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Who's going to stay/go when we go down(players)
Kermitrules
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What players should stay or go?
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What makes you think we are going down25
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Names in bold are out of contract or having loans that will expire
Goalkeepers
Stephen Henderson 2017
Nick Pope 2018
Marko Dmitrovic 2016 - (Loaned to Alcorcon until end of 2015/6 season)
Right Backs
Chris Solly 2017
Rod Fanni (on loan from Al Arabia until end of 2015/16 season)
Marco Motta 2016
Centre Backs
Patrick Bauer 2019
Roger Johnson 2017
Naby Sarr 2020
Harry Lennon 2018
Jorge Teixeira 2020
Left Backs
Morgan Fox 2018
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis 2018
Yun Suk-Young (on loan from QPR until end of 2015/16 season)
Right Midfielders
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson 2019
Central Midfielders
Diego Poyet (On loan from West Ham until end of 2015/16 season)
Jordan Cousins 2019
Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option
Johnnie Jackson 2017
Ahmed Kashi 2018
El-Hadji Ba 2018
Cristian Ceballos 2018
Left Midfielders
Callum Harriott 2016 plus possible option
Zakarya Bergdich 2019
Strikers
Ademola Lookman 2020
Simon Makienok (Loaned from Palermo until end of 2015/16 season)
Reza Ghoochannejhad 2016
Igor Vetokele 2019
Karlan Ahearne-Grant 2017 plus 1 year option
Tony Watt 2018 (Loaned to Blackburn Rovers until end of 2015/6 season)
George Tucudean 2017 (On loan to ASA Tirgu Mures of Romania Not Confirmed)
Yaya Sonogo (On loan from Arsenal until end of 2015/16 season)
U21 Development Squad
Goalkeepers
Dimitar Mitov 2017 plus one year option
Dillon Phillips 2016 (On loan to Cheltenham for remainder of the season)
Jordan Beeney 2018 (had heard he signed a 2 year scholarship and 2 year pro deal)
Right Backs
Aaron Barnes 2016 or 2017 (estimated)
Centre Backs
Ezri Konsa 2017 Undisclosed "Long Term"
Terell Thomas 2017
Josh Staunton 2016
Ayo Obileye 2016
Kenneth Yao - undisclosed long term contract
Left Backs
Archie Edwards 2016 or 2017 (estimated)
Central Midfielders
Regan Charles-Cook Undisclosed "Long Term"
Oliver Muldoon 2017 (On loan to Dagenham and Redbridge until end of season)
Joe Aribo (2016 estimated)
Alex Kelly 2016 or 2017 (estimated)
George Lapslie 2017 or 2018 (estimated)
Anfernee Dijksteel - 2017
Strikers
Joe Pigott 2016 (on loan to Luton Town to end of the season)
Zak Ansah 2016
Mikhail Kennedy 2018
Tobi Sho-Silva 2016
Josh Umerah 2016 or 2017 (estimated)
Brandon Hanlan 2016 or 2017 (estimated)7 -
New LOL record impending3
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Tobi has left the club already so should surely be removed from the squad list?0
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Roger Johnson: 2017
Naby Sarr: 2020
Henry, you have just ruined my morning29 -
get used to the names from the development squad.......0
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I standby my earlier list of players for next season.
Goalkeepers: Nick Pope / Dimitar Mitov
Defence: Chris Solly / Harry Lennon / Morgan Fox
Midfield: Johnnie Jackson / El-Hadji Ba / Callum Harriott / Tarieq Holmes-Dennis / Jordan Cousins (?) / Regan Charles-Cook
Strikers: Ademola Lookman / Karlan Ahearne-Grant / Josh Umerah / Mikhail Kennedy
With a lot of holes being filled...0 -
I would hope we keep Tiexiera and Bauer .. a defence of Solly, Bauer, Tex and Fox would be a good start .. midfield .. Cousins, Ba, an experienced ENGLISH newcomer, Bergdich (I know he's not rated by the majority on here) can't see Diarra, Fanni, Motta, Ceballos, JBG still being around .. Big Mak, Reza, Vetokele will be gone I reckon... so we'll need another striker or two as Lookman and the other youngsters won't last for the full 46 plus cup games .. Like to see Madden of Scunthorpe or Winnall of Barnsley, regular scorers in the 1st Div, but can't see it happening .. .. ask me again in a few weeks when the whole contract/transfer/retained list situation is clearer.
