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CARD Statements for Todays Actions

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    I couldn't get to the valley yesterday but the initial postings suggested a very significant steward presence.

    So even though there was no big protest action on the day other than a recommended merchandise boycott, the threat of doing something will have cost a lot of money.

    I think the lack of action on this day was perfect. Well done everyone for making that decision. The club has no idea how to react.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    Fair enough about the reasons for no protests. However it felt like there was much less anti Roland sentiment yesterday than before. Fewer black and white scarves and pretty lukewarm anti regime chanting. Is end of season apathy setting in?
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,823
    However it felt like there was much less anti Roland sentiment yesterday than before.

    Due to less Charlton fans in the ground than other recent games.

    Fewer black and white scarves

    That's because of the clash of colours with Derby (which actually meant that there were a lot more!) - it was the same at Fulham with many wearing red on the day than black and white.

    and pretty lukewarm anti regime chanting.

    Again, because of less fans. There was plenty of Roland out chants, but the game was also quite intriguing and good to watch.

    Is end of season apathy setting in?

    Possibly, or at least acceptance of relegation.

  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    Couldn't care less about other clubs promotion chances, or how big a game it is for them. If getting a game abandoned or delayed brings more embarrassment to the regime (which it will) I am all for it
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    WSS said:

    They'll be fine if they get a 3-0 gimme.


    That would not happen.

    Huddersfield were safe last season when they played Blackpool.

    There would be uproar with the top 7 clubs if Brighton or Burnley were awarded 3 points and a 3 nil scoreline.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    SDAddick said:

    Davo55 said:


    2. A desire not to spoil the Upbeats day was a key factor yesterday and a number of CARD organisers/volunteers were on the walk anyway, which would have impacted our ability to do something more eye catching.

    To me, this should end the conversation about the Derby game. Many CARD members were doing something else, something I imagine they consider to be very important (and still connected to the club), so if nothing else logistically things would be very difficult. This is a group of volunteers limited in numbers and the amount of time they can dedicate.

    On top of that, I would say that the Upbeats walk is more important than one day of protests. There's always next week...
    So unless I missed it why didn't CARD simply say just that?

    No one would object and the club still inconvenienced by a such a relatively late announcement
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004

    Fair enough about the reasons for no protests. However it felt like there was much less anti Roland sentiment yesterday than before. Fewer black and white scarves and pretty lukewarm anti regime chanting. Is end of season apathy setting in?

    I was at back of East Stand in front of Dimension Data box ...black and white scarves all around us.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    PL54 said:

    So apart from a few people having a bit of a jolly in fancy dress did anything actually happen yesterday? There I was thinking we were all taking the fight against the regime seriously.

    He's bound to sell now that some camels were spotted in Floyd Road
    Breaking News:
    "Charlton Owner Roland Dutchatelet has finally given in to the fans protests and has publicly stated the club is now for sale ...which is said to be purely on the basis that some fans dressed up as camels.
    He stated that he was deeply offended by the actions of addicks fans as they obviously discovered that his ex partner used to suffer from severe camel toe. This drew Dutchatelet over the edge and to a sudden conclusion that he now must sell up.

    Charlton fans obviously clocked on to this weak spot and used the costumes as a way of making fun against the regime.
    This particular protest method has clearly had an unsurprising immediate effect and Charlton supporters can celebrate knowing they now have their club back".

    "In other news, a patriotic man with initials P. L, born in 1954 has been sectioned.
    Its under an apparent "sarcasm miserable meltdown". He appears to be in a severe moany old sarcastic state of shock. It's a rare mental condition, but we wish him well and hope for a quick recovery".

  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,973
    I sit in the upper west stand block q and most of the very few people around me I had never seen before. have a feeling they where tourists looking for a cheap football match for the day, so it was very quiet up there.
    I expect the casual visitor will make up a bigger proportion of the crowd next season and so the atmosphere will be even flatter.
  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    CARD asking for more donations after Saturday's cringe really is the straw that breaks the camel's back for me.
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  • Big_Bob said:

    CARD asking for more donations after Saturday's cringe really is the straw that breaks the camel's back for me.

    Would you not think it's more likely that (having raised c£20k) there's something big on for the next couple of weeks (in which case the low level approach on Saturday was entirely appropriate, in addition to concentrating on the Upbeats)?

    Don't know, I'm just saying.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,406
    Why do so many expect something sensational every week? CARD and others have done a great job and will continue to. I imagine a fair deal is planned for the final two home matches. This week was about the Upbeats, after all. Not sure what those who are unhappy expect (in many cases riots and pitch invasions it seems) but look at the last three months and the amazing publicity for our cause, and also how it has clearly rattled the regime. I imagine the club was on high alert anyway, so in that regard there was an impact, plus the catering blockade seems to have been effective.

