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Fleetwood v Charlton - Player Marks

Those at the Highbury Stadium, your marks kindly please

Rudd
Solly
Konsa
Pearce
Fox
Holmes
Crofts
Ulvestad
Lookman
Ajose
Magennis
Novak
Botaka n/a
Foley n/a
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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,273

    Rudd 6
    Solly 6
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6
    Fox 6
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 5
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 6
    Ajose 5
    Magennis 6
    Novak 6
    Botaka n/a
    Foley n/a
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,846
    edited September 2016
    Rudd 6 slow to release mostly and started the errors that led to first goal
    Solly 6 didn't seem up for it
    Fox 6 some awful passing but improved towards the end
    Konsa 6.5 good experience and did well
    Pearce 6.5 solid but could have died after the ref failed to blow after his head injury
    Crofts 4 had a mare, passing awful and offered defence no protection
    Ulvestad 6 some nice touches but needs help sometimes
    Lookman 6.5 gave away lots of fouls but always positive
    Holmes 7.5 always trying and good cross for the first goal
    Ajose 4 tried hard but poor performance
    Maggennis 8 why start him wide right? Good goal and lots of effort
    Novak 6.5 took time to get into the game but in right place at right time for his goal

    Ref wants shooting, and should be embarrassed by that late head injury decision!
  • Rudd 6
    Solly 6
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6
    Fox 5
    Holmes 6
    Crofts 5
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 5
    Ajose 4
    Magennis 7
    Novak 6
    Botaka and Foley changed it all to little to late.

  • Rudd 6.5
    Solly 6.5
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6
    Fox 4
    Holmes 6
    Crofts 4
    Ulvestad 4.5
    Lookman 6
    Ajose 5
    Magennis 8
    Novak 7.5
    Botaka n/a
    Foley n/a
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,650
    edited September 2016
    Rudd 6 not at fault for the goals and didn't need to make a proper save
    Solly 6 getting slower but he and Konsa work well together
    Konsa 6 maybe at fault for the 2nd goal, but an assured performance
    Pearce 4 at fault for the first goal and gave the ball away a lot
    Fox 6 put in a few good crosses in 2nd half, defended ok
    Holmes 6 tried hard but shot rather than passed when in a good position
    Crofts 4 gave the ball away a lot
    Ulvestad 5 a bit anonamous
    Lookman 5.5 must learn to tackle as gave away quite a few fouls
    Ajose 5 ran about a lot but no end product
    Magennis 6.5 our own beast, a proper No 9 and a great goal
    Novak 6 was in the right place to bundle the ball over the line
    Botaka made a difference and his work made the 2nd goal

    The ref was from Lancashire and it showed, not stopping the game when there was an obvious head injury was very poor.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,889
    edited September 2016
    Rudd 6 Can't remember any notable saves he made
    Solly 6 Stuck to his task
    Konsa 6.5 Cool under pressure for his age ok on the ball
    Pearce 6.5 The old head at the back comfortable on the ball
    Fox 5.5 Fox of old at times today with aimless passes better 2nd half
    Holmes 7 Kept probing overdid it at times
    Crofts 6 Didn't really notice him contribute much, booked for giving the ref a deserved volley for not stopping play when Pearce out cold with head injury.
    Ulvestad 6 Tidy neat passes not sure about box to box, backs off a lot rather than tackle
    Lookman 6.5 Good to see him start, some good runs but over played it at times
    Ajose 5.5 I saw his goals at Walsall, snatched at his only chance today but he doesn't work hard enough for me rightly subbed second half.
    Magennis 8 Tireless worker thoroughly deserved his goal
    Novak 7.5 Made a difference when he came on against their big lumps at the back took his goal well booked for celebration yet their scorer who did the same and gave it to us, wasn't!
    Botaka 7 Earned us a point combining with Foley, looked mustard they couldn't handle him
    Foley n/a couldn't understand his introduction although he was involved in build up with Botaka to set up Novak.