As I wrote on another post, SOOOOO much is up for grabs .. owners, managers, new money, take-overs, suicides, murders ...... time will tell
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Gudmundsson will be the first in contract player sold I would imagine2
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Pope
Solly ... Bauer ... Teixeira ... Fox
Charles-Cook ... Cousins ... Jackson ... Bergdich
X ... Lookman
Bench: Mitov ... Motta ... Lennon ... Ba ... X ... X ... X
Reckon a side like that could do some serious damage in League One.8 -
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He'll get injured at the Euros and be out for 9 months.Bedsaddick said:Gudmundsson will be the first in contract player sold I would imagine
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Pigott could feature for us next season - he was well liked at Southend and proved he could score goals at League 1 level when given the service. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of other League 1 teams looking at him if his contract is up this year?0
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dont think these will be here next season;
Stephen Henderson
Marco Motta
Patrick Bauer
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson
Alou Diarra
Ahmed Kashi
Callum Harriott
Ademola Lookman
Reza Ghoochannejhad
Igor Vetokele
Tony Watt
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If Roland stays then it would be nice to see him finally show a bit of ambition by keeping Cousins, JBG, Igor.
Wolves kept Sako etc when they were relegated a few seasons back.
Bauer and Tex would be a good centre back pairing next season.7 -
Whoever does go it will be for a lot less in league 1 than if we remained in the Championship, especially with the new premier league TV money swimming around next season and that is bad news for RD!
I am guessing that we may see the following moved on to help balance the books;
Henderson (Could have fetched around £1m if in Championship for an Intl keeper, lucky to get £500k in league 1)
Bauer (Again, probably looking at around £1m in Championship, lucky to get £750k in league 1)
Teixeira (Made a decent impact at Championship level so could have got around £750k at that level but more like £500k in league 1)
JBG (With a half decent Euro Championships behind him we could have asked for around £5m if still in Championship, would be lucky to get £3m tops in league 1 and that is at a push)
Cousins (In the Championship maybe £3m at a push but in league 1 would be looking at around £1m)
Lookman (In the Championship we could have asked for around £5m for a young forward with potential, would be lucky to get £3m tops in league 1)
Of course we will never know the true fees as all will be undisclosed and straight into Roly's pocket. He will asset strip the squad to the bare bones before selling up and heading back to Belgium, just like he did at SL!
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Is Lookman coming back on loan then ? Because that's the only way he will be with us next season.1
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I don't think Lookman is ready for a top side to be honest, one season in League One (like Chamberlain at Southampton) will do him a world of good... At the moment teams know he's dangerous and are marking him out of the game bar a handful of teams.
If he leaves for a top team he's going the same way as either Diego Poyet or Kasey Palmer (i.e. U21s and then who knows!!)
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He's off to Arsenal1
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Is he?ShootersHillGuru said:He's off to Arsenal
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Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option;
What does this actually mean?0 -
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Its like Callum Harriott... Doesnt it mean that if the club decide we can offer one more year to the player (Who knows its there so for 2016/17 their career is safe) who can then decide whether they too wish to take it up or not?Simonsen said:Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option;
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So, the same as any other contract that is about to expire?ForeverAddickted said:
Its like Callum Harriott... Doesnt it mean that if the club decide we can offer one more year to the player (Who knows its there so for 2016/17 their career is safe) who can then decide whether they too wish to take it up or not?Simonsen said:Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option;
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Not really because I guess if Kennedy's Contract was to expire without the option, he has to sweat and wonder if an offer will come.Simonsen said:
So, the same as any other contract that is about to expire?ForeverAddickted said:
Its like Callum Harriott... Doesnt it mean that if the club decide we can offer one more year to the player (Who knows its there so for 2016/17 their career is safe) who can then decide whether they too wish to take it up or not?Simonsen said:Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option;
What does this actually mean?
In terms of the Option I wonder if the club even have to decide to offer it... I wonder if Diarra / Harriott only have to walk up to Katrien and say: "I will take you up on that one year option" and it has to be honoured.0 -
ForeverAddickted said:Simonsen said:
Yes, that would make more sense (presumably at the same money?). PS: I hope that's the case and both players do exactly that.ForeverAddickted said:Simonsen said:Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option;
What does this actually mean?
