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Chris Powell attacks RD's statement

ross1
ross1 Posts: 51,154
in General Charlton
A brief opening to CP moan:

Chris Powell believes the statement released by Roland Duchatelet during the week is further evidence of the detachment between the Charlton owner and the club’s fans.

A statement was posted on the Charlton website on Tuesday evening, calling on supporters to back the team as they look to achieve a miraculous escape.

However, the bizarre release also claimed some fans “want the club to fail” after protests were held before, during and after the Middlesbrough game last Sunday.

Louis Sealey, Sports reporter / 04:40 Sunday 20 March 2016 / Charlton Athletic
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  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,219
    What did Sir Chris say? usually a headline like that requires some quotes...
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,450
    JiMMy 85 said:

    What did Sir Chris say? usually a headline like that requires some quotes...

    "the statement released by Roland Duchatelet during the week is further evidence of the detachment between the Charlton owner and the club’s fans."
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Garrymanilow said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    Nope.
    I am quite sure you'll find some do.

    For example, no particular poster but plenty of people would say "I'll take relegation if the Belgian C#@$ sells the club"

    That's undeniable.
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    Depends what you mean by fail - in the short term sense relegation is failure, but many people (myself included) see this a preferable alternative to the longer term failure being caused by the inept ownership and management. No one wants to see the club fail, but when faced with the continuing shambles this ownership represents, relegation that may encourage the owners to piss off can be viewed as beneficial. Sadly I don't think relegation will mean the end of RD but then survival is a validation of his methods, which is far far worse
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    The problem we have is we will get relegated and Roly will still be here next season.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    There's another thread here....

    Straight Answer To Straight Question,

    Would you prefer to see Charlton go down if it meant RD sold up?

    or

    Would you prefer to see the Club stay up and RD hang around?

    Maybe @Stig could do one of the online polls. Or maybe I'm talking a load of bollocks and no one's bothered...

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,292
    Here we go @i_b_b_o_r_g

    One question, two possible answers everybody. No ifs, no buts.

    https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/3XWNGLW
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    The first option every time.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    PL54 said:

    Garrymanilow said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    Nope.
    I am quite sure you'll find some do.

    For example, no particular poster but plenty of people would say "I'll take relegation if the Belgian C#@$ sells the club"

    That's undeniable.
    @PL54, I understand what your saying and technically you're right. BUT, actually what people really mean is that they will accept short term failure if it leads to RD and co selling up. Whether he will or not is his decision, however I can assure you that if he continues to try and run the club like he has over the last 2 years, especially this season, then this time next year (March 17) we will be discussing/protesting as we head hurtling towards League 2. He cant work under FFP rules when all the competition doesn't!!
    Hypothetically can I ask - if we are in the same position next season and trying to stave off relegation to League 2, will you and others finally see that? Whilst he may have done well with a new pitch and training facilities, the major part of his jigsaw is missing, i.e a competitive and large first team squad. He seems to have forgotten the most important part of football ownership....a successful team under a manger who knows what they are doing!
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,427
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    There's another thread here....

    Straight Answer To Straight Question,

    Would you prefer to see Charlton go down if it meant RD sold up?

    or

    Would you prefer to see the Club stay up and RD hang around?

    Maybe @Stig could do one of the online polls. Or maybe I'm talking a load of bollocks and no one's bothered...


    If we stay up (impossible), then RD will just do the same again.
    We would only be postponing the inevitable.

    BELGIANS OUT !
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,702
    I arrived at Hillsborough yesterday wanting us to win and cheering the team during the game.
    However whilst I wanting us to win I did think if we loose then I hope it's a big loss to further show up the current management, and that's what happened
  • Mark_West49
    Mark_West49 Posts: 410
    Redmidland said:

    PL54 said:

    Garrymanilow said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    Nope.
    I am quite sure you'll find some do.

    For example, no particular poster but plenty of people would say "I'll take relegation if the Belgian C#@$ sells the club"

    That's undeniable.
    @PL54, I understand what your saying and technically you're right. BUT, actually what people really mean is that they will accept short term failure if it leads to RD and co selling up. Whether he will or not is his decision, however I can assure you that if he continues to try and run the club like he has over the last 2 years, especially this season, then this time next year (March 17) we will be discussing/protesting as we head hurtling towards League 2. He cant work under FFP rules when all the competition doesn't!!
    Hypothetically can I ask - if we are in the same position next season and trying to stave off relegation to League 2, will you and others finally see that? Whilst he may have done well with a new pitch and training facilities, the major part of his jigsaw is missing, i.e a competitive and large first team squad. He seems to have forgotten the most important part of football ownership....a successful team under a manger who knows what they are doing!
    Picking up on this and the 'name change' thread, I seriously think the end game for RD and KM is to get their player farm/tourist attraction up and running, without the inconvenience of these vile, unwashed fans getting in the way.

    Still, even they must realise relegation to L1 isn't an option if they want to make their franchise work.

