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Varney takeover to move Charlton from The Valley (Meire's claims - Varney goes on attack)

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  • Mackle
    Mackle Posts: 444
    seth plum said:

    She will like as not brazen it out. There is a certain irony that she instructed a top London law firm regarding 'resigngate' (© Frank Bruno) which has got nowhere but her personal indignation setting was on high. Katrien will surely have empathy for a person getting publically dissed as Peter Varney has been.
    Varney's law firm can rule out Frank Bruno as a suspect.

    @LouisMend really pulled a rabbit out of a hat getting Frank Bruno on Charlton Live to discuss #resigngate

    It even eclipsed @KillersBeard interviewing legends during the Upbeats walk!
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    This Varney geezer sounds like he is all hot air, not sure I want him owning the club.

    "Varny Out"

    I will post details on here tomorrow of a paypal account where you donate towards C.A.V.E.

    Coalition Against Varney Enterprises.

    :smile: Only joking Pete, don't sue me.
  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited June 2016
    Nightmeire's words might seem like a crime to us, but how easy would it be in a court of law to prove that saying someone's proposed buyout would move a club to a different ground nearby constituted defamation or some other form of significant injury to business reputation or whatever? Would PV's potential buyers want to come to court as witnesses for him and assert that they never had any such intention?

    He has a right to be offended and outraged, but I don't understand how he can do much about it.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,200

    Surely the ultimate embarrassment for Katrien Meire? A lawyer, being sued for yet another public lie. She's done well to beat Michael Slater as the worst lawyer to run Charlton. How is her position remotely tenable? Sack her Roland.

    I've come to the conclusion that we often over-state Meire's credentials by calling her a lawyer.

    We know she has a law degree and spent a couple of years as a low-level grunt at a variety of law firms.

    But, to be a lawyer you have to have a practicing certificate. We have had no indication that she has one.

    Section 21 of the Solicitors Act 1974 – to be qualified to act as a solicitor, you must have been admitted as a solicitor, be on the roll and have a practising certificate (section 1 of the Solicitors Act). You will be committing a criminal offence under section 21, as well as being in breach of the PFR, if you use any description which implies that you are qualified to act as a solicitor and you do not have a practising certificate.

    If she's not working as a solicitor, why would she bother to pay the fee? (Do they have to keep up with their training as well, like accountants?)

    Anyway, in a nutshell, I have a woodwork O level. But I'm certainly not a cabinet-maker.

    Can we just call her an untrained administrator from now on?
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,369
    edited June 2016
    Anyway, in a nutshell, I have a woodwork O level. But I'm certainly not a cabinet-maker.

    I've got one too.
    A real O level from back when most kids could only dream of such heights.
    Kids today wouldn't know a mortice gauge from forstner bit.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    cafcfan said:

    Surely the ultimate embarrassment for Katrien Meire? A lawyer, being sued for yet another public lie. She's done well to beat Michael Slater as the worst lawyer to run Charlton. How is her position remotely tenable? Sack her Roland.

    I've come to the conclusion that we often over-state Meire's credentials by calling her a lawyer.

    We know she has a law degree and spent a couple of years as a low-level grunt at a variety of law firms.

    But, to be a lawyer you have to have a practicing certificate. We have had no indication that she has one.

    Section 21 of the Solicitors Act 1974 – to be qualified to act as a solicitor, you must have been admitted as a solicitor, be on the roll and have a practising certificate (section 1 of the Solicitors Act). You will be committing a criminal offence under section 21, as well as being in breach of the PFR, if you use any description which implies that you are qualified to act as a solicitor and you do not have a practising certificate.

    If she's not working as a solicitor, why would she bother to pay the fee? (Do they have to keep up with their training as well, like accountants?)

    Anyway, in a nutshell, I have a woodwork O level. But I'm certainly not a cabinet-maker.

    Can we just call her an untrained administrator from now on?
    Typist
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I have a Maths O level from the days before calculators when it was all slide rules and log books. Equivalent to a double first from Cambridge these days.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    edited June 2016

    Nightmeire's words might seem like a crime to us, but how easy would it be in a court of law to prove that saying someone's proposed buyout would move a club to a different ground nearby constituted defamation or some other form of significant injury to business reputation or whatever? Would PV's potential buyers want to come to court as witnesses for him and assert that they never had any such intention?

    He has a right to be offended and outraged, but I don't understand how he can do much about it.

    Varney doesn't have to prove anything in terms of his investor. In a defamation case the burden of proof is on the defendant, so she would have to show what she said is true, when it isn't, and she doesn't even know who the investor is, despite what Swisdom thinks. The rest is for the lawyers.

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  • legaladdick
    legaladdick Posts: 1,808
    Cafcfan
    As far as I'm aware she has never pretended to be a solicitor. She may well be qualified as a lawyer in Belgium which entitles her to be called a liar...oops 'lawyer'.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,734
    Yes, we understand that Katrien Meire has a terminal case of foot-in-mouth and in any sensibly run business she would have been binned ages ago, but is any of this actually helping Varney's investors buy the club. It seems to me relations between Varney and Charlton are only getting worse and dragging Katrien Meire's idiocy through the courts isn't going to improve matters.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited June 2016
    Well her LinkedIn profile says one of her skills is in Litigation.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,946
    Personally if it's not The Valley, Floyd Road, then it's not Charlton and you wont catch me going.

    No matter where we roam,
    The Valley is our home.

