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Jorge Teixeira (The Fly) signed from Standard Liege - 4 1/2 year contact

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,457

    He wants out and we want him out. Wages are putting off clubs no doubt. I'm sure he will go on loan to St. T ? With Charlton picking up the lions share of wages. Another bad piece of business by the regime.

    Tex was only a bad piece of Business because we got relegated, he was signed to try and keep us up and was never going to manage that on his own.

    Along with Buyens and Bulot he's the best Network signing we've made in my opinion, a great Defender!!
    Financially, this is one of the most costly deals since the clowns took over.

    He seems to be a decent footballer but we were virtually relegated when we bought him. Another ridiculous signing wasting a load more money.

    I'd rate this as a more costly signing than the Polish dude.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,608
    Bauer, Teixeria, Pearce, Konsa and Lennon is quite possibly the best centre back selection the third tier has ever seen, with Diarra and RoJo as well (Roger is half decent at this level, but obviously also a scumbag)

    I think he'll leave but at the same time I wish he'd stay, play alongside Bauer and just dominate every team that plays us
  • Mrkinski said:

    Here's a bit of free advice for the regime - if you can't sell Tex, instead of giving him to another team and paying most of his wages - use him in our defence!

    Exactly this... He's already played in the pre-season for us and was part of the team building in Austria (i.e. If he wasnt part of the plans then why not leave him home with the U21s like Bikey the year before)

    Surely he doesnt have a Clause which says he gets a pay rise if he plays too many games seeing that he's only six months into a four year deal, because of all this I do still believe he's injured
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735
    I said when he was signed that Charlton overpaid for a player at the back end of his career, but that was the hole that the club that club had dug themselves and they have kept on digging ever since.

    Katrien Meire's negotiating skills and Charlton's desperate situation have lumbered us with players who don't want to be here on long contracts that we can't afford and that nobody else wants to take on. In the real world, she would have been sacked two years ago, but of course, as far as Duchatelet is concerned she is fireproof, bulletproof, indestructible and untouchable. I hope everyone enjoys their little chat with her before the game this afternoon (if she turns up on time!)
  • Back end of his career... He's only just turned 30... He's got years left in him
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,485

    Back end of his career... He's only just turned 30... He's got years left in him

    4 of them on contract to Charlton
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,569

    Back end of his career... He's only just turned 30... He's got years left in him

    4 of them on contract to Charlton
    5.

    He's only done half a season on a 5.5 years contract
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    He must have known when he joined that there was a good chance of us being relegated, so , he must have been persuaded by a good package. Cant see him AND Bauer staying - but if we do keep PB,Kashi and Diarra then we will have a defence and midfield that will, on paper, be one of the strongest in this league (if they ever recover from their injuires).
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,823
    I find it hard to believe that Slade wouldn't want a player of Teixeira's quality in a squad allegedly pushing for promotion.
    I'm also more surprised that despite our best efforts to sell him nobody in the championship will take him.

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,485
    Dazzler21 said:

    Back end of his career... He's only just turned 30... He's got years left in him

    4 of them on contract to Charlton
    5.

    He's only done half a season on a 5.5 years contract
    4.5 deal
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,300
    Ridiculous... Tex looked very good. Ba on the other hand
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539
    I think the regime are a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't on this one. They threw a good amount of money around in wages on players of decent quality (albeit ones not necessarily fit at the time). In Tex, they signed a player who they (or Riga) thought was quality, and signed him to a deal that allowed them to get him and then to dictate the terms by which he left. They assumed, as did I, that if we got relegated he could be offloaded via a loan. I still suspect that is possible but the club are (hopefully) doing the smart thing and waiting to see the best offers they get (unlike with JBG and Cousins). I don't know that they're ready to hold onto him until January but it's always fun to dream.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,569

    Dazzler21 said:

    Back end of his career... He's only just turned 30... He's got years left in him

    4 of them on contract to Charlton
    5.

    He's only done half a season on a 5.5 years contract
    4.5 deal
    You're correct. I'll take my comment back.
  • Mrkinski said:

    Here's a bit of free advice for the regime - if you can't sell Tex, instead of giving him to another team and paying most of his wages - use him in our defence!

    Exactly this.

    Also despite the article above, i can't believe that Slade would want him out. A manager surely wants every good player he can get.
  • Surely the reasoning behind this is that Slade is working to a pre-set budget? IE Slade wants to bring in a couple of players he feels happy with (or happier with) but to do that 1-2 have to leave?

