Meire At Telegraph Event - Business Of Sport
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Some of the comments that have been made on social media and on here are abusive, and there's no excusing that. Sexist and offensive language should be condemned no matter who it is targeted at and most people on here do recognise that. Jim and others are right to highlight that there is that element publicly making such abuse; to ignore it is not correct or ethical.
It is also regrettable that her family and hometown has also been dragged into this. Again, it detracts from the central issues.
But she really could not have picked a nicer group of fans to mess with. It won't get any worse than this. Compare what has happened over the past 2 years to what we saw at Upton Park and Man Utd's coach - those fans weren't even annoyed, that's just what West Ham's fans, and plenty of other club's fans, do! Could you imagine what hell she would be going through if she was doing to West Ham what she is doing to Charlton? Or any other club with a less than savoury reputation? She is right that the action levelled at her directly isn't normal - but only because it is so restrained.45 -
Why does Katrien blame everyone else but herself?4
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It was made clear to her today that Charlton fans arent known for this behaviour.Fiiish said:Some of the comments that have been made on social media and on here are abusive, and there's no excusing that. Sexist and offensive language should be condemned no matter who it is targeted at and most people on here do recognise that. Jim and others are right to highlight that there is that element publicly making such abuse; to ignore it is not correct or ethical.
It is also regrettable that her family and hometown has also been dragged into this. Again, it detracts from the central issues.
But she really could not have picked a nicer group of fans to mess with. It won't get any worse than this. Compare what has happened over the past 2 years to what we saw at Upton Park and Man Utd's coach - those fans weren't even annoyed, that's just what West Ham's fans, and plenty of other club's fans, do! Could you imagine what hell she would be going through if she was doing to West Ham what she is doing to Charlton? Or any other club with a less than savoury reputation? She is right that the action levelled at her directly isn't normal - but only because it is so restrained.16 -
MFiiish said:Some of the comments that have been made on social media and on here are abusive, and there's no excusing that. Sexist and offensive language should be condemned no matter who it is targeted at and most people on here do recognise that. Jim and others are right to highlight that there is that element publicly making such abuse; to ignore it is not correct or ethical.
It is also regrettable that her family and hometown has also been dragged into this. Again, it detracts from the central issues.
But she really could not have picked a nicer group of fans to mess with. It won't get any worse than this. Compare what has happened over the past 2 years to what we saw at Upton Park and Man Utd's coach - those fans weren't even annoyed, that's just what West Ham's fans, and plenty of other club's fans, do! Could you imagine what hell she would be going through if she was doing to West Ham what she is doing to Charlton? Or any other club with a less than savoury reputation? She is right that the action levelled at her directly isn't normal - but only because it is so restrained.
Unfortunately they've picked up on the picketing of the parents house. That's the only thing they say is a bit wrong. Which is I agree.
I hope the press see it's just as many women that are upset with how useless she has been.
I was proud the day it was announced we had a woman CEO. That wore off about a year later.
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"Speaking to her later, however, there was one point Meire raised that cannot be gainsaid. She suggested that she was keen to engage with the club’s supporters, but was finding it impossible to do so because in English football increasingly it is the owner who carries the can for events on the field. And, as Mike Ashley and Randy Lerner would concur, for the club owner, the gap with the supporters can become unbreachable very, very quickly."
Does anyone know how to contact this guy (beyond Twitter, which I don't use).
I understand what's said here, but she's misrepresenting what she has told us. She says she wants a dialog, but she's told us Roland makes all the decisions. So why would we want to talk to her - she's no more than a glorified office administrator if we take her at face value. However, if she does have decision making power, she's refusing to own up to HER mistakes, hiding behind Roland.
You can't have it both ways. To change the direction of the club, it needs dialog with the decision maker, not his message taker.9 -
stonemuse said:
Let's hope soHenry Irving said:She keeps saying she wants to meet with fans but not the organised groups but then doesn't.
I think she will be as shocked as Lucky Reds when she reads the SLP story.
Can't guarantee it was yesterday it was scrubbed. I did post and ask people yesterday if their google searches on 'Katrin Meire' looked a lot cleaner than over recent months.cantersaddick said:
Is this true? Did she do that?Alwaysneil said:Well she will now need to go and contact Google again to have more articles removed from the search history.
Guardian and telegraph articles come up now after it was scrubbed yesterday.
Guessing this has been posted elsewhere and I have missed it.
Couple of people looked other than me and agreed they did. Before today it was pretty clean, back to where it was 3 months ago.
Then after today it was rotten again.
There is no doubt that the EU ruling that allows individuals to petition to have search items removed if they meet certain criteria is being used extensively.1 -
It was in the Katrien Meire thread, and whilst it certainly wasn't pristine - it was cleaner.Alwaysneil said:stonemuse said:
Let's hope soHenry Irving said:She keeps saying she wants to meet with fans but not the organised groups but then doesn't.
