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Charlton v MK Dons 2016 post-match views

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  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,918
    a must win game.

    a pathetic TEAM performance.

    honestly thought Harriot was poor in the 1st half, however he started the 2nd half completely differently and looked a threat, our only threat. can't have that, let's substitute him and leave Makienok on.

    where do you start with Makienok's performance...hopeless.

    criminal only bringing Lookman on with 8 left, MK were shit scared of him.

    Riga-0 points tonight. piss poor substitutions. did he grasp the importance of that game because it certainly didn't seem to be instilled in the team.

    we're down.

    the Belgians must be ousted as soon as is humanly possible.
  • 3G
    3G Posts: 737
    Post match views...

    1) taking Harriott off when he was clearly our.biggest threat going forward is one of the stupidest decisions I've seen. Riga has lost me.

    2) regardless of how badly a Charlton player does on the pitch, cheering when he gets substituted is awful. Those of you that sarcastically jeered Makienok can fuck off. It's poisonous, you aren't supporting the team and you're better off staying away.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700

    nothing from @colin1961.....well there's a fucking surprise!!

    He has just defended Mak on the Simon Mak thread
    @LargeAddick what was The Voice saying mate?
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,191
    How Gudmundson avoids any critics I will never know. I watched him for a lot of the game today, as he is potentially our most creative player. He just saunters about, casually jogging, going through the motions. I know most of the others seem that way too but he is supposed to be one of the better players in the league. Didn't track back, didn't close anyone down. I cannot remember anything remotely useful that he done for the whole 90 minutes
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956

    nothing from @colin1961.....well there's a fucking surprise!!

    He has just defended Mak on the Simon Mak thread
    @LargeAddick what was The Voice saying mate?
    I think you have mis-quoted using me Red
  • RugbyAddick
    RugbyAddick Posts: 2,086
    Typing without reading so may be echoing others.

    Today was disappointment from the offset and today more or less sums up our season. Here's a list of what I found wrong with today.
    I will start with the fact Sanogo didn't start. He scored a hat trick and then was influential last time out against Brentford. You have to start a player like that. If he's fit enough to be on the bench then he should be fit enough to start in my opinion.
    The lack of passion throughout the team. We were playing a team who are down there scrapping with us. We let them [try to] play football and were absoutely awful. The likes of Poyet just didn't look interested.
    Our most creative player, Harriott was taken off when he wasn't injured. He was the only player to threat the MK goal. Everything was negative and sidewards. There were other players to take off instead of CH. For example, take Fox off, move Suk-Young to LB and play 4-4-2. It is not hard... this sets me up for my next point...

    Why the f*ck are we playing with one striker at home against a team who we NEEDED to beat? It is ridiculous and they're negative tactics.

    Rotherham won. Middlesbrough are due a win.

    The fact MK Dons deserved three points is ridiculous. They wanted it more and that's so so so frustrating.

    7 points adrift with a few difficult games coming up. I cannot see a way back from this.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    It seems to me my rallying cry at the start of the match thread for the players to be proud to wear the Red Shirt was not transmitted onto the pitch...How I wish I could give the team talk, I would talk about my fight against heart disease, and how it takes bollocks to fight back, and that's what they should be thinking....the lot of them (Lookie, Cuz and Harry excepted) seem spineless.
    How do I get to speak to them...anyone know?
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Have to agree, bags of effort but ran in to too man blind alleys and little came from the amount of possession he enjoyed. I for one will not be watching 3rd tier football, or any football, while these people are running the club. Can't believe what is happening to my club so very very sad.

    I'm struggling to see why people are saying Callum was our best player. He certainly tried, but from where the bairn and I were sitting, far too often he made the wrong decision, or made no decision at all, and lost the ball.

  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 5,001
    "Charlton have set a new club record for most home league games without a win – 10 (D6 L4) #cafc"

    How's that for a match day experience? Bastards.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,746

    nothing from @colin1961.....well there's a fucking surprise!!

    He has just defended Mak on the Simon Mak thread
    @LargeAddick what was The Voice saying mate?


    Basically that Yann never wanted to leave and was effectively forced out. Then, a deal was in place for him to return in January but Fraeye was sacked and RD pulled the plug at the last minute.

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  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,710
    What chance do we have when the spine of the team is Fanni, Poyet and Mak. If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.

    Riga tonight proved he hasn't got a clue just like Pinnochio, Murray and Douchebag.

    People in this club are stealing a living good luck with season ticket sales!
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,242

    Just home and still baffled by the starting 11, tactics, formation and substitutions.

    A must win game and out first attempt on target is fifteen mins into the second half. Seems we started with a back three and went to a back four fairly quickly with JBG joining Makienok up
    top.

    Two poor teams who produced football of below mediocre quality. MK clearly accepted a draw and began to adopt the nightly tactics of kicking away the ball, arguing, giving free kicks away whenever we looked like attacking.

    Harriot comes off for Sanogo. Our most dangerous player removed. Bergdich for Poyet shortly after. So a winger off for a forward and then a central midfielder off for a winger. Riga then puts our left wing back on the right of midfield.

