Mr Fox
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Yes only Henderson. I don't think many people read the opening remarks in this thread. It's not about Fox's performance yesterday either.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Only Henderson, its been pointed out in the thread.BR3red said:
Totally agree, Hendo just planted on the line with the ball 5 yards from him. Commit yourself, punch it, catch it, don't just stand there and pick the ball up after it is in the net. Fox had a good game and some of the interplay with Berdich 1st half was brilliant.charlton_carl said:Henderson got a clap? Maybe you could suggest he comes for a corner next time it lands five yards from him. fox was ok, going forward his crossing left a lot to be desired
Fox, Solly and Harriet made the effort to come over looking utterly dejected.
How many Johnny foreigners or loanees came over????2 -
My kids does, badly. Especially my daughter. Must be all the shit food we feed her.oohaahmortimer said:Most parents I know think their own kids shit don't stink
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So you can say 100% you weren't the middle age guy who was calling Solly,Fox and Harriot all the cun#s under the sun when the 3 of them tried to clap the fans. This Guy went Ape Shit and was frothing at the mouth.alan dugdale said:
I was upset that my horses lost but didn't take it out on a random Charlton fanGodstone said:Mr Fox was no doubt upset at Morgan's treatment before today's match, what dad could blame him?
Fox senior goes to every game, home and away and it may have been the hair that breaks the camels back, when you hear dogs abuse most games.
I would get in a ruck every game if that happened to my son.
The irony was Fox, Harriott and Solly were 3 players who had good 1st halves.
The free kick by Morgan should only be seen at Twickenham.
Well that was 3 points for sure.0 -
I was answering your question about how many johnny foreigners came over.alan dugdale said:
Yes only Henderson. I don't think many people read the opening remarks in this thread. It's not about Fox's performance yesterday either.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Only Henderson, its been pointed out in the thread.BR3red said:
Totally agree, Hendo just planted on the line with the ball 5 yards from him. Commit yourself, punch it, catch it, don't just stand there and pick the ball up after it is in the net. Fox had a good game and some of the interplay with Berdich 1st half was brilliant.charlton_carl said:Henderson got a clap? Maybe you could suggest he comes for a corner next time it lands five yards from him. fox was ok, going forward his crossing left a lot to be desired
Fox, Solly and Harriet made the effort to come over looking utterly dejected.
How many Johnny foreigners or loanees came over????0 -
I've never asked that question ?!!C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
I was answering your question about how many johnny foreigners came over.alan dugdale said:
Yes only Henderson. I don't think many people read the opening remarks in this thread. It's not about Fox's performance yesterday either.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Only Henderson, its been pointed out in the thread.BR3red said:
Totally agree, Hendo just planted on the line with the ball 5 yards from him. Commit yourself, punch it, catch it, don't just stand there and pick the ball up after it is in the net. Fox had a good game and some of the interplay with Berdich 1st half was brilliant.charlton_carl said:Henderson got a clap? Maybe you could suggest he comes for a corner next time it lands five yards from him. fox was ok, going forward his crossing left a lot to be desired
Fox, Solly and Harriet made the effort to come over looking utterly dejected.
How many Johnny foreigners or loanees came over????0 -
I can safely say I wasn't frothing at the mouth. Nor middle aged !soapboxsam said:
So you can say 100% you weren't the middle age guy who was calling Solly,Fox and Harriot all the cun#s under the sun when the 3 of them tried to clap the fans. This Guy went Ape Shit and was frothing at the mouth.alan dugdale said:
I was upset that my horses lost but didn't take it out on a random Charlton fanGodstone said:Mr Fox was no doubt upset at Morgan's treatment before today's match, what dad could blame him?
Fox senior goes to every game, home and away and it may have been the hair that breaks the camels back, when you hear dogs abuse most games.
I would get in a ruck every game if that happened to my son.
The irony was Fox, Harriott and Solly were 3 players who had good 1st halves.
The free kick by Morgan should only be seen at Twickenham.
Well that was 3 points for sure.0 -
If I was his old man this would've happened months ago in the nth upper1
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Morgan Fox probably has the most threads created about him than any other player.1
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He tried the Ronaldo / Bale technique and even he has a few that end up in row Z. To be fair it's not worse than JBG who consistently hits the wall. Fair play to Fox for having the balls to have a go.soapboxsam said:
So you can say 100% you weren't the middle age guy who was calling Solly,Fox and Harriot all the cun#s under the sun when the 3 of them tried to clap the fans. This Guy went Ape Shit and was frothing at the mouth.alan dugdale said:
I was upset that my horses lost but didn't take it out on a random Charlton fanGodstone said:Mr Fox was no doubt upset at Morgan's treatment before today's match, what dad could blame him?
