The Season Ticket Pledge

Scared me there...

In Ireland, the "Pledge" is a commitment by Catholics to never drink alcohol (joining the Pioneer Total Abstinence Association), and I have a sneaking suspicion that alcohol is the only thing fans can rely on this season.

guinnessaddick said:

NornIrishAddick said:

Scared me there...

In Ireland, the "Pledge" is a commitment by Catholics to never drink alcohol (joining the Pioneer Total Abstinence Association), and I have a sneaking suspicion that alcohol is the only thing fans can rely on this season.

My nan took the pledge and wouldn't go out without her badge.

Bet she had a gold one....

cafcdave123 said:

do we all have to stand up and say it at meetings?

i promise, to do my duty to god and to the queen
to help other addicks
to abstain from buying tickets
and to keep the C.A.R.D law

And I'll dib dib dib I'll dob dob dob

A Season Ticket Trust fund, in the mould of what was mooted at Rangers, could be a real potential next step.

Here's the statement from Dave King (who is now in charge) at the time:

"I have hitherto urged restraint in dealing with the board, however due to this extreme act of bad faith I believe that it is vital that fans now withhold season ticket money from this board and similarly refuse to support the club by way of the purchase of replica kit or any other retail product."

The South Africa-based ex-patriot businessman added: "An announcement will shortly be made providing details of a bank account that season ticket money can be paid into as an interim measure. The specific terms and conditions of this account will be made available to fans, including the basis on which funds will be advanced to the club and the basis on which funds will be returned to fans. As a minimum, the board must provide the club property as security against the season ticket money.

"I recognise that fans will have anxiety about 'betraying' the club and the risk of loss of a cherished seat at Ibrox. However, the time has come when the trade-off is a potential loss of a seat against the loss of the club. That would be the real betrayal. This board has lost its right to be dealt with on a good faith basis."

guinnessaddick said:

NornIrishAddick said:

Scared me there...

In Ireland, the "Pledge" is a commitment by Catholics to never drink alcohol (joining the Pioneer Total Abstinence Association), and I have a sneaking suspicion that alcohol is the only thing fans can rely on this season.

My nan took the pledge and wouldn't go out without her badge.

There was an Irish guy in my local and every Sunday at 3 o'clock would order 3 pints of Guinness and sip from each one in turn. When we asked him why, he said he and his brothers agreed to do that, wherever they were in the world, at that time of day and buy a pint for each of them so that they would in effect be having a drink with each other.

One Sunday he came in and only ordered two pints - so someone went over and said sorry for your loss as he had only ordered two pints. He turned around and said my brothers are fine, it's me, I have taken the pledge and given up drinking.

Rob62 said:

A Season Ticket Trust fund, in the mould of what was mooted at Rangers, could be a real potential next step.

Here's the statement from Dave King (who is now in charge) at the time:

"I have hitherto urged restraint in dealing with the board, however due to this extreme act of bad faith I believe that it is vital that fans now withhold season ticket money from this board and similarly refuse to support the club by way of the purchase of replica kit or any other retail product."

The South Africa-based ex-patriot businessman added: "An announcement will shortly be made providing details of a bank account that season ticket money can be paid into as an interim measure. The specific terms and conditions of this account will be made available to fans, including the basis on which funds will be advanced to the club and the basis on which funds will be returned to fans. As a minimum, the board must provide the club property as security against the season ticket money.

"I recognise that fans will have anxiety about 'betraying' the club and the risk of loss of a cherished seat at Ibrox. However, the time has come when the trade-off is a potential loss of a seat against the loss of the club. That would be the real betrayal. This board has lost its right to be dealt with on a good faith basis."

So many laws, so little expert legal advice.

Setting aside that the statement surely should have said expatriate rather than ex-patriot (quite amusing that one!), there are just so many legal pitfalls that would need competent legal input just to be on the safe side. Who pays for that advice?

For example is what is proposed really a trust at all? Is paying away the money on someone else's behalf the same as returning it to the individual and therefore in breach of the Financial Services and Markets Act and it's various statutory instruments. Or is it on-lending? What happens to any interest earned while the funds are being held? Etc, etc, etc.

That's got the esoteric stuff out of the way.

On a more humdrum level - what is the point?

People, in the main (those who love their bookmakers look away now), are more than capable of looking after their own money. So why give it to someone else to look after on their behalf? Second, some (I don't know what percentage) don't use their own funds to buy a season ticket but either the club's scheme or a credit card. Presumably, they would not be in a position to participate any way?

andynelson said:

I'll just give him my bank details, that would be easier.

Indeed. Is Dave King really Dave King? Is he actually in South Africa or is it really Nigeria?

NornIrishAddick said:

Scared me there...

In Ireland, the "Pledge" is a commitment by Catholics to never drink alcohol (joining the Pioneer Total Abstinence Association), and I have a sneaking suspicion that alcohol is the only thing fans can rely on this season.

Scared you???, it scared me more, I thought they were going suggest we help with the polishing around the house