    Otherwise ditching Texeira doesn't make sense - he'd be an excellent centre half at this level.
  • "No more major departures". Then out goes THD, BA and Tex potentially if the article HI is accurate. Two senior players, one promising up and coming player and about 15% of our entire squad. Lol
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,485
    Dazzler21 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Back end of his career... He's only just turned 30... He's got years left in him

    4 of them on contract to Charlton
    5.

    He's only done half a season on a 5.5 years contract
    4.5 deal
    You're correct. I'll take my comment back.
    always a good idea to check the headline on a thread first : - )
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,030
    If they're waiting til the window deadline I hope they don't get an offer for Bauer.
    No one wants Tex, Derby ring Katrien on deadline day and offer £100k for Bauer. Bye bye BFG.
  • SDAddick said:

    I think the regime are a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't on this one. They threw a good amount of money around in wages on players of decent quality (albeit ones not necessarily fit at the time). In Tex, they signed a player who they (or Riga) thought was quality, and signed him to a deal that allowed them to get him and then to dictate the terms by which he left. They assumed, as did I, that if we got relegated he could be offloaded via a loan. I still suspect that is possible but the club are (hopefully) doing the smart thing and waiting to see the best offers they get (unlike with JBG and Cousins). I don't know that they're ready to hold onto him until January but it's always fun to dream.

    I dont agree SD.

    Id be really happy for Tex to stay and be part of a decent team.

    The notion that we have to loan him out and pay a large percentage of his wages is ridiculous. The blame is 100% on muggy Staprix once again.

    Could we only find one player in the whole wide world last year then? Rigas mate or nobody was it? So we give him a deal total out of step with normality?

    Staprix is not a network like the Pozzo Udinese/Watford one because its just a plaything run by a decrepid old man and his bit on the side/illegitimate daughter. They know fuk all about football.

    GET OUT ROLAND

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  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735
    edited August 2016

    Back end of his career... He's only just turned 30... He's got years left in him

    Look at the player stats of any major sport. After 30 the only trend for player performance is downwards (unless they're on drugs!)

    Charlton were desperate when they signed him so Tex's agent took Meire to the cleaner's.
  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293
    I assumed he was injured, but obviously we are not playing incase he gets injured and we can't sell him.

    Joke of a club, we had to put up with Johnson for 2 games we didn't need to.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539

    SDAddick said:

    I think the regime are a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't on this one. They threw a good amount of money around in wages on players of decent quality (albeit ones not necessarily fit at the time). In Tex, they signed a player who they (or Riga) thought was quality, and signed him to a deal that allowed them to get him and then to dictate the terms by which he left. They assumed, as did I, that if we got relegated he could be offloaded via a loan. I still suspect that is possible but the club are (hopefully) doing the smart thing and waiting to see the best offers they get (unlike with JBG and Cousins). I don't know that they're ready to hold onto him until January but it's always fun to dream.

    I dont agree SD.

    Id be really happy for Tex to stay and be part of a decent team.

    The notion that we have to loan him out and pay a large percentage of his wages is ridiculous. The blame is 100% on muggy Staprix once again.

    Could we only find one player in the whole wide world last year then? Rigas mate or nobody was it? So we give him a deal total out of step with normality?

    Staprix is not a network like the Pozzo Udinese/Watford one because its just a plaything run by a decrepid old man and his bit on the side/illegitimate daughter. They know fuk all about football.

    GET OUT ROLAND
    The notion that we have to loan him out and subsidize his wages is something we don't know. Presumably, it's something the club are trying to avoid by waiting for offers. As far as bringing him in, he came in last year, walked right into the team, and looked very good at that level every time I saw him, not to mention popping up with a couple crucial goals and being very good on the ball. By the time we brought him in, the mistakes had been made, but I don't agree that he was a mistake because he was coming from a club who used to be part of the network or because he'd worked with Riga before. In fact, that's the way that the network should have been working this whole time.

    I think it's also worth noting that we are assuming that we're subsidizing wages for Igor and Watt, but I don't know that we know that.

    I certainly agree that the network is ridiculously poorly run. And how much of a network there is, and what its purpose is now that SL are no longer RD owned, are huge questions. I just don't think this particular case is an example of total network failure.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,457
    SDAddick said:

    SDAddick said:

    I think the regime are a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't on this one. They threw a good amount of money around in wages on players of decent quality (albeit ones not necessarily fit at the time). In Tex, they signed a player who they (or Riga) thought was quality, and signed him to a deal that allowed them to get him and then to dictate the terms by which he left. They assumed, as did I, that if we got relegated he could be offloaded via a loan. I still suspect that is possible but the club are (hopefully) doing the smart thing and waiting to see the best offers they get (unlike with JBG and Cousins). I don't know that they're ready to hold onto him until January but it's always fun to dream.