    If nothing happens when we host Brighton and Burnley, then have a dig. But suspect it's not going to be an easy ride for Squirrel Face, Murray and the stewards ...
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    SDAddick said:

    Davo55 said:


    2. A desire not to spoil the Upbeats day was a key factor yesterday and a number of CARD organisers/volunteers were on the walk anyway, which would have impacted our ability to do something more eye catching.

    To me, this should end the conversation about the Derby game. Many CARD members were doing something else, something I imagine they consider to be very important (and still connected to the club), so if nothing else logistically things would be very difficult. This is a group of volunteers limited in numbers and the amount of time they can dedicate.

    On top of that, I would say that the Upbeats walk is more important than one day of protests. There's always next week...
    So unless I missed it why didn't CARD simply say just that?

    No one would object and the club still inconvenienced by a such a relatively late announcement
    I think if you read between the lines some key members have to some extent. Also, I suspect they want to keep the regime guessing, I don't think they want to tip their hand (no pun intended). For them it's best if their timing and motivation remain opaque.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    After next weekend this thread is going to look silly :smile: as will lots of people on here :smiley:
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,762
    mogodon said:

    Why do so many expect something sensational every week? CARD and others have done a great job and will continue to. I imagine a fair deal is planned for the final two home matches. This week was about the Upbeats, after all. Not sure what those who are unhappy expect (in many cases riots and pitch invasions it seems) but look at the last three months and the amazing publicity for our cause, and also how it has clearly rattled the regime. I imagine the club was on high alert anyway, so in that regard there was an impact, plus the catering blockade seems to have been effective.

    If nothing happens when we host Brighton and Burnley, then have a dig. But suspect it's not going to be an easy ride for Squirrel Face, Murray and the stewards ...

    I heard on Saturday that the Greenwich Suite will not be used next season.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,329
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    After next weekend this thread is going to look silly :smile: as will lots of people on here :smiley:

    You finally doing your pitch invasion
  • mogodon said:

    Why do so many expect something sensational every week? CARD and others have done a great job and will continue to. I imagine a fair deal is planned for the final two home matches. This week was about the Upbeats, after all. Not sure what those who are unhappy expect (in many cases riots and pitch invasions it seems) but look at the last three months and the amazing publicity for our cause, and also how it has clearly rattled the regime. I imagine the club was on high alert anyway, so in that regard there was an impact, plus the catering blockade seems to have been effective.

    If nothing happens when we host Brighton and Burnley, then have a dig. But suspect it's not going to be an easy ride for Squirrel Face, Murray and the stewards ...

    I heard on Saturday that the Greenwich Suite will not be used next season.
    Another call center opportunity?
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    After next weekend this thread is going to look silly :smile: as will lots of people on here :smiley:

    You finally doing your pitch invasion
    There will never be a pitch invasion at the valley :)
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    After next weekend this thread is going to look silly :smile: as will lots of people on here :smiley:

    Not worried about looking silly, I look silly most of the time anyway. I liked the original protests when I could go along after the game and express my anger at what Roland is doing to Charlton. And it was free.
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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,700

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    After next weekend this thread is going to look silly :smile: as will lots of people on here :smiley:

    You finally doing your pitch invasion
    100% committed
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,633

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    After next weekend this thread is going to look silly :smile: as will lots of people on here :smiley:

    You finally doing your pitch invasion
    100% committed
    Wasn't it 200, last time?
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,976
    As one of the camels on Saturday I am really surprised at some of the negative posts about this protest as there was no hint of this on the day. When I've handed stuff out at other games those that don't 'approve' generally make it clear.

    As others have said, you can't please everyone at every different protest. If CARD tried to do that there probably wouldn't be any.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917

    As one of the camels on Saturday I am really surprised at some of the negative posts about this protest as there was no hint of this on the day. When I've handed stuff out at other games those that don't 'approve' generally make it clear.

    As others have said, you can't please everyone at every different protest. If CARD tried to do that there probably wouldn't be any.

    I think you did a great job mate :) don't worry about all the knobs on here who love to criticise others to compensate for there inaction.

    Better to have tried and failed than to never have tried before :smile:
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    edited April 2016
    More favourable mentions in the Guardian Football Weekly Podcast, Paul Elliot came out very well as I guess James Richardson knows him well from the Football Italia days, he said there wasn't a better bloke that could front a consortium.