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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Gareth Southgate or David Platt.

    My own personal choice would be Jim Fallon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fallon_(footballer)
    A record that the Belgians simply can't ignore.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,532
    ricky_otto said:

    Gareth Southgate or David Platt.

    My own personal choice would be Jim Fallon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fallon_(footballer)
    A record that the Belgians simply can't ignore.

    For worst manager? Southgate isn't a world beater, but he seems to quietly be doing a decent job with the U-21s. He's clearly someone who thinks about the game a lot. I'll be curious to see how he does in the Toulan Tournament next week, contrasted with Aidy Boothroyd's (great shout for "worst potential) side last year who were awful. Actually, that's not fair, they were just an Aidy Boothroyd side. I think we could do a lot worse than Southgate, though he wouldn't leave his role at the FA.

    As for David Platt, I know his record as a manager isn't great, but he was a coach under Mancini at Man City and by all accounts did a very good job. He was essentially the assistant manager (I think it was officially Brian Kidd but his was a more ambassadorial role), and did a lot of work on the training field. In "The Italian Job" by Gianluca Vialli and Grabiele Marcotti, Platt speaks very articulately about his time in Italy and England, the cultural and coaching differences, and what he learned. I actually think he'd be a very good shout for head coach (which, let's be honest, is what we're going to get regardless of their official title). He played in Serie A when it was arguably the best league in the world, and has won the Premier League as a coach.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    SDAddick said:

    ricky_otto said:

    Gareth Southgate or David Platt.

    My own personal choice would be Jim Fallon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fallon_(footballer)
    A record that the Belgians simply can't ignore.

    For worst manager? Southgate isn't a world beater, but he seems to quietly be doing a decent job with the U-21s. He's clearly someone who thinks about the game a lot. I'll be curious to see how he does in the Toulan Tournament next week, contrasted with Aidy Boothroyd's (great shout for "worst potential) side last year who were awful. Actually, that's not fair, they were just an Aidy Boothroyd side. I think we could do a lot worse than Southgate, though he wouldn't leave his role at the FA.

    As for David Platt, I know his record as a manager isn't great, but he was a coach under Mancini at Man City and by all accounts did a very good job. He was essentially the assistant manager (I think it was officially Brian Kidd but his was a more ambassadorial role), and did a lot of work on the training field. In "The Italian Job" by Gianluca Vialli and Grabiele Marcotti, Platt speaks very articulately about his time in Italy and England, the cultural and coaching differences, and what he learned. I actually think he'd be a very good shout for head coach (which, let's be honest, is what we're going to get regardless of their official title). He played in Serie A when it was arguably the best league in the world, and has won the Premier League as a coach.
    Yes Gareth Southgate and David Platt.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    ricky_otto said:

    SDAddick said:

    ricky_otto said:

    Gareth Southgate or David Platt.

    My own personal choice would be Jim Fallon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fallon_(footballer)
    A record that the Belgians simply can't ignore.

    For worst manager? Southgate isn't a world beater, but he seems to quietly be doing a decent job with the U-21s. He's clearly someone who thinks about the game a lot. I'll be curious to see how he does in the Toulan Tournament next week, contrasted with Aidy Boothroyd's (great shout for "worst potential) side last year who were awful. Actually, that's not fair, they were just an Aidy Boothroyd side. I think we could do a lot worse than Southgate, though he wouldn't leave his role at the FA.

    As for David Platt, I know his record as a manager isn't great, but he was a coach under Mancini at Man City and by all accounts did a very good job. He was essentially the assistant manager (I think it was officially Brian Kidd but his was a more ambassadorial role), and did a lot of work on the training field. In "The Italian Job" by Gianluca Vialli and Grabiele Marcotti, Platt speaks very articulately about his time in Italy and England, the cultural and coaching differences, and what he learned. I actually think he'd be a very good shout for head coach (which, let's be honest, is what we're going to get regardless of their official title). He played in Serie A when it was arguably the best league in the world, and has won the Premier League as a coach.
    Yes Gareth Southgate and David Platt.
    David Platt would be amusing. KM appoints a kerb crawler.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    smudge7946 said:

    ricky_otto said:

    SDAddick said:

    ricky_otto said:

    Gareth Southgate or David Platt.

