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  • 1StevieG said:

    1StevieG said:

    Got the feeling it wil be a bit like an expensive version Alien vs Predator. And we know how good that franchise was.......

    I was gutted the first graphic novel of Aliens vs Predator was absolute quality, the films as you say.....
    I have some of the comics too. Why is it the films are never as good as what you see on paper or in your head!
    because the imagination is ultimately your own re-creation of what you read or see on paper.

    Game of Thrones as an example, though excellent isn't as good as what my imagination conjured up from some words on a page.
  • suzisausage
    September 2014
    Saw 'Before I go to Sleep' yesterday after reading the book last weekend.

    Sorry Suzi, I was so disappointed with this film I refused to pass it on to the family, I have a reputation to maintain even if it is a bad one.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

    Smashy smashy bang bang, kaboom bang smash. Turn it down please kaboom smash boom wallop. Oh there's Lex, holy cow he's irritating smashy bang Batman's pretty good oh bam bam bam smash will somebody please punch Lex bam what? They're friends? Bammy smash smash this film makes no sense at all smashy bang.



    Haven't seen it but I don't get how this could even be a contest, Superman can move the speed of light-game over....instantly!
    How about watching it before making judgements? The title may be a little misleading for you, it isn't a boxing match.
    How come Batman kept punching Superman in the face? It might not be Queensbury rules but it's most definitely a punch up.

    As for the original question, they have ways of making the face off work that are closely tied to the plot, but with the villain being as simplistic as he is, it all falls apart. The shoehorning of DC future characters is woefully executed too.

    And Snyder is a hack, which is why the action scenes are irritating rather than interesting.
    Haven't seen it yet but disagree about Snyder. He clearly polarises opinions. I think he's made some excellent (and tbf some bad) films. But I can't get on board with people who instantly discount his films.
  • colthe3rd said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

    Smashy smashy bang bang, kaboom bang smash. Turn it down please kaboom smash boom wallop. Oh there's Lex, holy cow he's irritating smashy bang Batman's pretty good oh bam bam bam smash will somebody please punch Lex bam what? They're friends? Bammy smash smash this film makes no sense at all smashy bang.



    Haven't seen it but I don't get how this could even be a contest, Superman can move the speed of light-game over....instantly!
    How about watching it before making judgements? The title may be a little misleading for you, it isn't a boxing match.
    How come Batman kept punching Superman in the face? It might not be Queensbury rules but it's most definitely a punch up.

    As for the original question, they have ways of making the face off work that are closely tied to the plot, but with the villain being as simplistic as he is, it all falls apart. The shoehorning of DC future characters is woefully executed too.

    And Snyder is a hack, which is why the action scenes are irritating rather than interesting.
    Haven't seen it yet but disagree about Snyder. He clearly polarises opinions. I think he's made some excellent (and tbf some bad) films. But I can't get on board with people who instantly discount his films.
    He started off well with his Dawn of the Dead, and 300 was very well done, flawed but fun, and sadly instantly cliched. But beyond that, I'll keep fighting the good fight with anyone who calls that hack excellent. I find that opinion to be nonsense.

    He can paint a pretty picture, certainly, but there is no substance to his work. Watchmen worked because the story was already shaped for him. It was the perfect storyboard.

    Any time he's had to tell a story he's come up wanting. Owls of Ga'Hoole was pish, Man of Steel showed hints of quality (Nolan advised and or inspired) but was drowned out by Snyder's offensively shit action. And Sucker Punch is a proper, proper turkey. BvS is getting universally slammed, and rightly so. It defines his inability to tell a story at the cost of slamming special effects into buildings over, and over, and over again.

    So I'll discount his films having seen them, instantly, because it doesn't take very long to realise how shit they are.
  • Watchmen is brilliant imo. Yes you can argue everything was there from the novels but the look and feel of it was absolutely spot on. Sucker Punch I agree, terrible.

    I went back and watched Man of Steel a couple of months back. Was much better than I remembered, sure it has holes but there are very few superhero/comic book films that don't.

    I respect your opinion Jim, you're clearly very knowledgeable about film but I think (not saying you are) there are a lot out there who love sticking the boot in to Snyder for whatever reason. It's similar to Bay, people see their names attached to thing and it will be instantly written off. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
  • Being prejudiced sometimes just saves you valuable time.

    I mean, McG, Joel Schumacher, Michael Bay... how often are you going to be wrong by not seeing it?

    On the other hand, the guy who directed the execrable Gigli also made Midnight Run, one of my absolute all time favourites.

