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Slade says we only need squad of 22

TellyTubby
TellyTubby Posts: 3,559
in General Charlton
Seems to have signed up to the Roland way in short order.

Now what are those relegation odds?

http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=118368
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,938
    He might think that 22 is enough. But, as he will find out, when half your squad is made up of players out of contract because they have a history of injury, it will be a struggle to fill the bench. It's also one of the reasons we used 37 players last season. Leicester, by comparison, had no less than 11 players who played in at least 30 of their 38 League games last season.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,826
    I think he said 22-25, but he's, sounded a bit thin to me.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited June 2016
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  • HantsAddick
    HantsAddick Posts: 2,423
    Didn't take him long to adapt to RD's way of thinking.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,871
    depends who the 22 are !
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,559
    Alwaysneil said:

    I think he said 22-25, but he's, sounded a bit thin to me.

    Yes I picked the lower figure to make a point but the fact that he said it at all worries me.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,517
    Two for every position plus a few on top (he did say 22-25). Fine if you do a good job at keeping players fit, sign the right players (not injury prone, have played plenty of games in previous season etc), have a proper pre-season (not sure we did last year) and any youngsters included in that actually are ready to step up. Even more important from now on as you can't bring in short term loans.

    It'll be interesting to compare our squad come September with our squad at the same time when we won League One. Powell signed a lot of players and was still allowed to bring in in Cort near the end of the window and Yann on a free just after it closed.

    Turned out Morrison and Taylor stayed fit so Cort only really played towards the end of the season. We needed that cover though with Doherty being the other CB. Yann of course was the player that made the difference, turned us from promotion contenders to title winners.

    Can you imagine RD allowing that? He'd rather keep the squad small and save money. You can always sign players in January and we have a couple of u21s who play in the position we need.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,918
    Elthamaddick said:

    depends who the 22 are !

    At least half with be youngsters
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,423
    We know Roland believes he can re-invent the way to run a club successfully, so assume the small squad approach comes from him, even though his own lickspittles insist that it was injuries and lack of fit cover that did for us last season. Given that some of those who will remain will be the very same who failed us last season, this doesn't bode well.

    I really hope this is what Slade believes and not what he has been told to believe.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,816
    AFKABartram said:

    Elthamaddick said:

    depends who the 22 are !

    At least half with be youngsters

    You can't win anything with kids.

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  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,687
    In today's game a squad of only 22 seems a bit lightweight but I have to admit I'm always uncomfortable with the large squads we have had in recent years because it doesn't give a core team a chance to develop and consistency goes out the window (unless, as in charlton's case, it's consistently losing).
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    guinnessaddick said:

    AFKABartram said:

    Elthamaddick said:

    depends who the 22 are !

    At least half with be youngsters

    You can't win anything with kids.
    I hope he's not getting ready to speak to the kids in this photo.


  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,815
    Well it's an improvement on Fraeyes 11.
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,428
    The link below shows how many each league one team used last season.
    Promoted sides burton, Wigan and Barnsley used 25,36 & 36 respectively.
    The other 3 play off teams 24, 29 & 30.
    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/eingesetztespieler/wettbewerb/GB3/saison_id/2015/filter/alle/plus/1#ath
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  • Eynsfordaddick
    Eynsfordaddick Posts: 2,045
    Good to start with a positive, Russell! No doubt our best players will be off-loaded and the academy have to cope.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,569
    Brussels Slade.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    If we get 22 points I will be pleased .
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,815
    If only Slade had used 22 players last season and not the 35 that he did. Might have finished higher than 8th....
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,202
    As @Scoham has implied, you can get away with 22 if they are good enough and if the backroom medical and fitness team is superior to those of the other clubs. All the evidence points the other way.

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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,209
    paulbaconsarnie said:

    The link below shows how many each league one team used last season.
    Promoted sides burton, Wigan and Barnsley used 25,36 & 36 respectively.
    The other 3 play off teams 24, 29 & 30.
    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/eingesetztespieler/wettbewerb/GB3/saison_id/2015/filter/alle/plus/1#ath

    It would be interesting to know though what the squad sizes were at any one time. Presumably a number of those individuals were loans and some short-term loans?

    Does Brussel know that there's no emergency loan system next season I wonder?

    As others have said, there are 22 players and then there are 22 Charlton players. Including the likes of Jackson, Solly and Diarra in a squad and expecting them to do a full season would be very risky indeed.

    You'd really have to treat them as bonus features rather than the actual box set.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,013
    Is the first ' let's slag the manager thread' in disguise? Concentrate the negativity on the owners. We are lucky in our position to have a manager of this calibre so cut him some slack. Let's make him welcome.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,838
    edited June 2016
    Shock horror. New regime manager singing from the regime's hymn sheet.

    I don't expect to hear or read one excuse for bad results or poor form put down to injuries or lack of squad depth as we march our way back to the glory land of the championship.

    Murray bemoaned the "bad luck" of injuries and foreign players taking time to bed in defence of abysmal runs so I'm sure they've learned their lessons and know what they are doing entering a gruelling, ultra physical campaign with a squad that could fit comfortably in a ford capri.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,838
    edited June 2016
    Double post such was my outrage
  • addick1965
    addick1965 Posts: 5,092
    He's not been here a week and he's been Rolandized already. :(
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,815
    PragueAddick said:

    As @Scoham has implied, you can get away with 22 if they are good enough and if the backroom medical and fitness team is superior to those of the other clubs.

    I would argue even then it would be very difficult especially towards the back end of a season when fatigue and injuries begin to take their toll.

    Also won't it just limit our options and the way can play? What happens if one player losses form and his replacement picks up an injury. Will we have enough personal to change shape or cover that position.

    Be interesting to know Slades squad sizes when he managed Orient. If there were that small before then maybe he knows that he could be successful and this is coming from him and not the clowns upstairs.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    colin1961 said:

    22 is large enough any manager wants two players for each position plus young players got to be careful not to block the path to the first team for our young players of which 3/4 will become first team players this season

    Which 3 or 4?
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,590
    Around 22 players would be fine if you have a owner that will back you in the loan market like CP had in 2011/12, Brussell will learn he does not have that.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    colin1961 said:

    22 is large enough any manager wants two players for each position plus young players got to be careful not to block the path to the first team for our young players of which 3/4 will become first team players this season

    Think you're right - i'm sure we wont get any injuries or suspensions throughout the season.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    seth plum said:

    colin1961 said:

    22 is large enough any manager wants two players for each position plus young players got to be careful not to block the path to the first team for our young players of which 3/4 will become first team players this season

    Which 3 or 4?
    I think he means 3/4 of a player.

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