    My own personal choice would be Jim Fallon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fallon_(footballer)
    A record that the Belgians simply can't ignore.

    For worst manager? Southgate isn't a world beater, but he seems to quietly be doing a decent job with the U-21s. He's clearly someone who thinks about the game a lot. I'll be curious to see how he does in the Toulan Tournament next week, contrasted with Aidy Boothroyd's (great shout for "worst potential) side last year who were awful. Actually, that's not fair, they were just an Aidy Boothroyd side. I think we could do a lot worse than Southgate, though he wouldn't leave his role at the FA.

    As for David Platt, I know his record as a manager isn't great, but he was a coach under Mancini at Man City and by all accounts did a very good job. He was essentially the assistant manager (I think it was officially Brian Kidd but his was a more ambassadorial role), and did a lot of work on the training field. In "The Italian Job" by Gianluca Vialli and Grabiele Marcotti, Platt speaks very articulately about his time in Italy and England, the cultural and coaching differences, and what he learned. I actually think he'd be a very good shout for head coach (which, let's be honest, is what we're going to get regardless of their official title). He played in Serie A when it was arguably the best league in the world, and has won the Premier League as a coach.
    Yes Gareth Southgate and David Platt.
    David Platt would be amusing. KM appoints a kerb crawler.
    Although that might have been David Pleat.
    I should probably throw in an allegedly as well.
  • objectivecafc
    objectivecafc Posts: 679
    Starinnaddick said:

    Paul Ince ?

    Why would she hire him for a bunch of racists like us?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    smudge7946 said:

    smudge7946 said:

    ricky_otto said:

    SDAddick said:

    ricky_otto said:

    Gareth Southgate or David Platt.

    My own personal choice would be Jim Fallon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fallon_(footballer)
    A record that the Belgians simply can't ignore.

    For worst manager? Southgate isn't a world beater, but he seems to quietly be doing a decent job with the U-21s. He's clearly someone who thinks about the game a lot. I'll be curious to see how he does in the Toulan Tournament next week, contrasted with Aidy Boothroyd's (great shout for "worst potential) side last year who were awful. Actually, that's not fair, they were just an Aidy Boothroyd side. I think we could do a lot worse than Southgate, though he wouldn't leave his role at the FA.

    As for David Platt, I know his record as a manager isn't great, but he was a coach under Mancini at Man City and by all accounts did a very good job. He was essentially the assistant manager (I think it was officially Brian Kidd but his was a more ambassadorial role), and did a lot of work on the training field. In "The Italian Job" by Gianluca Vialli and Grabiele Marcotti, Platt speaks very articulately about his time in Italy and England, the cultural and coaching differences, and what he learned. I actually think he'd be a very good shout for head coach (which, let's be honest, is what we're going to get regardless of their official title). He played in Serie A when it was arguably the best league in the world, and has won the Premier League as a coach.
    Yes Gareth Southgate and David Platt.
    David Platt would be amusing. KM appoints a kerb crawler.
    Although that might have been David Pleat.
    I should probably throw in an allegedly as well.
    It was indeed David Pleat - allegedly.
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,300
    ...and so the fruitless search to find to Britain's worst manager ticks over into another day.

    Meanwhile, in an all-inclusive 3* hotel somewhere on the Dalmatian coast Nobby Vinegar wanders back up to the breakfast buffet wearing flip flops, budgie smugglers and a wry smile...
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,323
    objectivecafc said:

    Starinnaddick said:

    Paul Ince ?

    Why would she hire him for a bunch of racists like us?
    Yeah he'd be forever going on that he only got the job because he's black.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,394
    objectivecafc said:

    Starinnaddick said:

    Paul Ince ?

