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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    killerandflash said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.

    Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with us
    I agree they both did, and I think Buyens was actually quiet underrated by a lot of Charlton fans - however neither were the creative force in the middle of the park that Stephens was.
  • redlanered
    redlanered Posts: 2,196
    FishCostaFortune said:

    killerandflash said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.

    Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with us
    I agree they both did, and I think Buyens was actually quiet underrated by a lot of Charlton fans - however neither were the creative force in the middle of the park that Stephens was.
    I liked Buyens, thought Poyet was effective but overrated by many here (now he's been found out...). As for Dale, from his very first game back in L1 he made a difference, liked him from the start
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,575
    Cant believe Rhys Williams didn't make it
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  • CyrilDavies
    CyrilDavies Posts: 855
    I bet he is pleased now...
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    I think it's fair to say that Dale is now much happier playing his football up north.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    ForeverAddickted said:

    killerandflash said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.

    Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with us
    Dale came good because Jordan Cousins made his debut...

    Those two alongside each other meant that Dale could just concentrate on creating play
    Spot on. What a core to the team we could've had with those two, Morrison and Kermorgant. But Roland knew best.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,863
    The Red Robin said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    killerandflash said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.

    Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with us
    Dale came good because Jordan Cousins made his debut...

    Those two alongside each other meant that Dale could just concentrate on creating play
    Spot on. What a core to the team we could've had with those two, Morrison and Kermorgant. But Roland knew best.
    Not sure you can blame RD for the Dale Stephens departure, if a player has 6 months left on his contract and isn't going to sign another, then you either lose them for nothing or sell them in January and get a fee. That one is down to the money running out for TJ and MS
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,778
    LargeAddick said:

    Cant believe Rhys Williams didn't make it

    Completely forgot about him. Jesus.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    killerandflash said:

    The Red Robin said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    killerandflash said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.

    Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with us
    Dale came good because Jordan Cousins made his debut...

    Those two alongside each other meant that Dale could just concentrate on creating play
    Spot on. What a core to the team we could've had with those two, Morrison and Kermorgant. But Roland knew best.
    Not sure you can blame RD for the Dale Stephens departure, if a player has 6 months left on his contract and isn't going to sign another, then you either lose them for nothing or sell them in January and get a fee. That one is down to the money running out for TJ and MS
    More of a general point on all of them.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,863
    LargeAddick said:

    Cant believe Rhys Williams didn't make it

    I would have thought all the MKD, Rotherham and Bristol City players would have voted for him, for his contribution to our relegation campaign...
  • drewman
    drewman Posts: 1,104
    Callumcafc said:

    Dale Stephens has been rated, by the managers, as the 6th best player in the division this season.

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    Roland knows best.
  • drewman
    drewman Posts: 1,104
    wmcf123 said:

    Simon Francis is now a premier league defender, so anything is possible

    Or maybe some Charlton fans just didn't recognise his talent?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    drewman said:

    wmcf123 said:

    Simon Francis is now a premier league defender, so anything is possible

    Or maybe some Charlton fans just didn't recognise his talent?
    Francis always got forward well and was / is a very good crosser of the ball. My only criticism at the time was that he got caught up field a lot and then struggled to get back. Good luck to him, Bournemouth fans love him.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    FishCostaFortune said:

    killerandflash said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.

    Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with us
    I agree they both did, and I think Buyens was actually quiet underrated by a lot of Charlton fans - however neither were the creative force in the middle of the park that Stephens was.
    Agree about Buyens. Would love to know how many assists Stephens made for us
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,944
    The Red Robin said:

    drewman said:

    wmcf123 said:

    Simon Francis is now a premier league defender, so anything is possible

    Or maybe some Charlton fans just didn't recognise his talent?
    Francis always got forward well and was / is a very good crosser of the ball. My only criticism at the time was that he got caught up field a lot and then struggled to get back. Good luck to him, Bournemouth fans love him.
    Yes but he now plays as a Centre back so his defending really can't be that bad..
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,811
    No Charlton players in the list?
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,800
    Thinking of Dale Stephens makes me think of what could have been and I'm very sad.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,136
    Dale Stephens certainly controlled the tempo of the game today and he may be one of the Brighton players who could cut it in the Premier League if they make it this season. He and Jordan Cousins were a very fine combination and the best we have had in recent years. Since he left, we have lacked a high quality creator in midfield and this has been an ongoing problem for the team over the last two and a half seasons.

    There must be someone out there in the lower leagues with this sort of potential for whom Charlton would be a big step up (just as it was for Stephens when he joined from Oldham). Unfortunately, however, we have neither the scouting and recruitment system to identify such players, nor the appetite or credibility to get deals over the line.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,778


    Thanks Roland.
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  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    To be fair he got slated by most on here. My mates included. I put this this down to them sitting in the Covered End and me in the East Stand. Different perspective etc.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    About £5m worth of wages as a minimum.
    I wonder if that has cured his homesickness ?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,177
    Glad to see he is enjoying life better since he moved back up north.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    edited May 2017
    I never really rated him that much....but I guess others might have.
    All I can say is he must have improved immensely to be voted the 6th best player of the season in The Championship......good luck to him I suppose.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Did we get any money for Brighton getting promotion?
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,171
    Always liked him. Very talented and could pick a pass. Was in the Millennium lounge last year when we played them as he was injured. Seemed a nice guy. All the best to him.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    he's a good midfielder .. not as good as but from a similar mould to Michael Carrick
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited May 2017
    EastTerrace said:

    To be fair he got slated by most on here. My mates included. I put this this down to them sitting in the Covered End and me in the East Stand. Different perspective etc.

    I put it down to us going every week and watching him play :-)

    PS He did improve immensely towards the end of his Charlton career ie the last season of 2.5 seasons and he's continued to improve since he left us.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,944
    Covered End said:

    EastTerrace said:

    To be fair he got slated by most on here. My mates included. I put this this down to them sitting in the Covered End and me in the East Stand. Different perspective etc.

    I put it down to us going every week and watching him play :-)

    PS He did improve immensely towards the end of his Charlton career ie the last season of 2.5 seasons and he's continued to improve since he left us.
    He was only 21 when he joined us. In 11/12 it was clear he had the potential to make the step up while for some of our CMs it wasn't the case. He had ups and downs and the team was largely struggling for the 2 years he played in the championship. But he improved and clearly had ability.
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,354
    Good luck to the guy, just shows what I know, I thought he is to slow although good on the ball, still he would say I'm an old soak so hope he does really well.

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