I think she will be as shocked as Lucky Reds when she reads the SLP story.
Can't guarantee it was yesterday it was scrubbed. I did post and ask people yesterday if their google searches on 'Katrin Meire' looked a lot cleaner than over recent months.cantersaddick said:
Is this true? Did she do that?Alwaysneil said:Well she will now need to go and contact Google again to have more articles removed from the search history.
Guardian and telegraph articles come up now after it was scrubbed yesterday.
Guessing this has been posted elsewhere and I have missed it.
Couple of people looked other than me and agreed they did. Before today it was pretty clean, back to where it was 3 months ago.
Then after today it was rotten again.
There is no doubt that the EU ruling that allows individuals to petition to have search items removed if they meet certain criteria is being used extensively.
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She's suggesting that putting X amount of money into a club should be praised.
Roland is the richest owner we've ever had. He bought the club to take on its responsibilities.
I'd rather he just walked away and pulled the plug...no one gets paid for a few months maybe?. There are a lot of people out there that would save us and rectify that problem. We are a big club.
We don't want your money. Your useless with it anyway.1 -
The longer Roland continues his -ahem- "generosity", the more debt we accrue* and the bigger a liability it is to sell on to a new owner who cares.Dave2l said:She's suggesting that putting X amount of money into a club should be praised.
Roland is the richest owner we've ever had. He bought the club to take on its responsibilities.
I'd rather he just walked away and pulled the plug...no one gets paid for a few months maybe?. There are a lot of people out there that would save us and rectify that problem. We are a big club.
We don't want your money. Your useless with it anyway.
*that's something else that was mentioned today.0 -
Just wanted to add another point - it's not like they turned up and we were immediately slating them. Indeed in the grand scheme of things even the spell it out campaign wasn't that long ago. There are threads on there from early in their tenure saying positive things about KM (not unanimous though).
What I'm trying to say is, any sane person would see that we gave them a chance - of course regardless of gender or nationality. It is only since things have become more and more obviously badly run that the protests have ramped up - doesn't that tell you something?6 -
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Has been a farce since the Luzon appointment.jams said:Just wanted to add another point - it's not like they turned up and we were immediately slating them. Indeed in the grand scheme of things even the spell it out campaign wasn't that long ago. There are threads on there from early in their tenure saying positive things about KM (not unanimous though).
What I'm trying to say is, any sane person would see that we gave them a chance - of course regardless of gender or nationality. It is only since things have become more and more obviously badly run that the protests have ramped up - doesn't that tell you something?0 -
She is upset the football authorities haven't stepped in to protect her from us. We are even more upset they haven't stepped in to protect us from her and her master!mogodonman said:Back to her initial point before the blame game set in. Why should the football authorities step in because fans are protesting. Why should she warrant special treatment? The implication is clearly because she is a woman.
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The FA and The Football League's silence on the disruption or the nothing is wrong scenario (Shaun Harvey CEO of the FL after the Burnley game) is amazing. It's like if they ignore it, then it will disappear. When Meire is calling them out, you knew that they are incompetent.MuttleyCAFC said:
She is upset the football authorities haven't stepped in to protect her from us. We are even more upset they haven't stepped in to protect us from her and her master!mogodonman said:Back to her initial point before the blame game set in. Why should the football authorities step in because fans are protesting. Why should she warrant special treatment? The implication is clearly because she is a woman.
It won't disappear unless they sell up. The FA and The Football League are not fit for purpose.0 -
Love she is calling for more fan engagement but not with organised groups. Fine use the biggest lounge you have at The Valley, set the date and put tickets on the website for those who would like to attend, What is stopping her?
Won't happen, it's what she does in all the 30 months talks about things needing to change, and nowt happens1 -
So Mums have stopped bringing the kids to Charlton. Is that the Charlton that advertises a couple having sex on the pitch?
KM you really are a hypocrite and useless.19 -
She couldn't fill a doughnut with jam.McBobbin said:She doesn't fill me with confidence
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Steady on. I used to do that and it is not easy as it seems.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
She couldn't fill a doughnut with jam.McBobbin said:She doesn't fill me with confidence
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Something I've always wondered - does the jam go in before or after the deep frying?kentred2 said:
Steady on. I used to do that and it is not easy as it seems.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
She couldn't fill a doughnut with jam.McBobbin said:She doesn't fill me with confidence
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After when doughnut warm. Timingcafcfan said:
Something I've always wondered - does the jam go in before or after the deep frying?kentred2 said:
Steady on. I used to do that and it is not easy as it seems.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
She couldn't fill a doughnut with jam.McBobbin said:She doesn't fill me with confidence
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This is the kind of content I come to CL for. Thanks.kentred2 said:
After when doughnut warm. Timingcafcfan said:
Something I've always wondered - does the jam go in before or after the deep frying?kentred2 said:
Steady on. I used to do that and it is not easy as it seems.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
She couldn't fill a doughnut with jam.McBobbin said:She doesn't fill me with confidence
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Make sure you send her flowers with her doughnuts!cafcfan said:
Something I've always wondered - does the jam go in before or after the deep frying?kentred2 said:
Steady on. I used to do that and it is not easy as it seems.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
She couldn't fill a doughnut with jam.McBobbin said:She doesn't fill me with confidence
Oh and good luck with the jam!0 -
Try the ones that don't have a hole in the middle.kentred2 said:
Steady on. I used to do that and it is not easy as it seems.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
She couldn't fill a doughnut with jam.McBobbin said:She doesn't fill me with confidence
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I have just caught up with this as out last night, but I can't believe that she dares to mention as the positives of their tenure: affordable season tickets; the well-established and respected academy; and the investment in the community! Call me insane but we had all of those things pre RD! How dare she claim any responsibility for those 3 things. Do they actually have any financial input in CACT?