Fox senior goes to every game, home and away and it may have been the hair that breaks the camels back, when you hear dogs abuse most games.
I would get in a ruck every game if that happened to my son.
The irony was Fox, Harriott and Solly were 3 players who had good 1st halves.
The free kick by Morgan should only be seen at Twickenham.
Well that was 3 points for sure.1 -
Considering we have a free kick 'expert' in JBG who hasn't threatened from one of a number of decent free kick opportunities in the past few games, fair play to Fox for having a go.
I'm one of his highest critics as I do not feel he is good enough at the moment but I will say he has a bit of character about him.2 -
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Your right but Before the Free kick, Fox was having a decent game.jamescafc said:
He tried the Ronaldo / Bale technique and even he has a few that end up in row Z. To be fair it's not worse than JBG who consistently hits the wall. Fair play to Fox for having the balls to have a go.soapboxsam said:
So you can say 100% you weren't the middle age guy who was calling Solly,Fox and Harriot all the cun#s under the sun when the 3 of them tried to clap the fans. This Guy went Ape Shit and was frothing at the mouth.alan dugdale said:
I was upset that my horses lost but didn't take it out on a random Charlton fanGodstone said:Mr Fox was no doubt upset at Morgan's treatment before today's match, what dad could blame him?
Fox senior goes to every game, home and away and it may have been the hair that breaks the camels back, when you hear dogs abuse most games.
I would get in a ruck every game if that happened to my son.
The irony was Fox, Harriott and Solly were 3 players who had good 1st halves.
The free kick by Morgan should only be seen at Twickenham.
Well that was 3 points for sure.
I was more surprised that JBG let him take it. why are Johann's free kicks so poor this season compared to last ?
At a professional team, you would stay behind in the a/noon to make sure that you have it off pat, i guess that's the difference between winners and losers.
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Fair play but then you quoted me originally for no reason.alan dugdale said:
I've never asked that question ?!!C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
I was answering your question about how many johnny foreigners came over.alan dugdale said:
Yes only Henderson. I don't think many people read the opening remarks in this thread. It's not about Fox's performance yesterday either.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Only Henderson, its been pointed out in the thread.BR3red said:
Totally agree, Hendo just planted on the line with the ball 5 yards from him. Commit yourself, punch it, catch it, don't just stand there and pick the ball up after it is in the net. Fox had a good game and some of the interplay with Berdich 1st half was brilliant.charlton_carl said:Henderson got a clap? Maybe you could suggest he comes for a corner next time it lands five yards from him. fox was ok, going forward his crossing left a lot to be desired
Fox, Solly and Harriet made the effort to come over looking utterly dejected.
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Apologies !C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Fair play but then you quoted me originally for no reason.alan dugdale said:
I've never asked that question ?!!C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
I was answering your question about how many johnny foreigners came over.alan dugdale said:
Yes only Henderson. I don't think many people read the opening remarks in this thread. It's not about Fox's performance yesterday either.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Only Henderson, its been pointed out in the thread.BR3red said:
Totally agree, Hendo just planted on the line with the ball 5 yards from him. Commit yourself, punch it, catch it, don't just stand there and pick the ball up after it is in the net. Fox had a good game and some of the interplay with Berdich 1st half was brilliant.charlton_carl said:Henderson got a clap? Maybe you could suggest he comes for a corner next time it lands five yards from him. fox was ok, going forward his crossing left a lot to be desired
Fox, Solly and Harriet made the effort to come over looking utterly dejected.
How many Johnny foreigners or loanees came over????0 -
You're right, Fox had a particularly decent first half to be fair and also shows passion. The sad thing is, there are now so many who bizarrely want him to fail so they can give him dog's abuse, that when he does do well they actually don't have the balls to admit it. Surrounded by them yesterday!!! One fella has even marked him as a 1 in the players post-match marks!!! 1, do me a favour!!! As tough as some people find it (personal pride etc), some really need to start watching the players' performances, match by match, objectively rather than subjectively.soapboxsam said:
Your right but Before the Free kick, Fox was having a decent game.jamescafc said:
He tried the Ronaldo / Bale technique and even he has a few that end up in row Z. To be fair it's not worse than JBG who consistently hits the wall. Fair play to Fox for having the balls to have a go.soapboxsam said:
So you can say 100% you weren't the middle age guy who was calling Solly,Fox and Harriot all the cun#s under the sun when the 3 of them tried to clap the fans. This Guy went Ape Shit and was frothing at the mouth.alan dugdale said:
I was upset that my horses lost but didn't take it out on a random Charlton fanGodstone said:Mr Fox was no doubt upset at Morgan's treatment before today's match, what dad could blame him?
