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Is Slade another puppet?

floydroadfaithfull
floydroadfaithfull Posts: 4,778
edited July 2016 in General Charlton
Seems like he has no say in the departures??
Surely he wouldn't have took the job on if he'd known our best players were going to be sold 3 weeks before the new season?
Unless it's part of his masterplan to reshaping the squad
But I fear that's not the case
He seems very quiet over our departures
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    In terms of the departures its difficult because the club have probably told him that sales will have to be made due to relegation to League One... Slade isn't going to be a mug to think that those sales will come from the likes of Bergdich / Ceballos / Ba etc.

    As for being quiet over our departures... What can he say?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    I wouldn't class him as a puppet in the manner of say Fraeye, but he did agree to work for these fuckers when 5 minutes of research online would've told him to do anything but, so you have to wonder.

    However i can't imagine for one second he expected no players to leave. We're newly relegated into league one, it's fairly obvious some players would attract bids and want to leave.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,622
    ForeverAddickted said:

    In terms of the departures its difficult because the club have probably told him that sales will have to be made due to relegation to League One... Slade isn't going to be a mug to think that those sales will come from the likes of Bergdich / Ceballos / Ba etc.

    As for being quiet over our departures... What can he say?

    Goodbye is customary
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    I wouldn't class him as a puppet in the manner of say Fraeye, but he did agree to work for these fuckers when 5 minutes of research online would've told him to do anything but, so you have to wonder.

    However i can't imagine for one second he expected no players to leave. We're newly relegated into league one, it's fairly obvious some players would attract tiny teeny bids and want to leave.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited July 2016
    At the same time you could state that he's not a puppet for our owners... With the hiring of Nugent this is the first proper Management duo we've had Chris Powell and Dyer (i.e. two people who want to work together rather than two randoms being put together)

    Now am sure that Russell has had 100% say in Kevin coming in as it cant be coincidence
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    We're all crazee now
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    In terms of the departures its difficult because the club have probably told him that sales will have to be made due to relegation to League One... Slade isn't going to be a mug to think that those sales will come from the likes of Bergdich / Ceballos / Ba etc.

    As for being quiet over our departures... What can he say?

    Goodbye is customary
    Why? - Chris Powell didnt come out with anything when we sold Dale Stephens / Yann Kermorgant...
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The answer will be found in the results.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    All these players leaving are too good for is in league 1... Hardly makes him a puppet if they want to go
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    seth plum said:

    The answer will be found in the results.

    So had Fraeye won matches he wouldnt have been a puppet?
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    In terms of the departures its difficult because the club have probably told him that sales will have to be made due to relegation to League One... Slade isn't going to be a mug to think that those sales will come from the likes of Bergdich / Ceballos / Ba etc.

    As for being quiet over our departures... What can he say?

    Goodbye is customary
    sure he has said goodbye, if he has had enough time to remember their name that is ;-))

    can't blame any of the outgoing's on him, whether he knew there would be so many is another question
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited July 2016
    floydroadfaithfull said:

    Seems like he has no say in the departures??
    Surely he wouldn't have took the job on if he'd known our best players were going to be sold 3 weeks before the new season?
    Unless it's part of his masterplan to reshaping the squad
    But I fear that's not the case
    He seems very quiet over our departures

    I doubt there are many managers who have the clout to stop owners selling players.

    Perhaps someone like Alex Ferguson did at Man U, but I doubt many others.

    I think most Charlton fans "knew" JBG & Cousins would go & let's be honest a £1m fee for a goalie that has had half a good season, isn't necessarily bad business.

    Tbh, I was expecting Texeira, Bauer, Diarra, Lookman & Watt to go as well, so at the moment I should imagine Slade is quite relieved (they'll probably all be gone by the end of the window, now I've said this).

    So no I don't think Slade is a puppet & I don't think we should be suggesting he maybe until something he does suggests otherwise.

    Slade has my 100% backing at the moment.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited July 2016
    If he was we'd need re-inforced strings to dangle him
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Covered End said:

    floydroadfaithfull said:

    Seems like he has no say in the departures??
    Surely he wouldn't have took the job on if he'd known our best players were going to be sold 3 weeks before the new season?
    Unless it's part of his masterplan to reshaping the squad
    But I fear that's not the case
    He seems very quiet over our departures

    I doubt there are many managers who have the clout to stop owners selling players.

    Perhaps someone like Alex Ferguson did at Man U, but I doubt many others.

    I think most Charlton fans "knew" JBG & Cousins would go & let's be honest a £1m fee for a goalie that has had half a good season, isn't necessarily bad business.