Why can't she also claim responsibility for having cut the staff at the valley to a skeleton with 10 key vacancies at present; or having filled the playing squad with inadequate players; or having isolated and ignored the fanbase to the point of revolt? No, because that involves her accepting how far out of her depth she really is!
If fans are against her, why should the FA help her and not investigate why the otherwise placid fans are protesting? She lost that right as the media expose her for what she is...5 -
Classic Squirrel Face. Trot out the same facts about millions invested, academy, season-tickets etc but ignore dismal on-field performances (and resulting appalling season-ticket renewals) and relegation, chaos behind the scenes, furious customers/fans. The picked-on woman card she continues to play is a smokescreen to hide the glaring failures in so many areas.2
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Here performance at the conference has been picked up by Martin Samuel intthe Mail today2
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Fair cop, CharltonJohnnyH2 said:Here performance at the conference has been picked up by Martin Samuel intthe Mail today
It demonstrates the disarray at Charlton this season that when Jose Riga quit as manager after the last game, the official club Twitter account announced he had left his ‘poison’ not his ‘position’.
To be fair, Charlton have been in a septic state for a while now.
Meanwhile, Katrien Meire, Charlton chief executive, addressed a business of sport conference on the subject of proper governance this week and claimed the media were largely to blame for the fractious relationship between owners and fans.
Meire said the press concentrated too much on the disharmony, and not enough on the football.
As Charlton failed to win 37 of 46 matches this season, and were relegated nine points adrift of Rotherham, they were going to cop it either way.
Indeed, one might say that the issues were related, fan protests rarely taking place when a team are top of the league, or even improving.
If Meire needs that simple truth explaining, sporting governance might not actually be her thing. The world will always need plumbers.
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'If Meire needs that simple truth explaining, sporting governance might not actually be her thing.'
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Sod that, I wouldn't want her coming round and flooding my kitchen.shirty5 said:
Fair cop, CharltonJohnnyH2 said:Here performance at the conference has been picked up by Martin Samuel intthe Mail today
It demonstrates the disarray at Charlton this season that when Jose Riga quit as manager after the last game, the official club Twitter account announced he had left his ‘poison’ not his ‘position’.
To be fair, Charlton have been in a septic state for a while now.
Meanwhile, Katrien Meire, Charlton chief executive, addressed a business of sport conference on the subject of proper governance this week and claimed the media were largely to blame for the fractious relationship between owners and fans.
Meire said the press concentrated too much on the disharmony, and not enough on the football.
As Charlton failed to win 37 of 46 matches this season, and were relegated nine points adrift of Rotherham, they were going to cop it either way.
Indeed, one might say that the issues were related, fan protests rarely taking place when a team are top of the league, or even improving.
If Meire needs that simple truth explaining, sporting governance might not actually be her thing. The world will always need plumbers.5 -
Bloody media and their perception!0
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She'd turn up late, blame someone else for the leak and then leave halfway through the job before issuing a press statement that it had always been your intention to flood your kitchen.cafcfan said:
Sod that, I wouldn't want her coming round and flooding my kitchen.shirty5 said:
Fair cop, CharltonJohnnyH2 said:Here performance at the conference has been picked up by Martin Samuel intthe Mail today
It demonstrates the disarray at Charlton this season that when Jose Riga quit as manager after the last game, the official club Twitter account announced he had left his ‘poison’ not his ‘position’.
To be fair, Charlton have been in a septic state for a while now.
Meanwhile, Katrien Meire, Charlton chief executive, addressed a business of sport conference on the subject of proper governance this week and claimed the media were largely to blame for the fractious relationship between owners and fans.
Meire said the press concentrated too much on the disharmony, and not enough on the football.
As Charlton failed to win 37 of 46 matches this season, and were relegated nine points adrift of Rotherham, they were going to cop it either way.
Indeed, one might say that the issues were related, fan protests rarely taking place when a team are top of the league, or even improving.
If Meire needs that simple truth explaining, sporting governance might not actually be her thing. The world will always need plumbers.17