Fox senior goes to every game, home and away and it may have been the hair that breaks the camels back, when you hear dogs abuse most games.
I would get in a ruck every game if that happened to my son.
The irony was Fox, Harriott and Solly were 3 players who had good 1st halves.
The free kick by Morgan should only be seen at Twickenham.
Well that was 3 points for sure.
I was more surprised that JBG let him take it. why are Johann's free kicks so poor this season compared to last ?
At a professional team, you would stay behind in the a/noon to make sure that you have it off pat, i guess that's the difference between winners and losers.7 -
That's probably one of the key things, having been to Sparrows Lane a fair few times this season, and a coach of mine going most weeks, one thing we spoke about was not a single player goes out after training has finished to work on aspects of their game.soapboxsam said:At a professional team, you would stay behind in the a/noon to make sure that you have it off pat, i guess that's the difference between winners and losers.
Not one is remotely interested in developing their game to become better, that's the difference sometimes. It seems they're happy to pick up their wages and go home, they know the fate of this season, they know most will not be here next season, but no one stays behind to work on their own game, that's what is sad.
I admit I've gave Fox plenty of abuse before, mainly due to his lack of quality and how he manages to be playing every week. But that's not his fault, he may be a lot better in league one, and he doesn't pick the team, cause Roland does that.
As said you can't fault his commitment and never hides, but unfortunately like many of our players, he isn't good enough and I don't believe he ever will be for the championship.0 -
A mixture of two things: The first, the club sold him a dream of promotion at the start of the season and he is rightly peed off. The second, Euro 2016.soapboxsam said:
Your right but Before the Free kick, Fox was having a decent game.jamescafc said:
He tried the Ronaldo / Bale technique and even he has a few that end up in row Z. To be fair it's not worse than JBG who consistently hits the wall. Fair play to Fox for having the balls to have a go.soapboxsam said:
So you can say 100% you weren't the middle age guy who was calling Solly,Fox and Harriot all the cun#s under the sun when the 3 of them tried to clap the fans. This Guy went Ape Shit and was frothing at the mouth.alan dugdale said:
I was upset that my horses lost but didn't take it out on a random Charlton fanGodstone said:Mr Fox was no doubt upset at Morgan's treatment before today's match, what dad could blame him?
Fox senior goes to every game, home and away and it may have been the hair that breaks the camels back, when you hear dogs abuse most games.
I would get in a ruck every game if that happened to my son.
The irony was Fox, Harriott and Solly were 3 players who had good 1st halves.
The free kick by Morgan should only be seen at Twickenham.
Well that was 3 points for sure.
I was more surprised that JBG let him take it. why are Johann's free kicks so poor this season compared to last ?
At a professional team, you would stay behind in the a/noon to make sure that you have it off pat, i guess that's the difference between winners and losers.1 -
The father should not be so sensitive and realise football is an emotional game, whilst remembering he is not a favourite of ours.
However, if he'd overheard someone coating his boy in a different environment I would get upset in his shoes.
As an aside, his father works in the building game so he should be used to industrial language!1 -
Mention in The Metro this morning of the players being booed etc.0
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If I was Morgan Fox's Dad I would be angry with the crap he has to put up with. I don't think he is good enough for the Championship but I think booing him or any other player is counterproductive.5
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I will not change my view without evidence to the contrary that Fox is simply not up to this level. However, I will acknowledge that he is one of the very few in a red shirt who appears to give a tuppenny fuck at the moment and for that at least I salute him.1
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M Fox does get dogs abuse, Ive given him pelters in the past.
However I think he is a championship level player, but lacks consistency.
I am very mindful of the enigma that is Simon Francis, lets be honest he was one of the worst players ever to play for us, but look at him now, PL player (deservedly) and a class act.
I reckon in the case of both players that the are confidence footballers, take way their confidence and they melt quicker than Millwall v Man U in the cup final.
Also M Fox got jeered when he was subbed two matches ago at the Valley, and I found that inexcusable by some of our so called supporters.
Finally, I am there as a supporter of our club, I will cheer and if the team play below par I will give them pelters.