In terms of the Option I wonder if the club even have to decide to offer it... I wonder if Diarra / Harriott only have to walk up to Katrien and say: "I will take you up on that one year option" and it has to be honoured.0 -
Yes...that would make more sense. I hope that's the case and both players do exactly as you've suggested.ForeverAddickted said:
Not really because I guess if Kennedy's Contract was to expire without the option, he has to sweat and wonder if an offer will come.Simonsen said:
So, the same as any other contract that is about to expire?ForeverAddickted said:
Its like Callum Harriott... Doesnt it mean that if the club decide we can offer one more year to the player (Who knows its there so for 2016/17 their career is safe) who can then decide whether they too wish to take it up or not?Simonsen said:Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option;
What does this actually mean?
In terms of the Option I wonder if the club even have to decide to offer it... I wonder if Diarra / Harriott only have to walk up to Katrien and say: "I will take you up on that one year option" and it has to be honoured.0 -
Its probably no different to a Contract which has a trigger based on the number of Appearances.Simonsen said:
Yes...that would make more sense. I hope that's the case and both players do exactly as you've suggested.ForeverAddickted said:
Not really because I guess if Kennedy's Contract was to expire without the option, he has to sweat and wonder if an offer will come.Simonsen said:
So, the same as any other contract that is about to expire?ForeverAddickted said:
Its like Callum Harriott... Doesnt it mean that if the club decide we can offer one more year to the player (Who knows its there so for 2016/17 their career is safe) who can then decide whether they too wish to take it up or not?Simonsen said:Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option;
What does this actually mean?
In terms of the Option I wonder if the club even have to decide to offer it... I wonder if Diarra / Harriott only have to walk up to Katrien and say: "I will take you up on that one year option" and it has to be honoured.
The new Contract is honoured the moment the player activates it rather than the club (Although the club do have control over the appearances one; e.g. Rob Green at QPR / Jeffers with us and erm Yann Kermorgant)0 -
It's not who should stay, but who will we be able to afford...with RD in control, revenue will be so low that almost all will be sold in the summer, or if we cannot off-load them for a fee, then loaned out prior to the end of August. RD will want to maximise transfer revenue to give him an option of selling the club, so don't expect anyone of value to be left...
I expect the following to be gone by the end of August -
Henderson
Motta
Suk-Young
Bauer
Teixeira
Diarra
Fanni
Fox
Kashi
Cousins
Gudmundsson
Vetokele
Lookman
Bergdich
Ba
Sarr
Ghoochenajhad
Poyet
Makienok
Sanogo
Watt
Ceballos
Tucadean
This will leave us with a squad of -
Pope
Mitov
Solly
Charles-Cook
Holmes-Dennis
Lennon
Johnson
Jackson
Muldoon
Lapslie
Harriot
Hanlon
Umerah
KAG
plus a couple of free transfers and the younger youngsters.1 -
Thats a huge amount of money coming in presuming we sell them all, but we won't have anyone here that will be able to spend it wisely.GreenhitheRed said:Whoever does go it will be for a lot less in league 1 than if we remained in the Championship, especially with the new premier league TV money swimming around next season and that is bad news for RD!
I am guessing that we may see the following moved on to help balance the books;
Henderson (Could have fetched around £1m if in Championship for an Intl keeper, lucky to get £500k in league 1)
Bauer (Again, probably looking at around £1m in Championship, lucky to get £750k in league 1)
Teixeira (Made a decent impact at Championship level so could have got around £750k at that level but more like £500k in league 1)
JBG (With a half decent Euro Championships behind him we could have asked for around £5m if still in Championship, would be lucky to get £3m tops in league 1 and that is at a push)
Cousins (In the Championship maybe £3m at a push but in league 1 would be looking at around £1m)
Lookman (In the Championship we could have asked for around £5m for a young forward with potential, would be lucky to get £3m tops in league 1)
Of course we will never know the true fees as all will be undisclosed and straight into Roly's pocket. He will asset strip the squad to the bare bones before selling up and heading back to Belgium, just like he did at SL!
Look what SCP was able to build from just the sale of Jenkinson. Although Riga doesn't have the worst transfer record I'd be worried at the proposition of him spending all that money when that kind of cash won't come about again in League 1.0 -
Bauer and Tex would be a great pairing (shame we haven't had the chance to see this so far), however both were playing in the Europa League not long ago, so can't see them wanting to hang around to play in League 1!
Lennon & (unfortunately) Johnson is a more likely pairing next season0 -
Not if they want an increase in Season Tickets it wontRufus is a dogs name said:Bauer and Tex would be a great pairing (shame we haven't had the chance to see this so far), however both were playing in the Europa League not long ago, so can't see them wanting to hang around to play in League 1!
Lennon & (unfortunately) Johnson is a more likely pairing next season1
