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Not A Jelly Fish Attack!

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  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    shine166 said:

    Covered End said:

    No lifeguards there apparently.

    There was a petition signed by 100s of people in the last few weeks asking for lifeguards, but it was rejected
    I thought Camber generally had lifeguards around the car park and cafe area? If not, that's absolutely negligent considering the events of a few weeks ago and the fact that it's quite easy to get trapped when the tide comes in due to the layout of the beach.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,311
    edited August 2016
    Covered End said:

    No lifeguards there apparently.

    Unfortunately these 5 young lads leaving life before their time are the tragic endings to situations like this. A stretch of coast that has a very quick tide, no lifeguards and (presumably) little knowledge of the rip tide and dangers involved from the group, and we end up with a RIP thread.

    I think the world as a whole is being desensitised from dangers like this, but as long as we aren't extinct, there will be forces of nature that have the ability to completely overwhelm us and devastate our lives.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    LuckyReds said:

    shine166 said:

    Covered End said:

    No lifeguards there apparently.

    There was a petition signed by 100s of people in the last few weeks asking for lifeguards, but it was rejected
    I thought Camber generally had lifeguards around the car park and cafe area? If not, that's absolutely negligent considering the events of a few weeks ago and the fact that it's quite easy to get trapped when the tide comes in due to the layout of the beach.
    Just to underline this, the BBC are now claiming it was due to sand bars and not a rip tide. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37182791?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central)

    So the very thing I mentioned: a geographic feature that has always been there and always posed a risk. How the hell that doesnt warrant lifeguards I don't know.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,898
    So, fully clothed drug taking illegal immigrants attacked by jellyfish turns into this tragic story.

    Social media at it's absolute worst.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    who cares, someone shoot her
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    RNLI said:

    we believe all five men fell into deep channels of water called sandbars - 3ft (1m) deep undulations - which had been made deeper with the weekend storms.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37182791
    Presumably non-swimmers who thought they were in shallow water.
    RIP.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Salad said:

    who cares, someone shoot her

    who?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,681
    Salad said:

    RNLI said:

    we believe all five men fell into deep channels of water called sandbars - 3ft (1m) deep undulations - which had been made deeper with the weekend storms.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37182791
    Presumably non-swimmers who thought they were in shallow water.
    RIP.
    I was on that beach last week & walked through the 2 or 3 sand bars when walking in/out of the sea. We were lucky that the tide was out the afternoons we were on the beach and could see these perils. However, there would be no danger to any competent swimmer when the tide came in - 3ft is hardly deep.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    cafcdave123 said:

    Salad said:

    who cares, someone shoot her

    who?
    sorry, K*tie H**kins mentioned above
    thought I was responding to that post
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,881
    golfaddick said:

    Salad said:

    RNLI said:

    we believe all five men fell into deep channels of water called sandbars - 3ft (1m) deep undulations - which had been made deeper with the weekend storms.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37182791
    Presumably non-swimmers who thought they were in shallow water.
    RIP.
    I was on that beach last week & walked through the 2 or 3 sand bars when walking in/out of the sea. We were lucky that the tide was out the afternoons we were on the beach and could see these perils. However, there would be no danger to any competent swimmer when the tide came in - 3ft is hardly deep.
    Presumably these friends weren't competent swimmers though. A surprising number of grown ups can't swim - particularly those from non-white communities.

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  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,966
    2 of the dead from Erith apparently
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    edited August 2016
    bolloxbolder said:

    2 of the dead from Erith apparently

    He identified two of the other men as Kobi and Ken Nathan, from Erith in south-east London.

    The Police and Crime Commission for Sussex, Katy Bourne said: "We do need to get together to see if further improvements need to be made [to safety at the beach].

    "We need to find the best answer. I don't know if lifeguards are the answer."

    Last month, 19-year-old Brazilian Gustavo Silva Da Cruz died while swimming in the sea there. He was one of three men who got into trouble in the water.
  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    So sad.

    Unfortunately the emergency services/coastguard/lifeguards can't be everywhere.

    My good friend Tom died a few months back after trying to grab his kids dingy which had floated away a bit into the sea down in the Isles of Scilly. He was a big old rugby player and they believe his heart just stopped but we will never know for sure.

    The reactions of the Cornwall air ambulance and other services were amazing but nothing could be done.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,234
    Ian came across some of the family today walking the dog. A couple of the victims Live off Shrewsbury park, Plumstead Common. A horrible story.

    Rest in peace lads. X
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    We've just been on holiday to Wales and my nephew who isn't yet 4 can't swim, he's been to lessons but isn't yet able to keep his head above water for any distance without support.

    He asked if he could swim in the sea in the shallow end.

    His mum, my sister, struggles to go in the sea at all because she is worried about the possible issues.

    We had a great time but even on a beach with lifeguards, no waves, we found the wind and tide coming in (very shallow bay Poppett sands in particular) I had to be alive to the wind and ride moving us all the time to one side outside the safe swim zone, we were constantly working to the left to keep ourselves in it.

    The lifeguards at that beach were provided by RNLI, and they were collecting on entry.

    I can imagine if you aren't a decent swimmer (and I struggled to swim 100 metres crawl out there so would count myself as an ok but not strong swimmer), you don't know how the sea and tides work, and there is no one there to tell you, even the most benign conditions can be dangerous.

  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,234
    edited August 2016
    We took a walk down to Admaston and spoke to the family and expressed our sympathy. Spoke to one of the young victims' brother. A very sad story.

    Make every moment count everyone. Naff I know but who knows what will happen tomorrow?

    There ends my sermon but I'm feeling very somber after witnessing a family in mourning. X
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Seems like they were aging football on one of the sand cats and got caught out.

    RIP

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