I would suggest to any parent/relative of a player that if you dont want to hear negative criticism then dont go to the game, 'cos if I was confronted by a family member for giving my opinion after I had just paid some of their little do no wrongs wages, then they can do one.
Fair play to the OP for keeping his cool.7 -
Whilst Fox's dad is no doubt in the wrong for starting an argument, I don't think you can blame him too much for being protective unless he went OTT. Morgan Fox is still young and clearly gives it his all and cares... he's just not very good.
It would be hard hearing his son get that much stick from his our own fans, I'd be pretty bitter about it - and even worse if it's not far from the truth (although if he's like the majority of parents he won't see that!).0 -
I actually really like fox, never puts any less than 100% in and is more than good enough to play for us. Still very young remember especially in defence you get found out quite easily. There's no denying that he makes a few clangers but that's to be expected and is lamented 10x more by fans because of the reputation he has.
As for the free kick it might not have been the best call at the time but I've seen him practising free kicks a few times in the past, I remember at Portsmouth away (pre-season) in the warm up towards the end he hit a few and they were crackers. Has a very strange technique which I'm guessing he's nicked from Bale to an extent, have a lot of respect to him for having a go knowing that failure would result in abuse. Keep off his back and let him play, much better than some of the other dross we have.2 -
No, he's lamented for woeful distribution and lack of defensive nous.cafc_harry said:I actually really like fox, never puts any less than 100% in and is more than good enough to play for us. Still very young remember especially in defence you get found out quite easily. There's no denying that he makes a few clangers but that's to be expected and is lamented 10x more by fans because of the reputation he has.
As for the free kick it might not have been the best call at the time but I've seen him practising free kicks a few times in the past, I remember at Portsmouth away (pre-season) in the warm up towards the end he hit a few and they were crackers. Has a very strange technique which I'm guessing he's nicked from Bale to an extent, have a lot of respect to him for having a go knowing that failure would result in abuse. Keep off his back and let him play, much better than some of the other dross we have.
That said, no players should be booed during a match and he does, without doubt, try his best in every game.0 -
So we should all think highly of him because he hit a few hefty warm up shots down at Pompey last pre-season?cafc_harry said:I actually really like fox, never puts any less than 100% in and is more than good enough to play for us. Still very young remember especially in defence you get found out quite easily. There's no denying that he makes a few clangers but that's to be expected and is lamented 10x more by fans because of the reputation he has.
As for the free kick it might not have been the best call at the time but I've seen him practising free kicks a few times in the past, I remember at Portsmouth away (pre-season) in the warm up towards the end he hit a few and they were crackers. Has a very strange technique which I'm guessing he's nicked from Bale to an extent, have a lot of respect to him for having a go knowing that failure would result in abuse. Keep off his back and let him play, much better than some of the other dross we have.
Give over.
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Where did I say that mate? Fuck off.Jarman said:
So we should all think highly of him because he hit a few hefty warm up shots down at Pompey last pre-season?cafc_harry said:I actually really like fox, never puts any less than 100% in and is more than good enough to play for us. Still very young remember especially in defence you get found out quite easily. There's no denying that he makes a few clangers but that's to be expected and is lamented 10x more by fans because of the reputation he has.
As for the free kick it might not have been the best call at the time but I've seen him practising free kicks a few times in the past, I remember at Portsmouth away (pre-season) in the warm up towards the end he hit a few and they were crackers. Has a very strange technique which I'm guessing he's nicked from Bale to an extent, have a lot of respect to him for having a go knowing that failure would result in abuse. Keep off his back and let him play, much better than some of the other dross we have.
Give over.6 -
I saw Morgan meet his family outside the ground. They hugged, said hello and so on. Then Morgan said something like "let's not stand around here..."
I don't abuse players, ever. Not since a young version of me joined in the Kim Grant booing. And when I saw him, looking down and sad, with his loved ones looking equally sad, I had nothing but pure sympathy for him. In that moment it felt heartbreaking. The abuse he gets is so unwarranted that it barely even requires me to say it.
I think he's out of his depth, sure, but we should be helping him improve. Not venting our spleens at him for literally no good reason. It must be so hard for his dad to deal with too, I'm not surprised he's given some back.16 -
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Agree with all this Green- apart from Fox being a Champ footballer. He is league 1 at best and nothing I've seen has changed that.Greenie said:M Fox does get dogs abuse, Ive given him pelters in the past.
However I think he is a championship level player, but lacks consistency.
I am very mindful of the enigma that is Simon Francis, lets be honest he was one of the worst players ever to play for us, but look at him now, PL player (deservedly) and a class act.