    There must be a bundle of other 'how did that guy make that film?' examples, I suppose.
  • 300 and Watchmen were splendid films. One of those rare occasions where I had to watch Watchmen twice to get it. Man of Steel was OK but have steered clear of his other stuff relying on the reviews that things like Sucker Punch got. You go through times when you see so much shit that you end up reading or listening to a review and saying nah, lifes too short!
  • edited March 2016
    Deadpool


    These Marvel films are growing on me. Now that they are diversifying and showing some of the lesser known Marvel characters other than the likes of the Hulk , Spiderman and Ironman of this other world , who I find quite boring we now get to see movies like Guardians of The Galaxy and now Deadpool.
    Having said that Deadpool isn't as good as GotG although I suspect it thinks it is.
    This is the story of Wade Wilson , who when he discovers he has terminal cancer , decides to participate in a top-secret experiment which cures his cancers but turns him into his alter ego , DeadPool. A Superhero that cannot die.
    This is absolutely ram packed full of jokes. Far to many to take in on the first viewing. Some very funny some not so.
    The action is excellent as you would expect and it's not too long so it doesn't outstay it's welcome. I love the fact that he teams up with a couple of X-Men but only the ones the film studio can afford !
    It does have an air of smugness about it and tries far too hard at times to be funny but I enjoyed it and I did laugh quite a few times.


    7 out of 10


    https://youtu.be/Xithigfg7dA
  • I watched Carol and Brooklyn last week. Thought Carol was a bit overrated. It lacked depth.

    I couldn't agree more. I wasn't convinced by the relationship at all. As you said, lacks depth.

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  • Just to clear something up Beds: Deadpool is a Fox movie character, not Marvel. Like the X-Men. None of those characters are part of the Marvel series, they were bought by Fox years ago when Marvel didn't have a studio or any idea what to do with their characters.

    Deadpool might (but probably won't) feature in a future X-Men movie, but won't go anywhere near the Avengers. The only character to cross the ownership divide is Spider-Man, because Sony messed it up so badly they needed Marvel's help to start again.

    This infographic shows who owns what:

  • JiMMy 85 said:

    Just to clear something up Beds: Deadpool is a Fox movie character, not Marvel. Like the X-Men. None of those characters are part of the Marvel series, they were bought by Fox years ago when Marvel didn't have a studio or any idea what to do with their characters.

    Deadpool might (but probably won't) feature in a future X-Men movie, but won't go anywhere near the Avengers. The only character to cross the ownership divide is Spider-Man, because Sony messed it up so badly they needed Marvel's help to start again.

    This infographic shows who owns what:

    Thanks Jimmy. As you can probably gather it's not a genre I'm that knowledgeable about . My comic reading days involved The Beano and Whizzer & Chips. I was never into DC or Marvel
  • Deadpool is a marvel comics character portrayed by 20th century Fox for movie purposes.

    He first appeared in 1991 in the comic books.
  • I thought that 300 was a awful but I couldn't be arsed to sit through the whole of the Lord of the Rings either and lots of people think that is great.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    Just to clear something up Beds: Deadpool is a Fox movie character, not Marvel. Like the X-Men. None of those characters are part of the Marvel series, they were bought by Fox years ago when Marvel didn't have a studio or any idea what to do with their characters.

    Deadpool might (but probably won't) feature in a future X-Men movie, but won't go anywhere near the Avengers. The only character to cross the ownership divide is Spider-Man, because Sony messed it up so badly they needed Marvel's help to start again.

    This infographic shows who owns what:

    Thanks Jimmy. As you can probably gather it's not a genre I'm that knowledgeable about . My comic reading days involved The Beano and Whizzer & Chips. I was never into DC or Marvel
    Yeah me too. Roy of the Rovers all the way.

    On a side note, Sony is a really interesting studio to pay attention to because they are floundering around trying to come up with a 'multi-verse' franchise that would allow them to make lots of films like the Marvel or Warners/ DC set up.

    They tried it with Amazing Spider-Man. There was a sequence toward the end of the second (fifth) Spidey film setting up their stable of Spidey villains (which are the other Marvel characters they own, like Doc Ock and Rhino). But that cynicism was transparent, and along with their desperate attempts to sell Sony Vaio laptops and Blu Ray players, showed creativity was second to the marketing demands.

    DC are also showing, with BvS, that creating a franchise like Marvel's is much, much harder than they thought. Like Spidey 2, they crammed a sequence in to kickstart the other character movies (it actually plays out like one character watching a bunch of teaser trailers).

