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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    as opposed to championship fodder ....

    give me one win against arsenal over 10 against barnsley
    but i'm sure mr dj you'd prefer us winning every week in non league;-)
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    Yep.

    Just look at the stats. How bad were we from Feb - May in our last 4/5 seasons in the Prem? Bloody awful, especially at home.
    Just like West Ham this season.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    edited April 2008
    you mean just like we have been with pardew this season and last
    it's about the whole season not the final third
    anyway mr dj you are a newcastle, arsenal, liverpool or whatever fan and charlton are somewhere in your list but i'm charlton and only charlton so there probably lies the difference i want my team to become an arsenal or liverpool(success wise)!!
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    I want to enjoy watching Charlton. I have not enjoyed watching them as much as I thought I would this season addmitedly, but, I have no interest watching them struggle week after week in the Prem. Simple as that.

    West Ham have Derby on Saturday, that will be interesting.
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    I am not bitching.
    I said it 5 years ago, 4 years ago, 3 years ago and 2 years ago.
    There was a fundemental reason why our players could not perform after reaching saftey in the Prem.
    I said the fault lay with the management. That management are now elswhere and the same seems to be happening.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    [cite]Posted By: DJ Davey Dave[/cite]That management are now elswhere and the same seems to be happening.

    at charlton or west ham ... cos i know last year the end of season poor form materialised at charlton not west ham hence they stayed up and we didn't unforunate for me but lucky for you!!
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    [cite]Posted By: DJ Davey Dave[/cite]I am not bitching.
    I said it 5 years ago, 4 years ago, 3 years ago and 2 years ago.
    There was a fundemental reason why our players could not perform after reaching saftey in the Prem.
    I said the fault lay with the management. That management are now elswhere and the same seems to be happening.
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,641
    maybe we should have done a pardew watch.
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    101 yippee
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    Just seen him on MOTD, he sees the season as a sucess, indeed he's looking for a bit of praise!
    Well done, youv'e just beaten the worse ever team in Prem history (FACT) 2-1 at home.
    Don't think the fans agree.

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  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    west ham fans have higher expectations they dont tolerate dullards.
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    [cite]Posted By: nolly[/cite]west ham fans have higher expectations .

    And they have every right.
    West Ham have an excellent history, and a reputaion for playing football the right way. I respect their pedigree. The first true accademy has produced some excellent players. It's a shame they have been left behind. I see them as a bigger club than Chelsea. When I were a lad, Chelsea were nothing more than a team of has beens living off a Cup win in 1970.
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,641
    of course the have high expectations,they won the world cup in '66.

    still,it was good to see him putting his faith in the youngsters.i wish we had someone who would.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,880
    [cite]Posted By: Chirpy Red[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: nolly[/cite]west ham fans have higher expectations .

    And they have every right.
    West Ham have an excellent history, and a reputaion for playing football therightway. I respect their pedigree. The first true accademy has produced some excellent players. It's a shame they have been left behind. I see them as a bigger club than Chelsea. When I were a lad, Chelsea were nothing more than a team of has beens living off a Cup win in 1970.

    History, pedigree, academy - my arse. I hate these clichés. If Chelsea were nothing but a club living off a cup win in 1970, surely the same applies to Wham now. What exactly have they achieved in the past 25 years then?
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    edited April 2008
    I was talking about when I was a lad, I DID say that.
    Football, if you have not noticed has changed a bit in the last 15 years. Chelsea would not be part of the elite if it wasn't for Abramovitch, indeed they may well have folded or a least gone down the Leeds route.
    West Ham, when I was a lad, won the FA Cup twice, got to the final of the Cup Winners, and produced some great players.
    Just look around the Prem today. The area they cover have produced some greats which have not necessarily gone to WHU, Adams and Terry to name but two.
    East London and the surround is a hot bed of football, always has been, always will be.
    Like them or not, they DO have a history, and an illustrious one too. "History " goes back more than 25 years
  • Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons here chirpy Chelsea won the league in the 50's & West Ham have never won it. I agree with what you say about east london being a hotbed for youngsters however.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    if only we were 10th in the premiership we can but dream
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,156
    Would you actually bother to attend a game then oohaah?
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    [cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]if only we were 10th in the premiership we can but dream

    The home fans still booed WH off the pitch. Not much different from us.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,365
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  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,641
    derby on 11 points,took 4000 there and were behind their side all the way.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]Would you actually bother to attend a game then oohaah?

    fyi i do attend games and have been a season ticket holder for 23 years
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,365
    morts you beering versus coventry
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    [cite]Posted By: northstandsteve[/cite]morts you beering versus coventry

    yup i'm meeting dev b4 hand not sure where we're drinking but will try to make it to the liberal club and put a face to NSS!
  • MCS
    MCS Posts: 8,404
    oooh aaah get yourself in the lib mate, i will point nss to you.

    btw i agree with chirpys post,although not a major westham liker, they are amuch bigger club than chelski, they'd be nothing if it wasnt for the sneaky russian. westham have a good history, produced many more good youngsters than chelsk, so i agree wholly.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    edited April 2008
    i'll get in there olls..congrats on future baby ginge.. omg we're all very old
  • MCS
    MCS Posts: 8,404
    cheers oooh aaaah

    thanks, and btw too old, speak for yourself!! haha, i am riscardos age!
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,880
    [cite]Posted By: vancouveraddick[/cite]Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons here chirpy Chelsea won the league in the 50's & West Ham have never won it. I agree with what you say about east london being a hotbed for youngsters however.

    Exactly what I was getting at but Chirpy (why the name change btw?) choose instead to be sarcastic in his reply. When you were a lad Chirpy the fact even then was that Chelsea had won a League Championship and West Ham hadn't. In fact the stats would have looked like this:

    LEAGUE CHAMPIONS

    Chelsea: 1954-55
    West Ham: Never

    CHARITY/COMMUNITY SHIELD WINNERS

    Chelsea: 1955
    West Ham: 1964

    F.A. CUP WINNERS

    Chelsea: 1970
    West Ham: 1964, 1975, 1980

    LEAGUE CUP WINNERS

    Chelsea: 1965
    West Ham: Never

    Not really much difference between the two clubs - depends how much you value a League Championship v cup wins.
    I think regarding history the two were (when you were a kid) about the same.
  • Mortain
    Mortain Posts: 391
    [cite]Posted By: ThreadKiller[/cite]derby on 11 points,took 4000 there and were behind their side all the way.

    Got to put you right on that mate, they probably had about 1500 there on saturday (the biggest allocation we offer is 2900 to away fans so not sure where 4k came from). But I was impressed with them considering their position.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,120
    Booooooooooooo

    ;-)