    No genuine fan wants the club to fail - but it will anyway - look at our results this season. When we go down it'll be blamed on the protests and the fans. If we stay up, it'll be fuel for T20k group and painted out to be another great decision to bring back Riga and justify the regime - but even then they'll say we wouldn't have been in this situation if the fans hadn't protested.

    The only answer for me, IMHO, is don't give one single penny to Rat or Squirrel Face.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,100
    Yup, a no brainer for me. Until that c#&$ sells the club, we can never move forwards, only backwards.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230
    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    I think some people have said they'd accept relegation if it brings about a change of ownership but that's that not quite the same as wanting the club to fail is it?
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    dickplumb said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    Will you stop posting such inflammatory rubbish. I and other fans I know don't want us to fail. If we didn't care what happens to the Club we would not be protesting. It seems to me you post things just to get a reaction. Didn't your parents give you any attention as a child?

    Don't get upset. What I say is true - and you know it.

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  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Exiled_Addick said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    I think some people have said they'd accept relegation if it brings about a change of ownership but that's that not quite the same as wanting the club to fail is it?
    Would you agree that relegation would be failure ?
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,102
    It's like asking "Would you be prepared to have a limb amputated if it would save your life?"
    Only in this case there's the possibility of the limb growing back, eventually.

    Of course, all of us would prefer that the club stays up and Roly goes anyway. But if relegation hastens his departure, I would take that rather than prolong this pain. It's only the fan protests that have rekindled my enthusiasm. If it weren't for those I'd have been past caring by now.

    By the way, that reporter needs to have some remedial English lessons. We laugh at the pidgin English of Meire and Roly, but that article is barely any better.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    PL54 said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    I think some people have said they'd accept relegation if it brings about a change of ownership but that's that not quite the same as wanting the club to fail is it?
    Would you agree that relegation would be failure ?
    Not if it was a prelude to the club moving forwards. It isn't too difficult to understand, even if you don't agree with the sentiment.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,828
    edited March 2016
    Mark_West49 said:

    Redmidland said:

    PL54 said:

    Garrymanilow said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    Nope.
    I am quite sure you'll find some do.

    For example, no particular poster but plenty of people would say "I'll take relegation if the Belgian C#@$ sells the club"

    That's undeniable.
    @PL54, I understand what your saying and technically you're right. BUT, actually what people really mean is that they will accept short term failure if it leads to RD and co selling up. Whether he will or not is his decision, however I can assure you that if he continues to try and run the club like he has over the last 2 years, especially this season, then this time next year (March 17) we will be discussing/protesting as we head hurtling towards League 2. He cant work under FFP rules when all the competition doesn't!!
    Hypothetically can I ask - if we are in the same position next season and trying to stave off relegation to League 2, will you and others finally see that? Whilst he may have done well with a new pitch and training facilities, the major part of his jigsaw is missing, i.e a competitive and large first team squad. He seems to have forgotten the most important part of football ownership....a successful team under a manger who knows what they are doing!
    Picking up on this and the 'name change' thread, I seriously think the end game for RD and KM is to get their player farm/tourist attraction up and running, without the inconvenience of these vile, unwashed fans getting in the way.

    Still, even they must realise relegation to L1 isn't an option if they want to make their franchise work.

    No genuine fan wants the club to fail - but it will anyway - look at our results this season. When we go down it'll be blamed on the protests and the fans. If we stay up, it'll be fuel for T20k group and painted out to be another great decision to bring back Riga and justify the regime - but even then they'll say we wouldn't have been in this situation if the fans hadn't protested.

    The only answer for me, IMHO, is don't give one single penny to Rat or Squirrel Face.
    They would be pretty stupid to blame the fans for relegation - at Sparrows Lane on Tuesday, when Johnnie Jackson was asked if the protests affected the players, he said that they were not affected by it. This was said in front of many of the Senior Management Team, as well as those of us invited to the training ground.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,422
    PL54 said:

    dickplumb said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    Will you stop posting such inflammatory rubbish. I and other fans I know don't want us to fail. If we didn't care what happens to the Club we would not be protesting. It seems to me you post things just to get a reaction. Didn't your parents give you any attention as a child?

    Don't get upset. What I say is true - and you know it.
    But then what would you do all day?
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,729
    PL54 said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    I think some people have said they'd accept relegation if it brings about a change of ownership but that's that not quite the same as wanting the club to fail is it?
    Would you agree that relegation would be failure ?
    No in corporate terms ( which The club is) failure is receivership or being wound up.

    Relegation is a price you pay for playing crap football by management that couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Getting back to Chris Powell, the great man is on Question of Sport on Wednesday.
  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    PL54 said:

    Some people do want the club to fail (ie get relegated) don't they ?

    23rd, goals conceded 69, 0-5, 0-6, 0-3, 0-3, 0-3, 0-3, 0-3, 0-3, etc, I'd say the Belgian Loony's serving up relegation on a plate, wouldn't you? It doesn't matter one jot whether anyone wants it or not. And you know it.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,512
    It is a silly question as we are all but doomed.
  • stonewallpenalty
    stonewallpenalty Posts: 3,842
    Get relegated = get rid of The Rat and Squirrel Bitch?

    Deal.


    If only it was that easy.

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