Message to CARD.
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Don't disagree with your points and, unhelpfully, I do not have a solution. I am possibly clouded by looking at the gloating reaction on SE7 Valiants to the opening game. Quite how it pans out if we start to struggle, or even accept mid-table mediocrity, is another matter.PeterGage said:
May I offer some views on your post Mogodon.SouthWest_Addicks said:
You may be correct.mogodon said:
The problem with a boycott is that aside from lower attendances it doesn't do anything tangible. So it becomes accepted that crowds have fallen because of relegation, and the more muted dissent becomes accepted as being a sign of the club are turning things round and winning people over.Leeds_Addick said:
5000+ at various protests last season. Not sure how that can be called a minority.Lincsaddick said:there were a lot of people spending lots of money in the shop on Saturday, me included .. thing is that CARD members/supporters have every right to make their protests so long as they do not impinge on the rights of fans who just want to go to enjoy games in an uninterrupted and friendly/peaceful manner.
This site is awash with CARD postings and seemingly few anti-card write ups. However, CARD members and I suggest CARD supporters are in a minority, albeit a very vociferous one
Minority at games this season though? Yes, because majority of protestors are boycotting.
However, I cannot physically hand over my hard earned to KM.
I would personally not be able to look at myself in the mirror.
I do not expect people to have the same opinion but that is what I believe.
1. "Aside from lower attendances", to the anticipated future levels is surely due to a combination of relegation and the of CARD-inspired action is indeed tangible. Not sure people outside of the Charlton owners/managers would accept that lower attendances "have fallen because of relegation".
2. "The muted dissent" will clearly be so in numbers due to the fall off in attendances, many of whom (I would suggest) are CARD supporters. Given the excellent record of CARD last season, I have faith in their ability to be further creative this season and lessen the impact of reduced protesters, but recognising it will be a big problem to reach the heights of last season.
Enjoy your day
I do think that the lower attendances will pass people by. Most would expect a fall-off with relegation even in a normal season at a normal club. Plus if Meire keeps massaging the figures. we'll probably be posting crowds in excess of the capacity!0 -
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
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I went nowhere near the shop on Saturday. You do know what "if" means?sarge1g said:
I may have been the person you saw at the shop entrance on Saturday (albeit that I am not short and fat) and all I said to you was "don't buy one of theirs, buy one of ours" highlighting the supporters shirt offering. At no point did I step in your way or stop you entering the store, I was polite and had used the same approach all afternoon without any form of confrontation, indeed most people were very pleasant. You on the other hand were very aggressive and abusive towards me telling me to "Fuck off" among other comments that neither I or others with me were able to understand. If as you suggest the police were to have become involved it would have been you who they would have spoken to about your abusive language and aggressive attitude. We all have a right to protest and picket etc as long as it is done within the law which all of us were. If you were not the person I refer to all well and good but as usual there are two sides to every story. I have been a supporter for just over 50 years and saddens me that because of this regime lots of what should be positive help and assistance (so much imagination and skill and more professionalism than Ms Meire and her cohorts have shown) for the club is now being lost. I will continue to "support the team but not the regime" until Mr Duchatelet comes to his senses and admits that his "Network" idea does not work and he sells up.East_Stand_Loopy said:
I would just like to say to any protesters or CARD members.Granpa said:I have several times confirmed my support for legitimate protest, but on Saturday upon try to enter the Club Shop we were told by an individual stationed by the entrance door not to spend any money. I object very strongly to his approach, he could easily have caused the Police to become involved, which should not be your aim. As it happens we were there just to look, but as I understand Roland does not get any retail profit from the shop, only rent from the franchisee which am sure he has already pocketed. Please be aware that I believe that people like this individual ( short,fat, dressed in dark clothing ) is likely to make your cause more difficult.
Please don't try to tell me how, or what, to spend my money on. You will be given a right flea in your ear...0 -
Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:-
Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."7 -
Not really. I used to be a supporter, I supported the club financially by buying a season ticket and club merchandise. I supported the team by attending matches and singing and chanting.AddicksAddict said:
What a load of er, um, what's the word I'm searching for? Oh yes, bollocks.Redskin said:
As admirable as her contributions are, she's a 'fan' not a 'supporter'. There's a difference.seth plum said:JessieAddick has not been to the Valley and she is an ace supporter.
And I say this as a dispassionate supporter
myself.