I reckon in the case of both players that the are confidence footballers, take way their confidence and they melt quicker than Millwall v Man U in the cup final.
Also M Fox got jeered when he was subbed two matches ago at the Valley, and I found that inexcusable by some of our so called supporters.
Finally, I am there as a supporter of our club, I will cheer and if the team play below par I will give them pelters.
I would suggest to any parent/relative of a player that if you dont want to hear negative criticism then dont go to the game, 'cos if I was confronted by a family member for giving my opinion after I had just paid some of their little do no wrongs wages, then they can do one.
Fair play to the OP for keeping his cool.1 -
Fair play BB, I said the same about Fox last season, but I also said the same about Simon Francis, so that experience has taught me that sometimes I get it wrong and am not always right about a player.Big_Bob said:A lot of the people
Agree with all this Green- apart from Fox being a Champ footballer. He is league 1 at best and nothing I've seen has changed that.Greenie said:M Fox does get dogs abuse, Ive given him pelters in the past.
However I think he is a championship level player, but lacks consistency.
I am very mindful of the enigma that is Simon Francis, lets be honest he was one of the worst players ever to play for us, but look at him now, PL player (deservedly) and a class act.
I reckon in the case of both players that the are confidence footballers, take way their confidence and they melt quicker than Millwall v Man U in the cup final.
Also M Fox got jeered when he was subbed two matches ago at the Valley, and I found that inexcusable by some of our so called supporters.
Finally, I am there as a supporter of our club, I will cheer and if the team play below par I will give them pelters.
I would suggest to any parent/relative of a player that if you dont want to hear negative criticism then dont go to the game, 'cos if I was confronted by a family member for giving my opinion after I had just paid some of their little do no wrongs wages, then they can do one.
Fair play to the OP for keeping his cool.
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Right to reply?
Being a player’s parent, I always wonder to myself if I have a right to be on a fans forum? Being a supporter of my lad and this club, I like any other fan will trawl the media and read the various pre and post match news reports, blogs and forum comments.
However, being in what I consider to be a very lucky and privileged position of player’s parent, I consciously take a backward stance away from commenting on any thread …most of the time!! Why, when most of the time I probably have a more informed opinion and viewpoint than some of the posters in this forum based purely on stats information I may see, or something I may hear about?.... The answer is quite simple, how his career develops can only be on his personal performance, merit and conduct both on and off the pitch and I have absolutely nothing to do with this apart from 100% support and to this end I am fiercely proud of my son’s mind-set in these matters and his personal approach to his career on the pitch, at the training ground and the additional personal work he puts in outside of these areas to improve his game.
And so to the surprise, for some reason I suddenly have my own dubious thread on a fans forum, one which I never instigated nor even considered yet I find myself the topic of comments and ‘opinions’ when in all honesty this club and it’s fanbase has far more interesting and important matters to debate than a Stupid Old Cunt...we will get to this in a minute...Fucking Old...the cheek of it !!
So exercising my right to reply and put matters straight on the topic of the thread created by Mr Dugdale
As we all know at the end of the game most of the players went straight down the tunnel, however, 3 of them dug deep into their characters and came over to thank the fans Chris Solly, my boy Morgan and Callum Harriott 3 of the players who in ‘my opinion’ at least put a shift in for the 90 minutes on Saturday. Emotions were ‘high to say the least and from what I remember –based on my stupid oldness ☺ Mr D stepped into the aisle below me and started to gesture at them and it wasn’t a friendly wave ☺ and called them all cunts and explaining quite loudly where they should go. Now this is his ‘opinion’ and he is quite entitled to it.
I was also stood in the aisle a couple of steps up behind him and I felt I wanted to show my support as in my opinion despite the negative result these 3 lads had actually put a shift in, contributed most of the decent football to the game and so I was quite loud and vocal as I cheered well done boys, well done Foxy, Chris Callum etc
Mr D and his pal turned to come up the steps to leave and at this point Mr D enquired as to what I was looking at?
I replied ‘nothing’
He asked me to get out of his way and as I was stood to the side I replied “I’m not in your way I’m just clapping my boy”
His pal interrupted with “there is no need for this”and I agreed
Mr D carried on up the stairs calling me a ‘Stupid Old Cunt ‘ as he went past and I responded with ‘Fuck Off,
I felt this was a fair response to that sort of name calling ☺
end of handbags incident between two passionate fans with different opinions.
Who knows on another day with a better result Mr D and I might and probably would be of the same positive ‘opinion’ about the club and the team and I really hope this is sooner rather than later!!
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