Jorge Teixeira (The Fly) signed from Standard Liege - 4 1/2 year contact

Just my opinion but i don't think Tex is as good as some make out, much rather have Bauer.

Where's his throwback to the nil nil draw at home to MK Dons?

thenewbie said:

cafctom said:

Sounds like he was trying everything to get a move away even though he should have known what he was getting himself into by signing a long contract with a side in the relegation zone.

No sympathy for him at all I'm afraid

He was probably trying no harder to get out than RS was trying to get rid of him in fairness. RS for practical and financial reasons perhaps, but Tex will be fully aware the club are trying to move him on post haste. Can't really blame the bloke for wanting out, in fact if anything I find it laudable that he'd rather be playing somewhere and taking a potential pay cut than sitting on his backside raking in cash for no effort.

I don't know about you but I can't see RoJo having the same kind of passion and integrity somehow...

Yep, I can. Sign a 4.5 year deal with a team in the relegation zone, you go into it knowing you might be playing football a league down the next year. If you don't want to play in the lower league that much, make sure there's a get out clause in the contract. If not then suck it up. Now, if Tex comes into the team and gives 100% effort then good on him, but if he's not bothered then sod him.

I should imagine it's more a case of Charlton wanting him (his wages) out, rather than Tex wanting out.

Dazzler21 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

He'll be gone in January. If I'm honest I can't see him featuring between now and then unless we have a crisis.

Truly one of the biggest cock ups this regime has made and there is a lot of competition.

He's better than most of our players at the back but I'd be surprised to know why many don't think he'll feature.

I don't think he should get in ahead of Pearce, Konsa or Bauer. He'll be gone in January and certainly don't think he should be in the team because he's on a good contract.

I know "anybody" could be gone in January. He is a good player, but doesn't warrant a place just because he's on the books.

Absolutely laughable to give him high wages and a long contract when any idiot could see we were as good as relegated.

ShootersHillGuru said:

He won't feature because of a mysterious niggling injury. Loan in January.

You would not bet against it.

cafcsinger said:

Just my opinion but i don't think Tex is as good as some make out, much rather have Bauer.

Completely agree.

Tex is stuck with us and we are stuck with him until January at least.

It's going to be difficult for Tex to get a move unless he's playing well and someone is willing to take a punt on his wages so it's in his own interests as much as our own to get him on the pitch and playing to his full potential. If he's playing well he'll attract interest from clubs willing to push the boat out being January. If he's playing well and we keep clean sheets and win games we may well be in the mix for promotion in which case he may well get the Championship football he signed up for and in which case he can put this year down to his own judgement of signing a 4.5 year contract with a team in the relegation zone.

I'd certainly have Tex back in the squad, as much as I like Konsa he shouldn't be relied upon, he's good but he's not Bauer, Pearce or Tex and still very young though I would phase Tex back in, sit him on the bench and make him dislodge Pearce or Bauer or wait for the inevitable injuries or suspensions to kick in.

I suspect that he didn't, especially, want to come to us but SL wanted rid of him and we were desperate. We gave Roger f**king Johnson an eighteen month deal because we were desperate and Teixeira's Agent obviously was as good as negotiating as Johnson's. How we were bullied into giving Teixeira a four and a half year deal at 29 is beyond me but I suspect that RD or KM believed that he'd keep us up and it was worth it.

As for the player he would have known that irrespective as to what he does from now on he is guaranteed the full value of his contract - unless he waives it, and why should he? So he is guaranteed to be earning very good (I assume) money until two months short of his 34th birthday. Why would he ever give that guarantee up? I, seriously, doubt that he will be offered more than we are obligated to pay him and as the months, and years go by, that becomes more and more true. If he goes out on loan we will probably have to pay some of his wages all the while the 'value' that he has that can earn him a permanent deal diminishes.

At the risk of making statements that are not popular and, possibly, untrue I suspect that he will not be willing to move if it involves a pay cut so we are probably going to have to release him on a free and give him a payoff to compensate him for the reduction in wages and/or contract term. Something tells me that KM is the only person on the planet that would sanction a deal that guarantees him the money he in on until he is 33 years and 10 months old.