    Lookman on after 82 and there followed our most dangerous period of play. In the time he was on he was fouled more times than any other player. He put in better deliveries than JBG has recently and scared the life out of them.

    Didn't see what Sanogo did but he has let us down badly. Means that Mak will now be playing for the next three games.

    In terms of players Fanni looks a little off the pace. Tex, Motta and Yun clearly have quality. Cousins his usual driving self. Harriot was able to make the correct decision most of the time. Pope had to sort his kicking out and develop a sense of urgency.

    We are down and if that is how we approach must win games then we deserve to be. If ever proof was needed that those at the top don't give a shit about relegation then this provided it in bucket loads.

    Depressing.

    That's the game I saw too. Excellent summary @sirjohnhumphrey. I found that all too depressing tonight. Yet another dreadful game against a horrible cheating limited side in a two thirds empty stadium watching the slow lingering death of our club. The season ticket decision just gets easier and easier. Regardless of all our background shenanigans, at 1945 there was a football match to watch. And it was absolutely f******g woeful entertainment. Just not interested any more. Riga is just another network stooge. Clueless. That was our last chance saloon game and we barely broke sweat. Bonkers team selection. The few of our players that I actually give a stuff about are not good enough and the rest - the majority - just f**k off the lot of you. Don't know if I can be arsed to go again this season so that may have been my farewell. Shame on you Roland and Katrien. Please just go and procreate elsewhere. Soon.
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    edited March 2016
    Tonight's team decisions just show just how much having Dyer and Matthew around last time was the reason we stayed up in Riga's first time with us!!! PS and having better players!!!
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700

    nothing from @colin1961.....well there's a fucking surprise!!

    He has just defended Mak on the Simon Mak thread
    @LargeAddick what was The Voice saying mate?


    Basically that Yann never wanted to leave and was effectively forced out. Then, a deal was in place for him to return in January but Fraeye was sacked and RD pulled the plug at the last minute.
    Good god what a chuffing shambles.....so big mac instead of Yann..joke, just a joke!!! Roland has to go, he is killing the club, if he stays RIP CAFC!
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  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Lookman must start games in future. We only looked a threat when he came on, as for that performance from Mak words really do fail me. Can't remember the last time there was no added time at the end of the first half.
  • Lookman must start games in future. We only looked a threat when he came on, as for that performance from Mak words really do fail me. Can't remember the last time there was no added time at the end of the first half.

    I fear the future for Lookman is until May & he'll be gone in the summer
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    So in two games we've failed to score against MKD this season.

    Taking Harriott off was a ridiculous decision, yes he made mistakes, but he was the one midfielder who at least gave their defence something to think about, who was able to do something different. Once he went off out attacking play got worse, something only rectified when Lookman came on.

    A very poor performance and game. JBG's dead ball kicks are beyond a joke now, he really needs to get on the training ground tomorrow and not leave it until he's started hitting some decent corners, even if it takes all night.
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    vff said:

    I'm baffled by Riga's selection for starting XI and dismayed by his substitution of Harriot. Makienok was next to useless, yet he plays the whole game. Sanogo and Lookman are on the bench. Why? That aside, we get another duff performance which proves, to my mind, that this team isn't good enough to remain in this division. For the umpteenth time this season, I make mental comparisons with the battling teams that Lennie Lawrence put out. When the chips were down, his players delivered. This lot don't and probably can't. It has the stamp of Management Ineptitude all over it.
    Sunday afternoon will be interesting. If the players can't provide decent entertainment, we'll have to make our own.

    @Anna_Kissed I am struggling to see why I should attend another likely car crash performance on Sunday against Middlesborough. Is the best protest an empty ground ?
    Not sure what you mean, vff. People will protest as they see fit. Some will attend the game, some won't. Some attendees will sit quietly. Some won't sit and will be anything but quiet. Our club has been ruined and many Addicks will make their voice heard on Sunday afternoon.
    One o in Middlesbrough.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700

    Lookman must start games in future. We only looked a threat when he came on, as for that performance from Mak words really do fail me. Can't remember the last time there was only 1 shot on target from the homeside time at the end of the game.

    Fixed it for you


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  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,467
    I know Bergdich isn't Championship standard but he did put in 2 decent balls
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    edited March 2016
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  • I thought it could not get any worse......................wrong!!!!
    Preston was the poorest display I have seen since 1964, equalled tonight.
    Poyet? What has happened to him??? - Poor to say the least..........
    Big Mak, runs around sticking his leg out with little purpose.
    Harriott shows enterprise to go past players and gets taken off!!!
    Sanago held back until 60 mins and then let loose, but I didn't see what he did to get sent off so goodbye for next three games.
    Our own keeper wasted so much time and showed no urgency as though he thought a point would do...........
    Obviously Lookman's pace scared the crap out of them but too little too late
    JBG worse game for a while and failed to get the ball past the first defender for many corners
    Positives to take - none as we dint have one shot on target and their keeper didn't need a shower after the game.
    Hand me a knife please.........my mate has a banner for 'Boro on Sunday but I fear there will be nobody there to see it
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,052
    Wow, no idea where to start. Excuse the bullet points but they're the only way my thoughts will have any coherence, if not style and structure.