    Tbh, I was expecting Texeira, Bauer, Diarra, Lookman & Watt to go as well, so at the moment I should imagine Slade is quite relieved (they'll probably all be gone by the end of the window, now I've said this).

    So no I don't think Slade is a puppet & I don't think we should be suggesting he maybe until something he does suggests otherwise.

    Slade has my 100% backing at the moment.
    still think four of that five will go, would have been five if Diarra wasn't injured

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    ForeverAddickted said:

    seth plum said:

    The answer will be found in the results.

    So had Fraeye won matches he wouldnt have been a puppet?
    Fraeye was a puppet who failed. One must hope Slade is a puppet who doesn't fail.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    Either way he's more of an animated character than a puppet

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    Covered End said:

    floydroadfaithfull said:

    Seems like he has no say in the departures??
    Surely he wouldn't have took the job on if he'd known our best players were going to be sold 3 weeks before the new season?
    Unless it's part of his masterplan to reshaping the squad
    But I fear that's not the case
    He seems very quiet over our departures

    Tbh, I was expecting Texeira, Bauer, Diarra, Lookman & Watt to go as well, so at the moment I should imagine Slade is quite relieved (they'll probably all be gone by the end of the window, now I've said this).
    Apart from Diarra, i'll be amazed if as many as 2 of the other 4 are here by 1st September.
  • floydroadfaithfull
    floydroadfaithfull Posts: 4,778
    Good to get nugent in but they need decent players to make it work
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    floydroadfaithfull said:

    Good to get nugent in but they need decent players to make it work

    Don't worry, they're on their way, Duchatelet has cohort or pregnant women lined up. They have all agreed to be scanned and they're all male foetuses, so all bases covered.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited July 2016
    floydroadfaithfull said:

    Good to get nugent in but they need decent players to make it work

    I reckon we've got a good few of the decent players already...

    We needed a few more and a Manager who could bring them together as last season it was just a bunch of strangers thrown together, we knew they could play Football because apart from a few, they all showed glimpses last season
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  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,091
    Yes of course he is. Look who's been sold.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    shine166 said:

    All these players leaving are too good for is in league 1... Hardly makes him a puppet if they want to go

    Comments like this make me laugh. The players that are "too good for league one" are the same players that got us relegated playing a standard of football that belonged in league one.

    Anybody that thinks we are going to walk through league one this season if we keep all our "stars" like we did under CP is dreaming.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    Friend Or Defoe said:

    Yes of course he is. Look who's been sold.

    Slade / Cousins whats the ultimate difference between the two.

    The answer is nothing... Both are employed by Charlton Athletic Football Club, both are under Contract so the big decisions will always remain with the big people (Sadly the big people at Charlton don't have a scooby do).
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,247
    Whoever comes in and works for these people are puppets

    I'm sure Russell Slade is a decent bloke same as Luzon, Peeters, Fraeye and Riga but don't believe for one second just because Russell Slade has worked in English football before he is anything but another puppet. He'll be gone as soon as it sinks in and if it hasn't already, well who can blame him for earning a living, right?

    It is still abundantly clear we are going to crash into this season the same way we have lummoxed our way into the 2. Under resourced and under prepared. This will continue along with all the rest of the damage the morons in charge keep inflicting until they eventually fuck off
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,630
    Support Slade fully but I do think he will be a puppet. Purely because what sane manager would work for these clown and Ajose and Holmes were wanted by us before he came on board and I reckon Novak may have been aswell. I hope I'm wrong but just hope he has the balls to ask for what is needed rather then be told what he is going to be given.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    These players who are too good for league one were comprehensively beaten by Colchester United, that ought to make us pause and think for a moment.
  • Daggs
    Daggs Posts: 1,344
    Personally I suspect he has been conned.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,621
    edited July 2016
    seth plum said:

    These players who are too good for league one were comprehensively beaten by Colchester United, that ought to make us pause and think for a moment.

    I seem to recall Colchester winning 7-1 away to Norwich the year Norwich won promotion from division one. Were Norwich also champions ?
  • Northstandpieeater
    Northstandpieeater Posts: 730
    How about we give Slade a chance support the team after all !!!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    seth plum said:

    These players who are too good for league one were comprehensively beaten by Colchester United, that ought to make us pause and think for a moment.

    Players = Too good for League One
    Management = Weren't good enough for the Conference South!!

    Managers will struggle if they don't have the right set of players to work with... Players will struggle if they dont have the right sort of Management to work with and believe the latter happened more last season than the former

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