    Referee 1 inconsistent, fussy, didn't understand the advantage rule or immediate cessation of play for a head injury completely out of his depth.
  • Rudd 5.5
    Solly 5.5
    Konsa 5.5
    Pearce 5.5
    Fox 6
    Holmes 6
    Crofts 5
    Ulvestad 4
    Lookman 5
    Ajose 4
    Magennis 6
    Novak 6
    Botaka n/a liked what we saw.
    Foley n/a

  • Rudd 6
    Solly 6
    Konsa 6.5
    Pearce 6
    Fox 5
    Holmes 6.5
    Crofts 6
    Ulvestad 5.5
    Lookman 6
    Ajose 5.5
    Magennis 6.5
    Novak 6.5
    Botaka 7
    Foley 6.5
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,778
    edited September 2016
    Rudd 6 No saves, can't be blamed for goals
    Solly 6 Defensively sound but below his best
    Fox 6 defensively ok, passing was terrible or good - part of it is that we need a more dominant midfield.
    Konsa 6 Will be an excellent player, but surely time for Bauer
    Pearce 6 so so
    Crofts 5 Game passed him buy - he passed to opposition
    Ulvestad 5 Tidy but not box to box - effortlessley filled Foley's shoes which I'm not sure was the point! Maybe fitness!
    Lookman 6.5 Tried hard and became more influential as game went on - should be playing centrally - especially now Botaka has shown he has to start at this level.
    Holmes 7 aPoistive, not his best, assist for first, should have done better in second half when he had a lot of time to pick his spot. Not his best is still decent.
    Ajose 4 Poor control, missed a sitter, no power - not his best
    Maggennis 9 I though he was terrific all round and stand out player on the pitch.

    Special mention to Botaka - they couldn't play him when he came on.


  • Rudd 6
    Solly 7
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 5
    Fox 7
    Holmes 7.5
    Crofts 4
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 6.5
    Ajose 4
    Magennis 8
    Novak 7
    Botaka n/a
    Foley n/a


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  • Rudd 6
    Solly 6
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6
    Fox 6
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 5
    Ulvestad 4
    Lookman 5
    Ajose 4
    Magennis 7
    Novak 6.5
  • RedChaser said:

    Rudd 6 Can't remember any notable saves he made
    Solly 6 Stuck to his task
    Konsa 6.5 Cool under pressure for his age ok on the ball
    Pearce 6.5 The old head at the back comfortable on the ball
    Fox 5.5 Fox of old at times today with aimless passes better 2nd half
    Holmes 7 Kept probing overdid it at times
    Crofts 6 Didn't really notice him contribute much, booked for giving the ref a deserved volley for not stopping play when Pearce out cold with head injury.
    Ulvestad 6 Tidy neat passes not sure about box to box, backs off a lot rather than tackle
    Lookman 6.5 Good to see him start, some good runs but over played it at times
    Ajose 5.5 I saw his goals at Walsall, snatched at his only chance today but he doesn't work hard enough for me rightly subbed second half.
    Magennis 8 Tireless worker thoroughly deserved his goal
    Novak 7.5 Made a difference when he came on against their big lumps at the back took his goal well booked for celebration yet their scorer who did the same and gave it to us, wasn't!
    Botaka 7 Earned us a point combining with Foley, looked mustard they couldn't handle him
    Foley n/a couldn't understand his introduction although he was involved in build up with Botaka to set up Novak.

    Referee 1 inconsistent, fussy, didn't understand the advantage rule or immediate cessation of play for a head injury completely out of his depth.

    It was Novak booked for dissent after the Pearce head injury, not Crofts, so none of our players were booked for the goal celebration!
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,832
    Rudd 6
    Solly 6.5
    Konsa 6.5
    Pearce 6
    Fox 6.5
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 5
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 6.5
    Ajose 3
    Magennis 6.5
    Novak 6
  • RedChaser said:

    Rudd 6 Can't remember any notable saves he made
    Solly 6 Stuck to his task
    Konsa 6.5 Cool under pressure for his age ok on the ball
    Pearce 6.5 The old head at the back comfortable on the ball
    Fox 5.5 Fox of old at times today with aimless passes better 2nd half
    Holmes 7 Kept probing overdid it at times
    Crofts 6 Didn't really notice him contribute much, booked for giving the ref a deserved volley for not stopping play when Pearce out cold with head injury.
    Ulvestad 6 Tidy neat passes not sure about box to box, backs off a lot rather than tackle
    Lookman 6.5 Good to see him start, some good runs but over played it at times
    Ajose 5.5 I saw his goals at Walsall, snatched at his only chance today but he doesn't work hard enough for me rightly subbed second half.
    Magennis 8 Tireless worker thoroughly deserved his goal
    Novak 7.5 Made a difference when he came on against their big lumps at the back took his goal well booked for celebration yet their scorer who did the same and gave it to us, wasn't!
    Botaka 7 Earned us a point combining with Foley, looked mustard they couldn't handle him
    Foley n/a couldn't understand his introduction although he was involved in build up with Botaka to set up Novak.