I no longer do those things so I do not consider myself to be a supporter, I am not even really a "fan" at the moment, as I dislike almost everything that is going on off the pitch and a good deal that goes on on the pitch.
I am a follower at best.
Regarding the protests - I thought I read that the idea was to lay off protesting for August?1 -
Clarify then?Airman Brown said:
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
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Do you honestly believe the protests are supported by < 50% of the fan base?Lincsaddick said:
replies like this make you look a little ridiculous .. we all know that 2% is totally wrong and even supposing the true figure is 30/40/49%, that is still a minorityPeterGage said:
2% perhapsLincsaddick said:there were a lot of people spending lots of money in the shop on Saturday, me included .. thing is that CARD members/supporters have every right to make their protests so long as they do not impinge on the rights of fans who just want to go to enjoy games in an uninterrupted and friendly/peaceful manner.
This site is awash with CARD postings and seemingly few anti-card write ups. However, CARD members and I suggest CARD supporters are in a minority, albeit a very vociferous one
@Leeds_Addick .. well done for making the long round trip to support CARD0 -
CARD said they would not disrupt any games during August, they were quite clear that protests would continue.Algarveaddick said:AddicksAddict said:
What a load of er, um, what's the word I'm searching for? Oh yes, bollocks.Redskin said:
As admirable as her contributions are, she's a 'fan' not a 'supporter'. There's a difference.seth plum said:JessieAddick has not been to the Valley and she is an ace supporter.
And I say this as a dispassionate supporter
myself.
I am a follower at best.
Regarding the protests - I thought I read that the idea was to lay off protesting for August?1 -
That's what I meant Stu - I worded it wrongly.Stu_of_Kunming said:
CARD said they would not disrupt any games during August, they were quite clear that protests would continue.Algarveaddick said:AddicksAddict said:
What a load of er, um, what's the word I'm searching for? Oh yes, bollocks.Redskin said:
As admirable as her contributions are, she's a 'fan' not a 'supporter'. There's a difference.seth plum said:JessieAddick has not been to the Valley and she is an ace supporter.
And I say this as a dispassionate supporter
myself.
I am a follower at best.
Regarding the protests - I thought I read that the idea was to lay off protesting for August?0 -
What a melon, so he was going to go out of his way, simply to cause a dispute?mogodon said:Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:-
Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
I also love the foot soldiers/generals comment, does Mr. Melon realise it's a protest led by supporters, not a military operation!5 -
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Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
I think Malcolm Triggs owns some kind of PR concern, and I really didn't think that he was interested in 'soccerball' so well suited to SE7 Valiants
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Nice one Triggs.mogodon said:Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:-
Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
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Doesn't meet weekly and when it has met (roughly eight or ten times since January) there have probably been 30 different people there at various times,many of whom have met through CARD and were neither active nor involved with the club previously.C4FC4L1f3 said:
Clarify then?Airman Brown said:
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
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He's worse than Sue imo.mogodon said:Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:-
Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
A really really weird man.0 -
Okay maybe not worse but close4
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Don't know about the military - sounds more as if he is describing a scene from The GodfatherStu_of_Kunming said:
What a melon, so he was going to go out of his way, simply to cause a dispute?mogodon said:Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:-
Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
I also love the foot soldiers/generals comment, does Mr. Melon realise it's a protest led by supporters, not a military operation!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWUdIKYgbvQ 0 -
Utter bollocks from Mr Trigg.
