BETDAQ New Principal Partner (Shirt Sponsor) - Confirmed
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I'm just glad they made boycotting this years kit that much easier.
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Not one for promoting brands that suck money from people so it's a easy pass. Sorry if it's been covered, but will they be able to print that on kids kits. ?0
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Apparently not, which is a good thing.shine166 said:Not one for promoting brands that suck money from people so it's a easy pass. Sorry if it's been covered, but will they be able to print that on kids kits. ?
However it underlines the whole absurdity of having a betting shop as a sponsor anyway. If the sponsor isn't appropriate for a child's kit, then why should the child's role-models be seen in it?13 -
Love the new sponsor... bit disapointed with the back of shirt and shorts one though.
Just need a nailed on tabacco firm and grain alcohol supplier, then we can really kick this family image shit into touch.10 -
Who?, their parents ?LuckyReds said:
Apparently not, which is a good thing.shine166 said:Not one for promoting brands that suck money from people so it's a easy pass. Sorry if it's been covered, but will they be able to print that on kids kits. ?
However it underlines the whole absurdity of having a betting shop as a sponsor anyway. If the sponsor isn't appropriate for a child's kit, then why should the child's role-models be seen in it?
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Parents or players.MrOneLung said:
Who?, their parents ?LuckyReds said:
Apparently not, which is a good thing.shine166 said:Not one for promoting brands that suck money from people so it's a easy pass. Sorry if it's been covered, but will they be able to print that on kids kits. ?
However it underlines the whole absurdity of having a betting shop as a sponsor anyway. If the sponsor isn't appropriate for a child's kit, then why should the child's role-models be seen in it?
You see young kids aspire to grow up to be like the players, arguably one reason why personalised kits sell so well in children's sizes. I guess it seems a bit weird to me, to say it's wrong for a child to wear the betting logo - but end up giving them merchandise (posters, calendars, photos etc) which has exactly the same adverts on it.0 -
I love gambling so doesn't bother me, when I sign up to a betting firm it's the only time you'll catch me ticking the box that says "would you like to hear offers".0
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I actually launched BetDaq in the UK sometime around 2000...kick started the campaign with a front page on the FT and an interview with Dermot Desmond who did indeed own it then.... At the time it was purely launched for extremely high net worth individuals to bet against each other on pretty much anything they wanted... Worked with them for about a year and then moved on and assumed they had gone bust/under until today as didn't hear anything from them since.....
Am not fussed about them sponsoring the shirt (as I won't be buying anyway)...but to the wider point, I'm not convinced of the benefits of any shirt sponsorship anyway...does 'man in the street' actually ever do anything based on what they see on a shirt? working in comms, I always think of football sponsorship as primarily of vanity projects and really don't see a business return.... That said, I know that there's at least one person on here (who also works for the same group as me) who could extol the virtues of a decent sponsorship I'm sure....
Not really contributed to the thread but they did help pay my mortgage for a short while...1 -
Never heard of them. But then I'd never heard of viglen, redbus, llanera, mesh...kinveachyaddick said:Betdaq are a pretty high-profile company to be sponsoring a League One club so this is reasonably impressive from the commercial team
You get the picture.1 -
The words of a bitter man, crumbling under the stress of not having a Andrews Air Conditioning 3.0XXL unit like the rest of us.Charlton Charlie said:I actually launched BetDaq in the UK sometime around 2000...kick started the campaign with a front page on the FT and an interview with Dermot Desmond who did indeed own it then.... At the time it was purely launched for extremely high net worth individuals to bet against each other on pretty much anything they wanted... Worked with them for about a year and then moved on and assumed they had gone bust/under until today as didn't hear anything from them since.....
Am not fussed about them sponsoring the shirt (as I won't be buying anyway)...but to the wider point, I'm not convinced of the benefits of any shirt sponsorship anyway...does 'man in the street' actually ever do anything based on what they see on a shirt? working in comms, I always think of football sponsorship as primarily of vanity projects and really don't see a business return.... That said, I know that there's at least one person on here (who also works for the same group as me) who could extol the virtues of a decent sponsorship I'm sure....
Not really contributed to the thread but they did help pay my mortgage for a short while...17 - Sponsored links:
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Think it's upsetting that a club with a long standing decent set of morals , like ours has sold it self to a company like this.
With KM, TK and RD trying to use the community trust to gain a better reputation and spin themselves in a positive light - how could they go to such a company of they were so Conscious about the local community and the fan base?
A shame that all of the CACT has been unfairly linked to this regime and now linked to a company who thrive off of addiction and other peoples loss!4 -
All this holier than thou boll**ks really annoys me.
As most of you know, I work in the gambling industry, so you can read this how you wish - but smoking and especially alcohol destroy far, far more lives than gambling. Would the cry of foul be as loud if Carlsberg had decided to sponsor us?
The most recent gambling prevalence survey indicated that less than 1% of gamblers have a problem - and that figure hasn't increased significantly for the last 10 years. The FOBT in betting shops are dangerous for those who have addictive natures - I would not disagree. But no more than slot machines in pubs and clubs. The overwhelming majority of betting customers are having a harmless flutter, only risking what they can afford to lose.
The vast majority of people who take the moral high ground do the lottery every week (and I'm pretty sure that goes for some of the 'oh no not a gambling company' brigade on here). Maybe the pools. Everyone who pays into a pension scheme is a gambler - although because the fund managers are doing it for them it somehow removes them from the bad smell. Anyone on here own shares? Anyone on here work in insurance? Lloyds of London is a betting shop - the floor (if it still existed) of the London Stock Exchange is a betting shop.
A club with long standing decent set of morals - what a load of old sh*t! Do we sell alcohol on the concourses? Have we had betting partners in the past? Do we sell perimeter advertising to betting companies?