    - Two match unbeaten run! (lol) But draws are of course nowhere near enough.
    - Both us and MK Dons were, overall, fucking shite. No attacking impetus from either lot; both defences looked shaky at best.

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    Player views individually:

    - Pope: average. Was barely tested. Distribution is suspect; made a good save though from Rob Hall
    - Fanni: makes me shit myself whenever he gets the ball. Thought he would do something apoplectically bad today but thankfully he didn't. Liability/clear goalscoring opportunity waiting to happen. Did one or two not-that-shit things though.
    - Teixeira: the most average performance I think I'll ever witness. Did nothing while having had nothing to do, pretty much.
    - Fox: I hate saying it as he's one of our own, but he's not a great footballer and made the wrong decision a few times. Made up for it with a crucial block and a couple of authoritative tackles.
    - Yun: energetic, hard-working, and did a couple of decent things. Not much of an end product though. Bit suspect defensively.
    - Motta: some fancy tricks here and there, decent passing. HOWEVER: if he ever lost the ball up the pitch, he left the RH side of the defence wide open time and time again. Never comfortable with that especially as JBG and Harriott don't exactly track back.
    - Poyet: poor. Can pass it, but he's the type of bloke who once he's sat on his however many ks a week will just sit on them. Lazy at school, now he's "made it" he's lazy again.
    - Cousins: our best player. Not that he was anything much above average. Ran a bit, passed a bit, tackled a bit... meh
    - Harriott: taken off as soon as he got into his stride. Abysmal decision from Riga. Tried to be too fancy sometimes but an undoubted attacking threat.
    - JBG: a bit anonymous at times today; lacking in spirit really. Went through the motions.
    - Makienok: fucking abysmal. He has no interest in anything. Didn't know shit was stacked that high. Every time he got it he gave it away, pretty much.

    - Sanogo: absolutely disgraceful and unforgivable at the end. Looked awkward both in terms of clumsiness and for the oppo to handle BUT WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU PLAYING AT YOU UTTER MUG.
    - Bergdich: how glad I was to see us bring on a wife-beater on International Women's Day. He can go. Not really that good at football.
    - Lookman: he felt like he was on loan to us from another dimension he looked that much better. My word. Good luck to him.

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    Team as a whole:

    - Tactically, I think our main problem can be summed up thusly: we do not press their defences hard enough when they have possession, allowing them to advance to halfway with ease. Conversely, we allow teams to press OUR defence into our final third. This has the effect of giving us no space and them plenty. Space is one of your best friends in football, and we never have enough of it, largely because of this ridiculous failing concept EVERY manager in this regime has tried to implement.
    - What was Riga doing with the substitutions?
    - We still look like a bunch of strangers: Fanni, Tex, Yun, Motta and Poyet were all signed in Jan. Pope has barely played; Harriott not long back from loan.
    - If that was truly the best they could do - in terms of effort, spirit, and quality - given the circumstances, we're down.
    - No-one seemed to care... like genuinely, not at all.
    - Fans did in fact try to get behind the team, despite it being so very hard to do so.

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    It was an advert for the game of rugby, cricket, tennis, snooker, darts, skiing, whatever you like, that match. Shite shite shite game from both sides.

    We're down.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,746

    If Sanogo was racially abused in the closing stages it was a justified act.

    And where has that nugget come from?
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    As someone who has always supported Riga ?

    WTF was he thinking of tonight ?
    Did Riga want a 0-0 Draw ?
    why 8 minutes for Lookman ?
    Why when Simon is struggling, did you keep him on for so long.
    Can Yaya not play for 30 minutes or longer ?

    Calum Harriott was trying his heart out and getting past defenders,
    so why the fuck did Riga take him off ?

    Why is Poyet the invisible man ?

    I feel worse tonight than when i traveled back from hull after the 6-0 tanking.

    Duchatelet your poison has killed this football club.
  • mogodonman
    mogodonman Posts: 237

    If Sanogo was racially abused in the closing stages it was a justified act.

    Any evidence he was? If he was, then it's inexcusable but so is a professional reacting like that
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,301
    vff said:

    Louis Mendez interview with Riga and does he best with decent questions.

    https://audioboom.com/boos/4277227-listen-cafc-riga-speaks-after-underwhelming-goalless-draw-cafclive

    Pretty incomprehensible answers from Riga. He talks and talks and talks.

    crap crap crap;and 2 games in 3 days derrrr! sat, sun mon , tues - isn't that 4? w........r

  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    Every manager this season has been a improvement

    Luzon - first 10 games 9 points & some crouching
    Fraeye - first 10 games 9 points & a nice handwritten note
    Riga - first 10 games 9 points & a lovely smile