The boy in the picture is my son, he might be a big lump but he's only 13. He wanted to do the protest so i stood to one side and watched and listened just in case anyone gave him some lip. I can honestly say i heard or saw nothing untoward at all.6 -
And, worth noting that several people have joined the CARD organising team since it was formed, including two over the summer. Others have stepped back but remain volunteers/supporters. Fresh people (with fresh ideas) are welcomed but we look for specific skills and personal qualities that will add value to the team. One of the personal qualities is Resilience; because it is bloody hard work and the criticism (not doing enough, doing too much, doing more than RD/KM to destroy the club etc etc) can be hard to take.Airman Brown said:
Doesn't meet weekly and when it has met (roughly eight or ten times since January) there have probably been 30 different people there at various times,many of whom have met through CARD and were neither active nor involved with the club previously.C4FC4L1f3 said:
Clarify then?Airman Brown said:
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
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What is the point you are trying to make??East_Stand_Loopy said:
I went nowhere near the shop on Saturday. You do know what "if" means?sarge1g said:
I may have been the person you saw at the shop entrance on Saturday (albeit that I am not short and fat) and all I said to you was "don't buy one of theirs, buy one of ours" highlighting the supporters shirt offering. At no point did I step in your way or stop you entering the store, I was polite and had used the same approach all afternoon without any form of confrontation, indeed most people were very pleasant. You on the other hand were very aggressive and abusive towards me telling me to "Fuck off" among other comments that neither I or others with me were able to understand. If as you suggest the police were to have become involved it would have been you who they would have spoken to about your abusive language and aggressive attitude. We all have a right to protest and picket etc as long as it is done within the law which all of us were. If you were not the person I refer to all well and good but as usual there are two sides to every story. I have been a supporter for just over 50 years and saddens me that because of this regime lots of what should be positive help and assistance (so much imagination and skill and more professionalism than Ms Meire and her cohorts have shown) for the club is now being lost. I will continue to "support the team but not the regime" until Mr Duchatelet comes to his senses and admits that his "Network" idea does not work and he sells up.East_Stand_Loopy said:
I would just like to say to any protesters or CARD members.Granpa said:I have several times confirmed my support for legitimate protest, but on Saturday upon try to enter the Club Shop we were told by an individual stationed by the entrance door not to spend any money. I object very strongly to his approach, he could easily have caused the Police to become involved, which should not be your aim. As it happens we were there just to look, but as I understand Roland does not get any retail profit from the shop, only rent from the franchisee which am sure he has already pocketed. Please be aware that I believe that people like this individual ( short,fat, dressed in dark clothing ) is likely to make your cause more difficult.
Please don't try to tell me how, or what, to spend my money on. You will be given a right flea in your ear...0 -
Do the elected few get first dibs on free tickets and someone asked yesterday morning how many free tickets did CARD receive for Saturdays game?Davo55 said:
And, worth noting that several people have joined the CARD organising team since it was formed, including two over the summer. Others have stepped back but remain volunteers/supporters. Fresh people (with fresh ideas) are welcomed but we look for specific skills and personal qualities that will add value to the team. One of the personal qualities is Resilience; because it is bloody hard work and the criticism (not doing enough, doing too much, doing more than RD/KM to destroy the club etc etc) can be hard to take.Airman Brown said:
Doesn't meet weekly and when it has met (roughly eight or ten times since January) there have probably been 30 different people there at various times,many of whom have met through CARD and were neither active nor involved with the club previously.C4FC4L1f3 said:
Clarify then?Airman Brown said:
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
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Our group got four of them in the White Swan as instructed by the announcement.clb74 said:
Do the elected few get first dibs on free tickets and someone asked yesterday morning how many free tickets did CARD receive for Saturdays game?Davo55 said:
And, worth noting that several people have joined the CARD organising team since it was formed, including two over the summer. Others have stepped back but remain volunteers/supporters. Fresh people (with fresh ideas) are welcomed but we look for specific skills and personal qualities that will add value to the team. One of the personal qualities is Resilience; because it is bloody hard work and the criticism (not doing enough, doing too much, doing more than RD/KM to destroy the club etc etc) can be hard to take.Airman Brown said:
Doesn't meet weekly and when it has met (roughly eight or ten times since January) there have probably been 30 different people there at various times,many of whom have met through CARD and were neither active nor involved with the club previously.C4FC4L1f3 said:
Clarify then?Airman Brown said:
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
Got no involvement in CARD or their activities so not an "in crew" as far as I'm aware. Dunno of the totals either.
