Who's going to stay/go when we go down(players)
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Some interesting thoughts, just to add to this:
Isn't there a maximum wage pool you can pay as a % of turnover in League 1? If so it will be as much around salary level as anything else. Turnover is dropping massively and therefore wages will need to also. Therefore those on championship wages unless they are prepared to renegotiate may well be parted out for that reason alone regardless of what fee we may get.
Even players like JJ, I don't know what he earns but it will be at the upper end of the squad.
I actually fear that outside of the young one's just having come through, almost all of the remainder will be disposed of and replaced with lower paid players......... as the old saying goes, pay peanuts you get........0 -
Empty peanut shells. And Roger Johnson.0
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Another thing to consider would the players on high wages want to leave? They may be happy to sit about doing nothing collecting their thousands per week, You can't force them to move to another RD club & if they refuse I foresee a situation where we end up with likes of Watt, Igor, Tex, Bergshit, Johnson, Cellebos & Ba being payed to do cock all and club refusing to play them.
Even if you payed up just these contracts you looking at a few million. Personally I'd be surprised if we got more then 3/4 million for JBG & Lookman, I don't think JBG good enough for Premiership and IMO has looked disinterested this season, Lookman is still so raw I'd be amazed if a premier club went higher then 1 mill for him I mean Gomez had represented England at youth level and was on premier clubs radar for a while and we only got 3 million for him!
We all know RD is just gonna pack the squad with free transfers from his other clubs and inexperienced youngsters from academy, it's going to be dreadful.1 -
Not to worry, you'll be at West Ham, won't you?3
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Don't think the issue is over whether they invest. They have spent plenty of money in the championship. However they spent it badly, with no direction and no joined up thinking about the bigger picture. This is because managers are seen as disposable and scouts as added extras.DessieValley said:
Wow, think you have sumarised very well. If they are not going to invest to makes us competetive in the Championship, there's no reason to think they will do it in league 1.Southbank said:
Completely agree. Roland's approach is to try to break even at the level you are at. It means that just as he would not invest to compete in the Championship he will not invest to compete for promotion in League One. when you add in the incompetence of the management team there is only way way, down.LargeAddick said:It will be kids and a mix of League 1 players signed on freebies. Anyone expecting anyone half decent to still be here is deluded.
We know enough about him not not to be under any illusions. He will kill the club if he stays.
Only hope is that the fear of bigger losses in league 1 or fall in value of the club force them to invest to get us out straight away. But I don't think they think like this.
As is said above you need the right players to get out of leave one.. The chances of this bunch bringing them in? None0 -
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Cousins 100% I've heard.
Quality player.0 -
Any player with a resale value will go.0
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come on people--said it enough !! this is Charlton expect to be disappointed--and you will be.0
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Goalkeepers
Stephen Henderson 2017 - won't play for us again.
Nick Pope 2018 - will be our L1 keeper.
Right Backs
Chris Solly 2017 - stays
Rod Fanni (on loan from Al Arabia until end of 2015/16 season) - goes
Marco Motta 2016 - goes
Centre Backs
Patrick Bauer 2019 - prob stays
Roger Johnson 2017 - stays but seldom plays (injured or shopping)
Naby Sarr 2020 - stays and doesn't improve.
Harry Lennon 2018 - Will be CB in L1
Jorge Teixeira 2020 - Will be ever-present CB in L1
Left Backs
Morgan Fox 2018 - stays and plays
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis 2018 - stays and seldom plays
Yun Suk-Young (on loan from QPR until end of 2015/16 season) - goes
Right Midfielders
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson 2019 - left in November 2015 and sent us a lookalike for the rest of this season
Central Midfielders
Diego Poyet (On loan from West Ham until end of 2015/16 season) - goes (then loaned to Gills)
Jordan Cousins 2019 - goes to Championship club (sadly)
Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option - stays and plays
Johnnie Jackson 2017 - stays and plays
Ahmed Kashi 2018 - stays and plays
El-Hadji Ba 2018 - goes
Cristian Ceballos 2018 - stays but seldom plays
Left Midfielders
Callum Harriott 2016 plus possible option - stays and plays
Zakarya Bergdich 2019 - stays and plays (badly)
Strikers
Ademola Lookman 2020 - goes (in Burnley team bus on the final day)
Simon Makienok (Loaned from Palermo until end of 2015/16 season) - goes (bangs head on exit door)
Reza Ghoochannejhad 2016 - goes (and nobody notices)
Igor Vetokele 2019 - walks free to a Championship club.