The question is if we are stuck with him what do we do about it? Bauer is probably more saleable and could justify another contract like the one he has with us so they could sell him in January and keep Teixeira. Thankfully the club haven't sold 'better' players and kept the rubbish - they have, generally, moved on the crap that they have landed themselves with so maybe they will pay Teixeira off in January.

However, I thought he was a good player last season and he must be way too good for this division so if he's fit I'd play him. Just an issue as we now have, arguably, five of the best ten centre halves in the division.

thing is, we have struggled to get rid of him in this window and he hasnt played. Surely if he doesnt play now for 6 months, it makes him even harder to get rid of come January with no-one wanting to take a punt on a guy who hasnt played in 7/8 months

Taking the goals he scored towards the end of the last season out of the equation as well as our stupendously small squad, is Tex really that much of an asset to us?

Covered End said:

SheedyCAFC said:

Taking the goals he scored towards the end of the last season out of the equation as well as our stupendously small squad, is Tex really that much of an asset to us?

Yes, see above.

Given the signing of Pearce, along with the developement of Konsa, he is certainly one of the players we could have afforded to lose. We now have 5 CBs capable of starting in this division and RoJo too.

That said, he is still an outstanding player at this level so would be silly to freeze him out.

cafc4life said:

thing is, we have struggled to get rid of him in this window and he hasnt played. Surely if he doesnt play now for 6 months, it makes him even harder to get rid of come January with no-one wanting to take a punt on a guy who hasnt played in 7/8 months

given, as the only team that would then buy him would be.....us......

Henry Irving said:

kings hill addick said:

I suspect that he didn't, especially, want to come to us but SL wanted rid of him and we were desperate. We gave Roger f**king Johnson an eighteen month deal because we were desperate and Teixeira's Agent obviously was as good as negotiating as Johnson's. How we were bullied into giving Teixeira a four and a half year deal at 29 is beyond me but I suspect that RD or KM believed that he'd keep us up and it was worth it.

As for the player he would have known that irrespective as to what he does from now on he is guaranteed the full value of his contract - unless he waives it, and why should he? So he is guaranteed to be earning very good (I assume) money until two months short of his 34th birthday. Why would he ever give that guarantee up? I, seriously, doubt that he will be offered more than we are obligated to pay him and as the months, and years go by, that becomes more and more true. If he goes out on loan we will probably have to pay some of his wages all the while the 'value' that he has that can earn him a permanent deal diminishes.

At the risk of making statements that are not popular and, possibly, untrue I suspect that he will not be willing to move if it involves a pay cut so we are probably going to have to release him on a free and give him a payoff to compensate him for the reduction in wages and/or contract term. Something tells me that KM is the only person on the planet that would sanction a deal that guarantees him the money he in on until he is 33 years and 10 months old.

The question is if we are stuck with him what do we do about it? Bauer is probably more saleable and could justify another contract like the one he has with us so they could sell him in January and keep Teixeira. Thankfully the club haven't sold 'better' players and kept the rubbish - they have, generally, moved on the crap that they have landed themselves with so maybe they will pay Teixeira off in January.

However, I thought he was a good player last season and he must be way too good for this division so if he's fit I'd play him. Just an issue as we now have, arguably, five of the best ten centre halves in the division.

Agree with nearly all of that especially that Tex will know that he's on a good thing here so why leave? We could also be back in the Championship for much of his contract.

I disagree about the 2nd to last para about not selling the better players. We sold JBG, Cousins, Henderson and Pope and loaned out Watt and Igor. Sure we also moved on Sarr et al but the core of our better players left as you would expect for a relegated club (although Bolton only sold one major player I believe).

Yeah, you're right, they have sold some of the best players - probably for the transfer fee as much as reducing the wages. It is my understanding, also, that the players that have left wanted to go, rather than us 'pushing them out'. What I meant, though, is that they might try to keep some of the better, younger, players and push Tex out rather than accepting that he is going to stay so we sell Bauer and/or Lennon and Konsa to equalise the wage bill.