    Why would she hire him for a bunch of racists like us?
    This thread is for the worst British manager we could appoint .

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  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,948
    Holloway would finish me off.

    I would go for someone like Jacko with a Lennie to lean on, if Jacko is willing to retire from playing. Got to get rid of nightmaire first though.
  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    thewolfboy said:

    Holloway would finish me off.

    A proper hands on manager.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    edited May 2016
    To be honest, if backed, Clark or Holloway would probably get us up even though they would be well down any list I drew up - the problem is more in the backing really. I would like to see Nigel Pearson get the job.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited May 2016
    thewolfboy said:

    Holloway would finish me off.

    Whatever turns you on :wink:
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    thewolfboy said:

    Holloway would finish me off.

    I would go for someone like Jacko with a Lennie to lean on, if Jacko is willing to retire from playing. Got to get rid of nightmaire first though.

    Any Lennie? We're likely to end up with Henry or Bennett rather that Lawrence.
  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    SDAddick said:

    ricky_otto said:

    Gareth Southgate or David Platt.

    My own personal choice would be Jim Fallon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fallon_(footballer)
    A record that the Belgians simply can't ignore.

    For worst manager? Southgate isn't a world beater, but he seems to quietly be doing a decent job with the U-21s. He's clearly someone who thinks about the game a lot. I'll be curious to see how he does in the Toulan Tournament next week, contrasted with Aidy Boothroyd's (great shout for "worst potential) side last year who were awful. Actually, that's not fair, they were just an Aidy Boothroyd side. I think we could do a lot worse than Southgate, though he wouldn't leave his role at the FA.

    As for David Platt, I know his record as a manager isn't great, but he was a coach under Mancini at Man City and by all accounts did a very good job. He was essentially the assistant manager (I think it was officially Brian Kidd but his was a more ambassadorial role), and did a lot of work on the training field. In "The Italian Job" by Gianluca Vialli and Grabiele Marcotti, Platt speaks very articulately about his time in Italy and England, the cultural and coaching differences, and what he learned. I actually think he'd be a very good shout for head coach (which, let's be honest, is what we're going to get regardless of their official title). He played in Serie A when it was arguably the best league in the world, and has won the Premier League as a coach.
    All that I need to know about David Platt as a manager are two things:

    1) As England U-21 Manager he regularly picked David Prutton of his own Notts Forest team, over our very own Scotty Parker - a look at the two players careers since then, ought to tell you all you need to know about that piece of judgement.

    2) As Forest manager he had an absolute fortune to spend, and yet produced nothing but below average teams, that came nowhere near getting them up into the PL.

    A definite no from me.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,872
    Terry Butcher
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,532
    Tony Adams
    Alan Shearer
    Gary Neville
    Phil Neville
    Kevin Keegan

    List of managers who would be great fun and almost certainly loveable no matter what:
    Kevin Keegan

    I'm torn on Stuart Pearce
  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    I love Stuart Pearce as a bloke and as an ex-player , but as a manager he is one dimensional.

    The Kuwaiti's gave him every chance to succeed at Forest, and he couldn't manage it.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,532
    Basically my feelings on him

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  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    Such a shame as he is supposed to be a top, top bloke.

    Unfortunately to be a sucessful manager, I think that you have to have a bit of 'mongrel' in you, basically be prepared to be a bit of a cunt sometimes, and not worry about the consequences.

    Despite his reputation as a player, I am not sure Stuart Pearce is that kind of man.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,301
    Dave Hockaday
  • johnnyhumphrey
    johnnyhumphrey Posts: 449
    Paul Sturrock.
  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041
    Steve Coppell? He's experienced and out of work, I think.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    To be honest, I'd rather appoint Lee Clark now than a better manager in a month - this is an incredibly important time, as there is a lot of work and prep to be done!
  • ashley
    ashley Posts: 531
    John Gregory would be superb for us
  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/may/04/sportfeatures.footballmanagers

    This makes me think some crazy non British nutters could also qualify for this thread.

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