    I dont agree SD.

    Id be really happy for Tex to stay and be part of a decent team.

    The notion that we have to loan him out and pay a large percentage of his wages is ridiculous. The blame is 100% on muggy Staprix once again.

    Could we only find one player in the whole wide world last year then? Rigas mate or nobody was it? So we give him a deal total out of step with normality?

    Staprix is not a network like the Pozzo Udinese/Watford one because its just a plaything run by a decrepid old man and his bit on the side/illegitimate daughter. They know fuk all about football.

    GET OUT ROLAND
    The notion that we have to loan him out and subsidize his wages is something we don't know. Presumably, it's something the club are trying to avoid by waiting for offers. As far as bringing him in, he came in last year, walked right into the team, and looked very good at that level every time I saw him, not to mention popping up with a couple crucial goals and being very good on the ball. By the time we brought him in, the mistakes had been made, but I don't agree that he was a mistake because he was coming from a club who used to be part of the network or because he'd worked with Riga before. In fact, that's the way that the network should have been working this whole time.

    I think it's also worth noting that we are assuming that we're subsidizing wages for Igor and Watt, but I don't know that we know that.

    I certainly agree that the network is ridiculously poorly run. And how much of a network there is, and what its purpose is now that SL are no longer RD owned, are huge questions. I just don't think this particular case is an example of total network failure.
    Network failure or not, it was not(another) a sensible signing.
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,595
    SDAddick said:

    SDAddick said:

    I think the regime are a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't on this one. They threw a good amount of money around in wages on players of decent quality (albeit ones not necessarily fit at the time). In Tex, they signed a player who they (or Riga) thought was quality, and signed him to a deal that allowed them to get him and then to dictate the terms by which he left. They assumed, as did I, that if we got relegated he could be offloaded via a loan. I still suspect that is possible but the club are (hopefully) doing the smart thing and waiting to see the best offers they get (unlike with JBG and Cousins). I don't know that they're ready to hold onto him until January but it's always fun to dream.

    I dont agree SD.

    Id be really happy for Tex to stay and be part of a decent team.

    The notion that we have to loan him out and pay a large percentage of his wages is ridiculous. The blame is 100% on muggy Staprix once again.

    Could we only find one player in the whole wide world last year then? Rigas mate or nobody was it? So we give him a deal total out of step with normality?

    Staprix is not a network like the Pozzo Udinese/Watford one because its just a plaything run by a decrepid old man and his bit on the side/illegitimate daughter. They know fuk all about football.

    GET OUT ROLAND
    The notion that we have to loan him out and subsidize his wages is something we don't know. Presumably, it's something the club are trying to avoid by waiting for offers. As far as bringing him in, he came in last year, walked right into the team, and looked very good at that level every time I saw him, not to mention popping up with a couple crucial goals and being very good on the ball. By the time we brought him in, the mistakes had been made, but I don't agree that he was a mistake because he was coming from a club who used to be part of the network or because he'd worked with Riga before. In fact, that's the way that the network should have been working this whole time.

    I think it's also worth noting that we are assuming that we're subsidizing wages for Igor and Watt, but I don't know that we know that.

    I certainly agree that the network is ridiculously poorly run. And how much of a network there is, and what its purpose is now that SL are no longer RD owned, are huge questions. I just don't think this particular case is an example of total network failure.
    Hearts average player wage last season was just over £1200 pw. I've no idea what Watt's wages are but it's safe to say more than £5k per month so we are subsidising his wages and maybe quite a lot.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,231
    Tex was at the game today in his (obligatory) navy blue suit - but no shirt and tie (rebel) just a white T-shirt. Looked completely disinterested and spent nearly all of the game on his phone.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,457
    cafc-west said:

    Tex was at the game today in his (obligatory) navy blue suit - but no shirt and tie (rebel) just a white T-shirt. Looked completely disinterested and spent nearly all of the game on his phone.

    Like a few thousand others!
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,877
    Doesn't look like he's going to meet the 'you have to want to fight for the shirt' Slade test, and so we will once again lose money on his inevitable departure.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,500
    Why is he called the fly?