than fit is this really the end of the world?
Is that because Bloom is no good at his job in which case players would have been unfit since 2011 or is it because we buy unfit players and overplay others?Covered End said:
Well, considering our players "appear" to be more unfit than any others & appear to get more injuries, than any others, there certainly appears to be an issue. I'm not saying Bloom is to blame, but there is a question mark.Henry Irving said:
Or a combination of all three.1 -
tbf I have never heard of the bloke.PL54 said:I'm on a phone so can't do it. Can someone put Bloom into the search field of this site and remind everyone when he was last mentioned.
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Definitely 2 and 3. But is it also 1 ?Henry Irving said:bbob said:Given that pretty much every side we play look fitter and sharper than us and that we have more injured players than fit is this really the end of the world?
Is that because Bloom is no good at his job in which case players would have been unfit since 2011 or is it because we buy unfit players and overplay others?Covered End said:
Well, considering our players "appear" to be more unfit than any others & appear to get more injuries, than any others, there certainly appears to be an issue. I'm not saying Bloom is to blame, but there is a question mark.Henry Irving said:
Or a combination of all three.
I don't know, but as I said it's questionable.0 -
Haha, Bloom is far to blame from this current crops fitness problems. The coaching methods of a certain someone (and the complete mismatch of different training regimes) and the players themselves that we have got are the to blame. One week they were being underworked the next well overworked, doesn't bode well for a professional & not Laurence's job to step in.Covered End said:
Well, considering our players "appear" to be more unfit than any others & appear to get more injuries, than any others, there certainly appears to be an issue. I'm not saying Bloom is to blame, but there is a question mark.Henry Irving said:
He was seemingly a lot more involved in our League One winning season and the season or two following, lesser so these days.4 -
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Only yes men/women survive in this regime.2
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Well, I've no idea. But our players have been outrun & outfought all season & blowing out their arses long before the opposition (generally).Atletico Addick said:
Haha, Bloom is far to blame from this current crops fitness problems. The coaching methods of a certain someone (and the complete mismatch of different training regimes) and the players themselves that we have got are the to blame. One week they were being underworked the next well overworked, doesn't bode well for a professional & not Laurence's job to step in.Covered End said:
Well, considering our players "appear" to be more unfit than any others & appear to get more injuries, than any others, there certainly appears to be an issue. I'm not saying Bloom is to blame, but there is a question mark.Henry Irving said:
He was seemingly a lot more involved in our League One winning season and the season or two following, lesser so these days.1 -
I know a bloke who works at the club who has been saying for ages that Bloom is a liability and is part of the problem. Too soft on the players apparently.
I have no idea if that's right or not, but he has made the point to me on several occasions.3 -
I'm happy to take Brunello's opinion on this.6
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Lack of a anywhere near competitive pre-season for any of our playing players, inconsistent coaching methods to say the least, and signing unfit and injury prone players.Covered End said:
Well, I've no idea. But our players have been outrun & outfought all season & blowing out their arses long before the opposition (generally).Atletico Addick said:
Haha, Bloom is far to blame from this current crops fitness problems. The coaching methods of a certain someone (and the complete mismatch of different training regimes) and the players themselves that we have got are the to blame. One week they were being underworked the next well overworked, doesn't bode well for a professional & not Laurence's job to step in.Covered End said:
Well, considering our players "appear" to be more unfit than any others & appear to get more injuries, than any others, there certainly appears to be an issue. I'm not saying Bloom is to blame, but there is a question mark.Henry Irving said:
He was seemingly a lot more involved in our League One winning season and the season or two following, lesser so these days.
Also, fitness always shows when you are a weaker team.
Anyway, as Hartleypete says, only yes men/women survive in this regime, nothing to do with much else.2 -
The fitness of players coming to this club over the last two years has been Very poor. Either skilful young players like Tony Watt and Astrit Ajdarevic who had no conditioning and relied on their talent.
Lepoint, recovering from a car crash, Thuram with a phobia for catching a football. Reza with a penchant for falling over when touched. Nego who first words of English were "i no Right Back" and looked bulimic. Diarra who had lost 18 months of his career at West Ham with injury.
Simon Church had a Spongefoot. Harriott got injured trying a step over.