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I don't know what SE7 Valiant is, but I've got a feeling that I'm going to be banned from it quite soon.15
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I'm quite happy for the so called "elected few" to get first dibs on free tickets. They are the people organising the whole thing why shouldn't they get a match ticket ? I went to the ground on saturday to pick up a copy of the voice & did ask Airman if there were any freebies left but they had all gone so I went home. Do you think that he should have given me his ticket ?clb74 said:
Do the elected few get first dibs on free tickets and someone asked yesterday morning how many free tickets did CARD receive for Saturdays game?Davo55 said:
And, worth noting that several people have joined the CARD organising team since it was formed, including two over the summer. Others have stepped back but remain volunteers/supporters. Fresh people (with fresh ideas) are welcomed but we look for specific skills and personal qualities that will add value to the team. One of the personal qualities is Resilience; because it is bloody hard work and the criticism (not doing enough, doing too much, doing more than RD/KM to destroy the club etc etc) can be hard to take.Airman Brown said:
Doesn't meet weekly and when it has met (roughly eight or ten times since January) there have probably been 30 different people there at various times,many of whom have met through CARD and were neither active nor involved with the club previously.C4FC4L1f3 said:
Clarify then?Airman Brown said:
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
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I didn't tell anyone to "F*** off", as no-one had any reason to say anything to me, nor did I have any reason to talk to any protester.sarge1g said:
What is the point you are trying to make??East_Stand_Loopy said:
I went nowhere near the shop on Saturday. You do know what "if" means?sarge1g said:
I may have been the person you saw at the shop entrance on Saturday (albeit that I am not short and fat) and all I said to you was "don't buy one of theirs, buy one of ours" highlighting the supporters shirt offering. At no point did I step in your way or stop you entering the store, I was polite and had used the same approach all afternoon without any form of confrontation, indeed most people were very pleasant. You on the other hand were very aggressive and abusive towards me telling me to "Fuck off" among other comments that neither I or others with me were able to understand. If as you suggest the police were to have become involved it would have been you who they would have spoken to about your abusive language and aggressive attitude. We all have a right to protest and picket etc as long as it is done within the law which all of us were. If you were not the person I refer to all well and good but as usual there are two sides to every story. I have been a supporter for just over 50 years and saddens me that because of this regime lots of what should be positive help and assistance (so much imagination and skill and more professionalism than Ms Meire and her cohorts have shown) for the club is now being lost. I will continue to "support the team but not the regime" until Mr Duchatelet comes to his senses and admits that his "Network" idea does not work and he sells up.East_Stand_Loopy said:
I would just like to say to any protesters or CARD members.Granpa said:I have several times confirmed my support for legitimate protest, but on Saturday upon try to enter the Club Shop we were told by an individual stationed by the entrance door not to spend any money. I object very strongly to his approach, he could easily have caused the Police to become involved, which should not be your aim. As it happens we were there just to look, but as I understand Roland does not get any retail profit from the shop, only rent from the franchisee which am sure he has already pocketed. Please be aware that I believe that people like this individual ( short,fat, dressed in dark clothing ) is likely to make your cause more difficult.
Please don't try to tell me how, or what, to spend my money on. You will be given a right flea in your ear...0 -
So, hypothetically, what might 'a right flea in your ear' consist of?East_Stand_Loopy said:
I didn't tell anyone to "F*** off", as no-one had any reason to say anything to me, nor did I have any reason to talk to any protester.sarge1g said:
What is the point you are trying to make??East_Stand_Loopy said:
I went nowhere near the shop on Saturday. You do know what "if" means?sarge1g said:
I may have been the person you saw at the shop entrance on Saturday (albeit that I am not short and fat) and all I said to you was "don't buy one of theirs, buy one of ours" highlighting the supporters shirt offering. At no point did I step in your way or stop you entering the store, I was polite and had used the same approach all afternoon without any form of confrontation, indeed most people were very pleasant. You on the other hand were very aggressive and abusive towards me telling me to "Fuck off" among other comments that neither I or others with me were able to understand. If as you suggest the police were to have become involved it would have been you who they would have spoken to about your abusive language and aggressive attitude. We all have a right to protest and picket etc as long as it is done within the law which all of us were. If you were not the person I refer to all well and good but as usual there are two sides to every story. I have been a supporter for just over 50 years and saddens me that because of this regime lots of what should be positive help and assistance (so much imagination and skill and more professionalism than Ms Meire and her cohorts have shown) for the club is now being lost. I will continue to "support the team but not the regime" until Mr Duchatelet comes to his senses and admits that his "Network" idea does not work and he sells up.East_Stand_Loopy said:
I would just like to say to any protesters or CARD members.Granpa said:I have several times confirmed my support for legitimate protest, but on Saturday upon try to enter the Club Shop we were told by an individual stationed by the entrance door not to spend any money. I object very strongly to his approach, he could easily have caused the Police to become involved, which should not be your aim. As it happens we were there just to look, but as I understand Roland does not get any retail profit from the shop, only rent from the franchisee which am sure he has already pocketed. Please be aware that I believe that people like this individual ( short,fat, dressed in dark clothing ) is likely to make your cause more difficult.