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Leicester have King Power. They have nothing to do with gambling in fact they operate in a county where gambling is illegal. They're a Thai duty-free shop operation.sam3110 said:
You say most clubs but half the Premier League has a betting company/online casino as a sponsor now.kentaddick said:
Or most clubs (quite rightly) wouldn't touch a betting company with a barge pole.kinveachyaddick said:Betdaq are a pretty high-profile company to be sponsoring a League One club so this is reasonably impressive from the commercial team
Yet another own goal by the regime.
Bournemouth, Palarse have Mansion
Burnley and Sunderland have Dafabet
Leicester have King Power
Stoke have bet365
Swansea have BetEast
Watford have 138.com
West Brom have uk-k8.com
West Ham have Betway
It's where the money is, clearly.0 -
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My guess - that's borne out of hundreds of illiterate rantings from the nobheads on the Facebook page.WSS said:
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Can anyone link to the BETDAQ employees digging out fans for a person not on twitter of facebook?0
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He sounds like a good man, it's so nice to know that, even if it was a while ago someone affiliated with Charlton really felt that the club, as a center of its community, has a social responsibility. Whatever happened to him...?AFKABartram said:Always remember Richard Murray at a Bromley Q&A when chairman saying he wouldn't embrace gambling sponsorship as football clubs have a social responsibility....
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Hah, the tosser has hidden his tweets now.
Regardless of whether it was borne out of "hundreds of illiterate rantings from the nobheads" (which it doesn't appear to be - it appears to have been directly in response to fans on Twitter) it's still unprofessional and makes him, and by association BETDAQ, look pretty amateur and helmet-like.3 - Sponsored links:
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Al is an apologist but still manages to be a good fella away from a keyboard.Covered_End_Lad said:Essex_Al said:Ha, ha here we go again, it wouldn't matter if the Pope was sponsoring our shirts, you'd still find something to moan about or spin it to your advantage!
SHG, I'm surprised at you, you are one of the more sensible posters on here, but we only have BETDAQ as a sponsor because of CARD and the protests, that's laughable!
I very rarely gamble, but this company are sponsoring us for three years which in L1 is probably better than most. Thanks BETDAQ for the money and yes, lets hope it does help us get back to the Championship!
Pair of toolscolin1961 said:Good deal for the club , you have to move with the times .
Well done charlton ........1 -
Well behind the curve here, but from what I can glean a BETDAQ employee, Derek Mills has been on the internet bad mouthing Charlton fans in some way on the day BETDAQ announced a deal with Charlton.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/derek-mills-42197846
Right now the BETDAQ site is currently offline.0 -
If this is true, then Katrien and BETDAQ are suitable 'partners' because BETDAQ has just declared war on Charlton fans, as Katrien did ages ago.
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He said something like "barrel of laughs these Charlton fans"seth plum said:Well behind the curve here, but from what I can glean a BETDAQ employee, Derek Mills has been on the internet bad mouthing Charlton fans in some way on the day BETDAQ announced a deal with Charlton.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/derek-mills-42197846
Right now the BETDAQ site is currently offline.
not crime of century but probably not his brightest idea either.
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No not crime of the century, but stinks of arrogance, distain, and dismissal.Swisdom said:
He said something like "barrel of laughs these Charlton fans"seth plum said:Well behind the curve here, but from what I can glean a BETDAQ employee, Derek Mills has been on the internet bad mouthing Charlton fans in some way on the day BETDAQ announced a deal with Charlton.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/derek-mills-42197846
Right now the BETDAQ site is currently offline.
not crime of century but probably not his brightest idea either.
Who the hell is Derek Mills that he is now in a position to pass judgement on these Charlton fans?
How come he gets such comprehensive knowledge to publicly declare such stuff?
Unless there is more information to come it is probably reasonable to file Derek Mills of BETDAQ as an enemy.3 -
Betdaq sounds like a bit of a Del Boy operation all round.4
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I hardly ever comment on here but this is getting pathetic now. I really can't see people's problems with a betting company sponsoring us. As already mentioned so many clubs are sponsored by similar companies, including almost half of the teams in the biggest league in the world. But I guess it's another perfect excuse for everyone to moan about the current owners.
That betdaq employee only wrote that because our 'fans' have nothing better to do than email and tweet his company moaning about it. Fair play to him having an opinion on his own personal social media account. It seems that free speech only applies to those 'against the regime'.8 -
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He said something like "barrel of laughs these Charlton fans"
not crime of century but probably not his brightest idea either.
No not crime of the century, but stinks of arrogance, distain, and dismissal.
He should get on well with Pinocchio then Seth
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Fair play to him for having an opinion, so why did he straight away hide what he said?Champs85 said:I hardly ever comment on here but this is getting pathetic now. I really can't see people's problems with a betting company sponsoring us. As already mentioned so many clubs are sponsored by similar companies, including almost half of the teams in the biggest league in the world. But I guess it's another perfect excuse for everyone to moan about the current owners.
That betdaq employee only wrote that because our 'fans' have nothing better to do than email and tweet his company moaning about it. Fair play to him having an opinion on his own personal social media account. It seems that free speech only applies to those 'against the regime'.0 -
His followers can still see the tweet.seth plum said:
Fair play to him for having an opinion, so why did he straight away hide what he said?Champs85 said:I hardly ever comment on here but this is getting pathetic now. I really can't see people's problems with a betting company sponsoring us. As already mentioned so many clubs are sponsored by similar companies, including almost half of the teams in the biggest league in the world. But I guess it's another perfect excuse for everyone to moan about the current owners.
That betdaq employee only wrote that because our 'fans' have nothing better to do than email and tweet his company moaning about it. Fair play to him having an opinion on his own personal social media account. It seems that free speech only applies to those 'against the regime'.0