JJ legs had gone, Solly with his knee issue, Wiggins with his sick notes,
Cebellos with his foot in plaster, Igor with his achilles and groin problem,
Bauer with his groin problem, Sonogo has a bad back, Cousins has a tight groin, Rojo has been playing in India and drinking Kingfisher.
Fanni, Motta, and Suk Young have turned up under cooked.
His mates, Matthew and Roberts have moved on.
The owner is Weird,
The CEO is weird.
I can't think why Lawrence Bloom would want to leave ?
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Our pre-seasons have really been dire these past couple of seasons, must impact the fitness of the players during the campaign.Atletico Addick said:
Lack of a anywhere near competitive pre-season for any of our playing players, inconsistent coaching methods to say the least, and signing unfit and injury prone players.Covered End said:
Well, I've no idea. But our players have been outrun & outfought all season & blowing out their arses long before the opposition (generally).Atletico Addick said:
Haha, Bloom is far to blame from this current crops fitness problems. The coaching methods of a certain someone (and the complete mismatch of different training regimes) and the players themselves that we have got are the to blame. One week they were being underworked the next well overworked, doesn't bode well for a professional & not Laurence's job to step in.Covered End said:
Well, considering our players "appear" to be more unfit than any others & appear to get more injuries, than any others, there certainly appears to be an issue. I'm not saying Bloom is to blame, but there is a question mark.Henry Irving said:
He was seemingly a lot more involved in our League One winning season and the season or two following, lesser so these days.
Also, fitness always shows when you are a weaker team.
Anyway, as Hartleypete says, only yes men/women survive in this regime, nothing to do with much else.3 -
We are too weak and have been for a few seasons. We are unfit too.
Inclined to trust those thinking this isn't a big deal1 -
I can't stand it anymore.dickplumb said:Rats leaving a sinking ship.
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If Bloom was as bad as some are indicating on here, why have none of the 6 manager's he has worked under for us not got rid of him. Also why would a club higher up the league want him?8
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It's not long after Doc Fraser retired so I wonder if that has made the atmosphere even worse and he's getting out while he can.0
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One of the many questions I think we should expect an answer to is
- what is the budget for fitness and medical staff this season and what was it in 2013 -14, and in 2012-13?
- what has been the expenditure on external medical costs (operations and consultations) in that period
- who have been the senior permanent staff on the payroll for fitness and medical in the period under review?
Fat chance of getting an answer? Well hang on, we are customers, and we have a right to know before we buy, that the goods are fit for purpose. For example when you get on a plane, you believe the pilot has passed all appropriate medical checks.2 -
Now I'm not being funny but since the other guy concentrated on the youth, our youth appear to have had less injuries (last 12-24 months at least)
As soon as Bloom picks them up when they come into training with the 1st, they start picking up injuries.0 -
In normal circumstances this would just be seen as someone changing jobs like we all do after a few years in the same place. He did 5 years at Southend, and 5 years with us.
Of course, nothing is that straight forward nowadays!0 -
Don't be reasonable... that's a sign they're winning!killerandflash said:In normal circumstances this would just be seen as someone changing jobs like we all do after a few years in the same place. He did 5 years at Southend, and 5 years with us.
Of course, nothing is that straight forward nowadays!3 -
A pretty decent observation to be fair, and one that should act as a reminder that not everything needs to be converted in to ammunition!Dazzler21 said:Now I'm not being funny but since the other guy concentrated on the youth, our youth appear to have had less injuries (last 12-24 months at least)
As soon as Bloom picks them up when they come into training with the 1st, they start picking up injuries.
However, it's worth pointing out that the academy lads have some form of continuity in the staff that are coaching them - and this means continuity in the training methods. Further, the academy squad is likely not as thread bare as the senior team - so aren't likely to be pushed as hard when injuries initially occur; albeit that's a bit of a catch-22 as ours is threadbare due to injuries.
Then there's the fact our senior squad is likely to be more effected from players coming in from different environments - other clubs and nations - compounded by the rumours that some of our latest additions haven't even had correct medicals as they are outsourced!3 -
Hopefully Roland rat and the his 2 sidekicks do the same Seth.dickplumb said:Rats leaving a sinking ship.
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ricky_otto said:
Hopefully Roland rat and the his 2 sidekicks do the same Seth.dickplumb said:Rats leaving a sinking ship.
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Glad he has gone, so we can now get a Belgium bloke in his place.1
