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Fans that are club employees

We have heard lots about fans who work for the regime are Charlton through and through and in a difficult position.

Well now is the time to cross the line. Make it easier for the protestors tomorrow wherever you are whether on the tannoy, at the gates, a steward, ground manager, etc etc. Time to stand up.

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  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,055
    A fifth column!
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,429
    I agree, don't worry if you can't pay your rent/mortgage, feed your children etc etc. Get your priorities right your "football club" comes first, sacrifice your job!! FFS
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,203
    edited March 2016
    lol! Be quiet for five minutes and like AFKA says, and actually think about what your asking people to do

    If you had a mortgage to pay, a family (possibly a young family) to fend for would you cross the picket line and risk it all by joining any protesters against the Company that you work for... Remember that if you did, it would create a knock on effect for years to come (i.e. you'd probably be sacked and it would be brought up at every job you go for)

    Its people like Olly and Dave that are in the worst positions as they probably dont like what is happening and would love to join in but know they cant!!
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Turn it in. It's their job FFS - they have outgoings just like the rest of us. Not down to club employees to help out.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,013
    Club more important than your job? You need to get out more.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,429
    T.C.E said:

    I agree, don't worry if you can't pay your rent/mortgage, feed your children etc etc. Get your priorities right your "football club" comes first, sacrifice your job!! FFS

    I hope people realise I'm not agreeing with those comments in the opening post?
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,346
    So by your initial reactions you don't think they should !
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,492
    Would rather turn it around and say, to the protestors tomorrow, remember that for a lot of the staff this is just their job. They've got families to support, things they enjoy doing, etc, and most of them probably don't have a dog in this fight, and some are probably supporters who agree but need this job.

    I know that Stewards in every country have a bit of the "mall cop" about them and can sometimes use their job and hi-vis jacket to throw their weight around. But a lot aren't like that. And most of them won't know who KM or RD are. This is a simple ploy by the wealthy and despotic to pit the working class against each other. Sorry...let my Communism show a bit there.

    I am a big believer in civil disobedience, but it has to be remembered that "Civil" has two meanings, relating to law and order/structure/power, but also civility.

    I'll get off my soap box now.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,429
    kentred2 said:

    So by your initial reactions you don't think they should !

    It's very easy to have an opinion on what others should be doing, do you not agree? Would you quit your job on my say so?

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  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    edited March 2016
    kentred2 said:

    So by your initial reactions you don't think they should !

    A very astute observation.

    Cant you understand the reasons why though?
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,346
    T.C.E said:

    kentred2 said:

    So by your initial reactions you don't think they should !

    It's very easy to have an opinion on what others should be doing, do you not agree? Would you quit your job on my say so?
    Who asked anyone to quit their job?


  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,872
    kentred2 said:

    T.C.E said:

    kentred2 said:

    So by your initial reactions you don't think they should !

    It's very easy to have an opinion on what others should be doing, do you not agree? Would you quit your job on my say so?
    Who asked anyone to quit their job?


    You're right, you're asking them to get fired for gross misconduct and destroying their chance of a good reference, ruining their future potential for employment too :-)
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,042
    kentred2 said:

    T.C.E said:

    kentred2 said:

    So by your initial reactions you don't think they should !

    It's very easy to have an opinion on what others should be doing, do you not agree? Would you quit your job on my say so?
    Who asked anyone to quit their job?


    You did. Maybe you didn't realise it, but you did. Unless you actually think anyone who does what you suggest would be able to keep the job under the Belgians? In which case you're probably better off saying nothing at all.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Once when the police in the Irish Republic, like ours not allowed to strike, had a dispute.
    They all called in sick on the same day.
  • I have a feeling this thread has not quiet gone the way the OP expected.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,429
    Huskaris said:

    kentred2 said:

    T.C.E said:

    kentred2 said:

    So by your initial reactions you don't think they should !

    It's very easy to have an opinion on what others should be doing, do you not agree? Would you quit your job on my say so?
    Who asked anyone to quit their job?


    You're right, you're asking them to get fired for gross misconduct and destroying their chance of a good reference, ruining their future potential for employment too :-)
    You gave my answer. ;)
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Customer employees?
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956

    Turn it in. It's their job FFS - they have outgoings just like the rest of us. Not down to club employees to help out.

    Well.................it would be good if the 11 on the pitch mucked in a bit more!
  • Turn it in. It's their job FFS - they have outgoings just like the rest of us. Not down to club employees to help out.

    Well.................it would be good if the 11 on the pitch mucked in a bit more!
    TBH I think some of them have been protesting with us for some time....


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  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,838
    edited March 2016
    From Newyorkaddick's blog analysis of the financials statements y/e 30 Jun 15

    "Total full-time club employees fell from 161 to 144, almost entirely explained by the non-football side (perhaps supports the commonly held view [evidenced by various well-publicised cock-ups] that the club is insufficiently resourced)."

    That's an 11% cut in non- footballing staff in a period of relative optimism covering most of last season. I would imagine similar or greater cuts would likely be seen should we go down. There's only so much that can be scaled back on the playing side before we are reduced to merely competing in 6 asides at a local Goals.

    Completely understand that people will not want to jeopardise their jobs, I wouldn't myself and can imagine the slightest bit of dissent or compliance with protesters would actively encourage them to make further "efficiency- savings" but I also very much doubt loyalty will be rewarded either in the big scheme of Operation Break Even.

    Job security is relevant to how successful a company's operation is in terms of profitability and meeting it's strategic objectives, the latter appearing to solely be about breaking even which will be an almost insurmountable task should we drop another level and will likely require even further cost cutting to stay anywhere aligned with that key objective of the lunatic krank.

    Because of the way Duchatelet and his incompetent CEO have elected to mismanage the club for 2 years the job prospects for staff are probably as secure as those working in branches of Ratners only difference being they don't have the nous or awareness to acknowledge how shit their product is to their customers.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982

    And perhaps many staff are already at risk ......... ?
    How many will be made redundant when we are relegated?

    The only safe job is Katrien's.

  • Oggy Red said:


    And perhaps many staff are already at risk ......... ?
    How many will be made redundant when we are relegated?

    The only safe job is Katrien's.

    And the players we have 'no market for' of course.