    End of.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    seth plum said:

    I have a Maths O level from the days before calculators when it was all slide rules and log books. Equivalent to a double first from Cambridge these days.

    Was that graded or straight pass or fail ?
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,212
    Hasn't Varney a link with Ebsfleet and the proposed Disneyesk amusement park? Bringing my GSE grade 5 certificate into play for the first and last time, me thinks that moving the valley down to the amusement park makes sense. Good transport links, extending the catchment further into Europe, space to develop a state of the art purpose built stadium (football, concerts, athletics, business conference et seq.). I'm sure this idea would never be announced during negotiations as it would be part of a long term plan (10 years plus) which would give the Consultium time to convince the majority of fans of its benefits. I accept that many fans would seriously object to such a plan but we've seen with RDs business approach that fans (customers) mean SFA in business and I'm not talking about the Scottish Football Association.

    Am I just adding fuel to the fire here or raising an alternative view? I guess both, as I'm confused as to why would this CEO say such a thing unless she achieved the same certification as me in maths?

    1+1= 3 or somethink

    ;0)
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    I have a Maths O level from the days before calculators when it was all slide rules and log books. Equivalent to a double first from Cambridge these days.

    Was that graded or straight pass or fail ?
    Graded.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    Solidgone said:

    Hasn't Varney a link with Ebsfleet and the proposed Disneyesk amusement park? Bringing my GSE grade 5 certificate into play for the first and last time, me thinks that moving the valley down to the amusement park makes sense. Good transport links, extending the catchment further into Europe, space to develop a state of the art purpose built stadium (football, concerts, athletics, business conference et seq.). I'm sure this idea would never be announced during negotiations as it would be part of a long term plan (10 years plus) which would give the Consultium time to convince the majority of fans of its benefits. I accept that many fans would seriously object to such a plan but we've seen with RDs business approach that fans (customers) mean SFA in business and I'm not talking about the Scottish Football Association.

    Am I just adding fuel to the fire here or raising an alternative view? I guess both, as I'm confused as to why would this CEO say such a thing unless she achieved the same certification as me in maths?

    1+1= 3 or somethink

    ;0)

    An interesting view! Alas, anything involving Charlton and that area would be a severe conflict of interest with his role at Ebbsfleet - a position he appears to be settled in, recently committing to a new contract.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661

    seth plum said:

    I have a Maths O level from the days before calculators when it was all slide rules and log books. Equivalent to a double first from Cambridge these days.

    Stick to the thread, please.
    Think you're going off on a tangent.
    That's cos his sin didn't have the apostrophe in the right place
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,200
    LenGlover said:

    seth plum said:

    I have a Maths O level from the days before calculators when it was all slide rules and log books. Equivalent to a double first from Cambridge these days.

    Stick to the thread, please.
    Think you're going off on a tangent.
    That's cos his sin didn't have the apostrophe in the right place
    I'm just sad that I cannot like and lol that!

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  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,212
    "The Dream"....charlton taken over by Reggies A team consortium. Give the current CEO a kick up the derrière and one way Eurostar ticket to Belgium (final destination optional). The return of SCP with a blank cheque book for players to take us back into Div2. Further cash once in Div 2 to consolidate and review. Meanwhile, CAST and other fan forums have regalvanised support and target 40k is back on track. Plans in place to increase capacity of the valley to 45k and redevelopment set into motion (Jimmy Seed stand and East stand). Trip to Wembley whether it's through play offs or cup. Followed by promotion to Prem in 5 years. Number one in SE London (Palarse relegated after 2016/17 season). The Spanners remain in Div 3 with their annual punch up at Wembley and losing.
    Premiership position secured and European football beckons. i have a cheap rate for pensioners season ticket. Drink with out Directors down the pub or pop into the valley for a chat with one of them to raise any concerns. And see our team players joining the away support if not selected to play......Come on consultium please make my dream come true and consider paying over the top so that we can have our charlton back.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,454
    aliwibble said:

    Someone called me a twat. How do I stand ?

    Like this?

    image
    GO (Thought bubble): 89th min of the Euro 2016 Final... Free Kick to England, this is my chance to win it
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    GO: 'well I quite like having this snooker cue stuck up my arse'
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    Stand like this . Very handy gadget .
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    I'm going to stop staring at the picture now.

    Well in a minute anyway.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    I really wonder what Keith Peacock makes of the whole shebang not just this latest tiff?

    I stand to be corrected but I cannot recall any comment from him whatsoever.
  • Welly
    Welly Posts: 493
    Must say Len I have posted twice before saying the same.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Come on Pete show the emails now!

    :)
  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited June 2016

    Nightmeire's words might seem like a crime to us, but how easy would it be in a court of law to prove that saying someone's proposed buyout would move a club to a different ground nearby constituted defamation or some other form of significant injury to business reputation or whatever? Would PV's potential buyers want to come to court as witnesses for him and assert that they never had any such intention?

    He has a right to be offended and outraged, but I don't understand how he can do much about it.

    Varney doesn't have to prove anything in terms of his investor. In a defamation case the burden of proof is on the defendant, so she would have to show what she said is true, when it isn't, and she doesn't even know who the investor is, despite what Swisdom thinks. The rest is for the lawyers.
    Yes, but surely there's something more to defamation (or other such legal processes) than someone just telling a fib about you? Don't you have to convince the court that it damages you in a significant way? My point was that wouldn't a court not composed of football fans say, so what?