Karlan Ahearne-Grant 2017 plus 1 year option - stays and seldom plays
Tony Watt 2018 (Loaned to Blackburn Rovers until end of 2015/6 season) - already gone
George Tucudean 2017 (On loan to ASA Tirgu Mures of Romania Not Confirmed) - never comes back
Yaya Sonogo (On loan from Arsenal until end of 2015/16 season) - goes (sadly)
We need 8 or 10 new players - and we don't even have a chief scout, so we will end up with another ragbag of odds and ends. L2 beckons.1 -
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Fixed it for youValiantphil said:Goalkeepers
Stephen Henderson 2017 - won't play for us again. Obviously should be retained but effectively already wrongfully dismissed
Nick Pope 2018 - will be our L1 keeper. Much improved, worth retaining but will be sold to the first bidder
Dimitar Mitov - L1 bench warmer until NP gets injured, suspended or sold
Right Backs
Chris Solly 2017 - stays but effectively already wrongfully dismissed, sorry 'to be sold for an undisclosed fee'
Rod Fanni (on loan from Al Arabia until end of 2015/16 season) - goes
Marco Motta 2016 - goes
Centre Backs
Patrick Bauer 2019 - prob stays but only if he's not fit enough to be sold to the first bidder by 31 August
Roger Johnson 2017 - stays but seldom plays (injured or shopping), probably paid off
Naby Sarr 2020 - stays and doesn't improve - hopefully loaned out (to Vanarama South at best)
Harry Lennon 2018 - Will be CB in L1 - until any offer is received
Jorge Teixeira 2020 - Will be ever-present CB in L1 - until any offer is received
Left Backs
Morgan Fox 2018 - stays and plays - which will be keeping all of us awake at nights for another year
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis 2018 - stays and seldom plays, unless we're short of wingers or right-backs cos the minimum number of players hopelessly out of position ,ust be retained in the starting 11
Yun Suk-Young (on loan from QPR until end of 2015/16 season) - goes
Right Midfielders
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson 2019 - left in November 2015 and sent us a lookalike for the rest of this season, the doppelganger will be given away - sorry transfered for "an undisclosed fee"
Central Midfielders
Diego Poyet (On loan from West Ham until end of 2015/16 season) - goes (then loaned to Gills)
Jordan Cousins 2019 - goes to Championship club (sadly), for an undiscloesd fee
Alou Diarra 2016 plus one year option - stays and plays, if he accepts a 66% reduction in his salary
Johnnie Jackson 2017 - stays and plays - will be given away - sorry transfered for "an undisclosed fee"
Ahmed Kashi 2018 - stays and plays but only if he's not fit enough to be sold to the first bidder by 31 August
El-Hadji Ba 2018 - should go because he's nearly as bad as Sarr but will be retained
Cristian Ceballos 2018 - stays but seldom plays unless the squad is down to 11 professionals
Left Midfielders
Callum Harriott 2016 plus possible option - stays and plays until a bid is received
Zakarya Bergdich 2019 - stays and plays (badly) keeping as all awake at night for another year
Strikers
Ademola Lookman 2020 - goes (in Burnley team bus on the final day) for the obvious undisclosed fee
Simon Makienok (Loaned from Palermo until end of 2015/16 season) - goes (bangs head on exit door)
Reza Ghoochannejhad 2016 - goes (and nobody notices)
Igor Vetokele 2019 - walks free to a Championship club.
Karlan Ahearne-Grant 2017 plus 1 year option - stays and plays every game, because the squad is so light, then sold to first bidder
Tony Watt 2018 (Loaned to Blackburn Rovers until end of 2015/6 season) - already gone, unless he's still injured on 31 August
George Tucudean 2017 (On loan to ASA Tirgu Mures of Romania Not Confirmed) - never comes back, contract 'cancelled by mutual consent' i.e. paid up in full
Yaya Sonogo (On loan from Arsenal until end of 2015/16 season) - goes (sadly)
We need 18 or 20 new players - and we don't even have a chief scout, so we will end up with another ragbag of odds and ends. L2 beckons.
Down to L2 with the xmas decorations
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