    Referee 1 inconsistent, fussy, didn't understand the advantage rule or immediate cessation of play for a head injury completely out of his depth.

    It was Novak booked for dissent after the Pearce head injury, not Crofts, so none of our players were booked for the goal celebration!
    One was definitely booked after the goal.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,889
    edited September 2016

    RedChaser said:

    Rudd 6 Can't remember any notable saves he made
    Solly 6 Stuck to his task
    Konsa 6.5 Cool under pressure for his age ok on the ball
    Pearce 6.5 The old head at the back comfortable on the ball
    Fox 5.5 Fox of old at times today with aimless passes better 2nd half
    Holmes 7 Kept probing overdid it at times
    Crofts 6 Didn't really notice him contribute much, booked for giving the ref a deserved volley for not stopping play when Pearce out cold with head injury.
    Ulvestad 6 Tidy neat passes not sure about box to box, backs off a lot rather than tackle
    Lookman 6.5 Good to see him start, some good runs but over played it at times
    Ajose 5.5 I saw his goals at Walsall, snatched at his only chance today but he doesn't work hard enough for me rightly subbed second half.
    Magennis 8 Tireless worker thoroughly deserved his goal
    Novak 7.5 Made a difference when he came on against their big lumps at the back took his goal well booked for celebration yet their scorer who did the same and gave it to us, wasn't!
    Botaka 7 Earned us a point combining with Foley, looked mustard they couldn't handle him
    Foley n/a couldn't understand his introduction although he was involved in build up with Botaka to set up Novak.

    Referee 1 inconsistent, fussy, didn't understand the advantage rule or immediate cessation of play for a head injury completely out of his depth.

    It was Novak booked for dissent after the Pearce head injury, not Crofts, so none of our players were booked for the goal celebration!
    Well @killerandflash according to the BBC Sport Novak was booked for the Goal celebration :smirk: which if he was then booked for having a go at the referee he should have been sent off for two reds no?

    What is for certain, one of us needs to go to spec savers perhaps both even as BBC didn't show a yellow against Crofts :wink: .
  • Rudd - 6
    Solly -6.5
    Konsa - 6
    Pearce -6
    Fox - 5
    Holmes - 6.5
    Crofts- 5
    Ulvestad -5
    Lookman -6
    Ajose -5
    Magennis -7
    Novak -7 (100% booked for dissent at Pearce inicdent)
    Botaka n/a
    Foley n/a
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,563
    Rudd 6
    Solly 7
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6
    Fox 5
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 6
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 6
    Ajose 5
    Magennis 6.5
    Novak 6.5
  • Rudd 6
    Solly 6
    Konsa 7
    Pearce 6
    Fox 6
    Holmes 6
    Crofts 6
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 6
    Ajose 5
    Magennis 7
    Novak 7
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,998
    edited September 2016
    Rudd 6 missed the first goal though as I wasn't allowed to take chips in
    Solly 6
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6
    Fox 7
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 6
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 6
    Ajose 5
    Magennis 7
    Novak 6


  • Rudd 6
    Solly 6
    Konsa 7
    Pearce 6
    Fox 6
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 5
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 7
    Ajose 5
    Magennis 8 mom
    Novak 7
    Botaka n/a
    Foley n/a