Please don't try to tell me how, or what, to spend my money on. You will be given a right flea in your ear...0 -
How about: "Go away, and leave me alone..."Uboat said:
So, hypothetically, what might 'a right flea in your ear' consist of?East_Stand_Loopy said:
I didn't tell anyone to "F*** off", as no-one had any reason to say anything to me, nor did I have any reason to talk to any protester.sarge1g said:
What is the point you are trying to make??East_Stand_Loopy said:
I went nowhere near the shop on Saturday. You do know what "if" means?sarge1g said:
I may have been the person you saw at the shop entrance on Saturday (albeit that I am not short and fat) and all I said to you was "don't buy one of theirs, buy one of ours" highlighting the supporters shirt offering. At no point did I step in your way or stop you entering the store, I was polite and had used the same approach all afternoon without any form of confrontation, indeed most people were very pleasant. You on the other hand were very aggressive and abusive towards me telling me to "Fuck off" among other comments that neither I or others with me were able to understand. If as you suggest the police were to have become involved it would have been you who they would have spoken to about your abusive language and aggressive attitude. We all have a right to protest and picket etc as long as it is done within the law which all of us were. If you were not the person I refer to all well and good but as usual there are two sides to every story. I have been a supporter for just over 50 years and saddens me that because of this regime lots of what should be positive help and assistance (so much imagination and skill and more professionalism than Ms Meire and her cohorts have shown) for the club is now being lost. I will continue to "support the team but not the regime" until Mr Duchatelet comes to his senses and admits that his "Network" idea does not work and he sells up.East_Stand_Loopy said:
I would just like to say to any protesters or CARD members.Granpa said:I have several times confirmed my support for legitimate protest, but on Saturday upon try to enter the Club Shop we were told by an individual stationed by the entrance door not to spend any money. I object very strongly to his approach, he could easily have caused the Police to become involved, which should not be your aim. As it happens we were there just to look, but as I understand Roland does not get any retail profit from the shop, only rent from the franchisee which am sure he has already pocketed. Please be aware that I believe that people like this individual ( short,fat, dressed in dark clothing ) is likely to make your cause more difficult.
Please don't try to tell me how, or what, to spend my money on. You will be given a right flea in your ear...
Or does "Free speech" only go one way?0 -
1. We are not elected. We get off our arses to try to make a difference, spending a lot of time and in many cases quite a bit of personal money too.clb74 said:
Do the elected few get first dibs on free tickets and someone asked yesterday morning how many free tickets did CARD receive for Saturdays game?Davo55 said:
And, worth noting that several people have joined the CARD organising team since it was formed, including two over the summer. Others have stepped back but remain volunteers/supporters. Fresh people (with fresh ideas) are welcomed but we look for specific skills and personal qualities that will add value to the team. One of the personal qualities is Resilience; because it is bloody hard work and the criticism (not doing enough, doing too much, doing more than RD/KM to destroy the club etc etc) can be hard to take.Airman Brown said:
Doesn't meet weekly and when it has met (roughly eight or ten times since January) there have probably been 30 different people there at various times,many of whom have met through CARD and were neither active nor involved with the club previously.C4FC4L1f3 said:
Clarify then?Airman Brown said:
Nonsense.C4FC4L1f3 said:There are 5-6 members who meet once a week i believe
2. All of the freebies donated went to fans who wanted/needed a ticket. CARD organisers who went to the game bought there own tickets.
3. I don't know how many tickets were redistributed. I guess one of the team could go through all the emails and tot it up, then try to find out how many were brought on the day that we didn't get an email about, but I don't see why they should - we've all got other things in our lives too.15 -
I am putting this up again...sarge1g said:
I may have been the person you saw at the shop entrance on Saturday (albeit that I am not short and fat) and all I said to you was "don't buy one of theirs, buy one ofn ours" highlighting the supporters shirt offering. At no point did I step in your way or stop you entering the store, I was polite and had used the same approach all afternoon without any form of confrontation, indeed most people were very pleasant. You on the other hand were very aggressive and abusive towards me telling me to "Fuck off" among other comments that neither I or others with me were able to understand. If as you suggest the police were to have become involved it would have been you who they would have spoken to about your abusive language and aggressive attitude. We all have a right to protest and picket etc as long as it is done within the law which all of us were. If you were not the person I refer to all well and good but as usual there are two sides to every story. I have been a supporter for just over 50 years and saddens me that because of this regime lots of what should be positive help and assistance (so much imagination and skill and more professionalism than Ms Meire and her cohorts have shown) for the club is now being lost. I will continue to "support the team but not the regime" until Mr Duchatelet comes to his senses and admits that his "Network" idea does not work and he sells up.East_Stand_Loopy said:
I would just like to say to any protesters or CARD members.Granpa said:I have several times confirmed my support for legitimate protest, but on Saturday upon try to enter the Club Shop we were told by an individual stationed by the entrance door not to spend any money. I object very strongly to his approach, he could easily have caused the Police to become involved, which should not be your aim. As it happens we were there just to look, but as I understand Roland does not get any retail profit from the shop, only rent from the franchisee which am sure he has already pocketed. Please be aware that I believe that people like this individual ( short,fat, dressed in dark clothing ) is likely to make your cause more difficult.
Please don't try to tell me how, or what, to spend my money on. You will be given a right flea in your ear...
I have every right to be bloody angry. I have been accused of being abusive, aggressive, and the police getting involved.
I AM TOTALLY INNOCENT!
I was not there, nor did I speak to anybody.
Hardly any of you know me, but if you did you would know this is not in my nature.
I am the one who has done nothing wrong, and I'm sure if I wanted to, I could make a case for this being libel.
Saying that, I reserve MY right of free speech to tell anyone who thinks they have the right to tell me what to do, to "do one"...4 -
Not sure why you're raising free speech.East_Stand_Loopy said:
How about: "Go away, and leave me alone..."Uboat said:
So, hypothetically, what might 'a right flea in your ear' consist of?East_Stand_Loopy said:
I didn't tell anyone to "F*** off", as no-one had any reason to say anything to me, nor did I have any reason to talk to any protester.sarge1g said:
What is the point you are trying to make??East_Stand_Loopy said:
I went nowhere near the shop on Saturday. You do know what "if" means?sarge1g said:
I may have been the person you saw at the shop entrance on Saturday (albeit that I am not short and fat) and all I said to you was "don't buy one of theirs, buy one of ours" highlighting the supporters shirt offering. At no point did I step in your way or stop you entering the store, I was polite and had used the same approach all afternoon without any form of confrontation, indeed most people were very pleasant. You on the other hand were very aggressive and abusive towards me telling me to "Fuck off" among other comments that neither I or others with me were able to understand. If as you suggest the police were to have become involved it would have been you who they would have spoken to about your abusive language and aggressive attitude. We all have a right to protest and picket etc as long as it is done within the law which all of us were. If you were not the person I refer to all well and good but as usual there are two sides to every story. I have been a supporter for just over 50 years and saddens me that because of this regime lots of what should be positive help and assistance (so much imagination and skill and more professionalism than Ms Meire and her cohorts have shown) for the club is now being lost. I will continue to "support the team but not the regime" until Mr Duchatelet comes to his senses and admits that his "Network" idea does not work and he sells up.East_Stand_Loopy said:
I would just like to say to any protesters or CARD members.Granpa said:I have several times confirmed my support for legitimate protest, but on Saturday upon try to enter the Club Shop we were told by an individual stationed by the entrance door not to spend any money. I object very strongly to his approach, he could easily have caused the Police to become involved, which should not be your aim. As it happens we were there just to look, but as I understand Roland does not get any retail profit from the shop, only rent from the franchisee which am sure he has already pocketed. Please be aware that I believe that people like this individual ( short,fat, dressed in dark clothing ) is likely to make your cause more difficult.
Please don't try to tell me how, or what, to spend my money on. You will be given a right flea in your ear...
Or does "Free speech" only go one way?
You said you would give someone a right flea in their ear. Based on that, another poster wondered whether you were the person who abused them, quite reasonably.
Fairly straightforward really.2 -
Granpa, you really are a jobsworth. I was standing next to the guy in question (short, fat and in dark clothing as you described) and he was more saying in jest there were better places to spend your money. He didn't threaten anyone, wasn't rude and wasn't abusive. Talk about make a mountain out of a molehill. There was no chance of the police becoming involved because of him - or any other individual protesting for that matter. Get a life9