    So aside from Spidey, Sony have looked at their properties and tried to do it elsewhere; Most notably with Ghostbusters. They hope that reboot/ sequel will allow a new world of Ghostbusters movies, but unless they learn the creative lesson, they'll keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
  • Daredevil was on last night. When I watched it the first time round I fell asleep, second time round I thought it was poor. Third time round it was OK, forgot Joey Pants and Kevin Smith were in it. Ben Affleck is good as DD and Jennifer Garner, not so good, as Elektra. Best line in the film is when Colin Farrels character, Bullseye, jumps out of Kingpins seat after being asked if he wants anything else after a successfull hit "Yeah, I want one of those outfits!".
  • edited March 2016
    Saw batman v superman yesterday at my wife's instigation. Two and a half hours of my life I won't get back. Absolute and utter shite. Plot makes no sense. Cliches abound. Just dreadful.
  • Saw batman v superman yesterday at my wife's instigation. Two and a half hours of my life I won't get back. Absolute and utter shite. Plot makes no sense. Cliches abound. Just dreadful.

    Great. My kids are dragging me kicking and screaming to the cinema to see it tomorrow.
  • edited March 2016
    Decided to go for a film that had been slated recently to see how bad it really was. One of either Pixels or Entourage before shut eye on the plane home. Opted for Pixels. The sort of film you can enoy on a plane to kill some time where the comedy is dumb, the acting is dumb, the CGI is dumb and the plot is dumb ( same can be said for 99% of Adam Sandler films ). Laughed a few times and it was thankfully all wrapped within an hour and a half.
  • edited March 2016


    Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice


    To say this is stupid is an understatement. Rarely have I seen a film with so much going on that makes very little sense.
    It's hard to review a film like Batman v Superman and pinpoint it's faults without giving spoilers away but what I will say is never has a Batman been so dumb. The whole premise of the film is a battle between Batman and Superman but the reason for the conflict make absolutely no sense. The opening scenes are confusing and final scenes are utterly pointless. It's as if they had an idea to base a film around and shelved it two thirds into the movie.
    My kids were asking me questions about what was going on throughout the film and try as I might I couldn't always give them answers.
    It's not absolutely terrible but it is a mess.
    Despite being an executive producer , Christopher Nolan must be laughing his socks off.


    5 out of 10



    https://youtu.be/eX_iASz1Si8
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  • Batman v superman: totally cack. Ben Affleck playing batman??? My nan would be more menacing and she dead.
    superman is more super pussy. And If I was superman, who could have his pick of any woman on the planet, I wouldn't be in love with an ugly ginger bird.
    Don't get me started on Wonder Woman.....

  • Weird, you sound perfectly suited to the film
  • High Rise is great btw
  • Leuth said:

    Weird, you sound perfectly suited to the film </blockquote
    Who are we to judge.

  • edited March 2016
    One to look out for soon Jungle Book ( probably not a patch on the original but looks good )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqmUoteadZI
  • Had a Disney presentation recently, and The Jungle Book looked great.

    They also showed us Beauty and the Beast, which is going to be as big a hit as Cinderella (if you have a daughter or sister, this will be huge - it's a live action version with the same script/ songs as the cartoon).

    They also said Captain America: Civil War would be called Avengers: Civil War or Avengers 2.5 if they were contractually allowed to do so. Again, it looked really good, especially compared to BvS.

    They also showed us Zootropolis which has since come out, and I can't recommend it enough. Disney Animation are up there with Pixar now, thanks to John Lasseter really. A fantastically funny, beautiful-looking, standalone family film.
  • Went to see Anomalisa last night. It's stop-motion animation but very, very different to anything you'll see in a Wallace and Gromit film. David Thewlis is excellent as the voice of the main character in a funny story about a man who's very unhappy with his life.
  • Went to see Anomalisa last night. It's stop-motion animation but very, very different to anything you'll see in a Wallace and Gromit film. David Thewlis is excellent as the voice of the main character in a funny story about a man who's very unhappy with his life.

    I'm sure it says more about me than the film but I found the sex scene quite disturbing.
  • ozaddick said:

    Batman v superman: totally cack. Ben Affleck playing batman??? My nan would be more menacing and she dead.
    superman is more super pussy. And If I was superman, who could have his pick of any woman on the planet, I wouldn't be in love with an ugly ginger bird.
    Don't get me started on Wonder Woman.....

    Whilst not a stunner, she is not ugly at all.
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