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  • Rudd - 6 Should have done better with the first goal. A top goalkeeper should not be beaten from that distance, by a shot hit with that amount of power.
    Solly - 5.5 Reliable, but didn't pull up any trees. Has become targeted by opposition sides, who try to isolate him against a big striker. (If you don't believe me, watch Northampton's goal at The Valley.) We were lucky when 1-0 down when he allowed a big striker a free run and header which, luckily, went over the bar.
    Konsa - 5.5 OK, but the second goal is down to him. Terribly over hit pass to Ulvestad. Good in the air, but struggled against Fleetwood's swift skillful strikers.
    Pearce - 7 Didn't put a foot wrong, until nearly killed by a Fleetwood player. One of the worst pieces of refereeing I've ever seen. And that is saying something...
    Fox - 7 Really top performance. See comments on Solly above. It all changed when when Foxy was moved over from the left to the right for dead ball deliveries, and that particular avenue was instantly snuffed out. But, hey, let's never admit that "Mr. Scapegoat" digs "Captain Fantastic" out of a hole. Also, produced a number of excellent crosses in the 2nd half. I can't remember a single one by Solly.
    Holmes - 7 Still our most creative player. Works so hard, even when we don't have the ball. Great cross for Magennis leveller.
    Crofts - 6 A usual performance in the engine room. So fit, never stops running.
    Ulvestad - 5.5 OK. More forward looking than either Foley or Crofts, but perhaps if we are playing both Holmes and Lookman, the more defensive a tributes of Foley are more of a requirement?
    Lookman - 5 As ineffective as Ajose, as shown by a corner he took late on. Despite both centre backs going up, and both Novak and Magennis being in the box, he decided to hit the corner back to Solly, who was a good 30 yards from the goal. He then telegraphed it, and under hit it so badly that it was easy for the ball to be intercepted. Can not remember him hitting a single corner or cross anywhere near a Charlton shirt. I know we all like a player from our academy coming good, but too many rose coloured spectacles on here, who do not see Ade's short comings.
    Ajose - 5 Poor game. Can not hold the ball up, and not making any decent runs. The way Novak played, may be time to give him a kick up the proverbials...
    Magennis - 8 MOTM Excellent work rate again, winning header after header. So pleased for him when he scored. The Fleetwood defenders were unable to cope with him. Josh and Fleetwood's Ball were clearly the best players on the pitch.
    Novak - 6.5 Not quick, but runs the first 10 yards in his head, so gets in good positions. One sublime chip from tight on the goal line which may have challenged Holmes goal against Shrewsbury for goal of the season. Big, strong, holds the ball up well.
    Botaka n/a From zero to hero. Called by some on here "shit" on the back of less than half an hour's football, to being a "must start" on less than half an hour's football... As responsible for the turn around as anybody, with his pace, trickery, and direct running.
    Foley n/a Another who is consistently slagged off. Now has an assist to his name. Now you have seen Ulvestad (who I don't think had as bad a game as some of you make out), is Foley that bad? Or, as I say, if we are going to play both Holmes and Lookman, isn't it more sensible to have 2 more defensive minded midfielders in the engine room?

    I am not going to pick out individual scores, but was astounded by some of the low scores given on here to some of our players, and wondered if I was at a different game. So I checked the stats. Charlton had 53% possession. Sixteen shots, with six on target. Exactly the same as Fleetwood. Fleetwood had 3 corners, to Charlton's 8. So, I came to the conclusion that I was at the right game, and some of you were at the wrong one instead...
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,889
    edited September 2016
    Calm down, calm down @East_Stand_Loopy as it happens Solly's total 110.5, Fox's total 105 from 18 sets of marks what's the big deal? They were much of a muchness. It's all about opinions or are only yours valid?
  • Rudd - 6
    Solly 6.5
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6.5
    Fox 6
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 6
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 7
    Ajose 6
    Magennis 8
    Novak 7
  • RedPanda said:

    Rudd 6 missed the first goal though as I wasn't allowed to take chips in
    Solly 6
    Konsa 6
    Pearce 6
    Fox 7
    Holmes 7
    Crofts 6
    Ulvestad 5
    Lookman 6
    Ajose 5
    Magennis 7
    Novak 6

    I'm confused. You weren't allowed to take in chips so Rudd missed the ball?
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,362
    edited September 2016
    @RedChaser

    doesn't like people who disagree shocker!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,889
    edited September 2016
    Redhenry said:

    @Red Chaser

    doesn't like people who disagree shocker!

    I don't mind people who disagree it's those that sneak in a snidey lol instead of having a grown up exchange of views which I'm pleased to say we did.........eventually :wink:
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,362
    Haha predictable
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,889
    Touche !
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,362
    Sorry @RedChaser prob a bit over the top but fed up with constant negative comments
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,889
    edited September 2016
    Redhenry said:

    Sorry @RedChaser prob a bit over the top but fed up with constant negative comments

    No worries mate I'm a big boy, I give it sometimes so expect to get some back.

    Lancs won't be happy though with all those of us that have ignored his mantra of marks and supporting comments only on this thread...............Solly Stato :wink: