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I am not picking on Sharon personally, she is obviously just doing as she is told, but the point I am making is that the attitude is indicative of the way things are going. Nobody seems to care about what is upsetting the people who have supported the club and academy by way of season tickets and valley gold contributions for many years, what kind of way is that to run a business?se9addick said:I think that reply from Sharron was fair enough, she's just doing her job and that doesn't include answering questions about future payments or the strategy of the football club, how could she possibly ?
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His original email explained why he wasn't renewing, if she had just replied with a 'why' or 'what can change your mind' she would have been slated for not 'listening to customers' by actually reading the email!bexleyaddick said:
I am not picking on Sharon personally, she is obviously just doing as she is told, but the point I am making is that the attitude is indicative of the way things are going. Nobody seems to care about what is upsetting the people who have supported the club and academy by way of season tickets and valley gold contributions for many years, what kind of way is that to run a business?se9addick said:I think that reply from Sharron was fair enough, she's just doing her job and that doesn't include answering questions about future payments or the strategy of the football club, how could she possibly ?
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When I threatened to pull out moons ago , I can't remember why , Steve Dixon rang me up and persuaded me to stay in it0
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But surely something like " would you reconsider?" would not hurt? Its just basic common sense and good business practise, we have all been on here moaning about how the club doesn't care about us and how badly they are running it and surely this kind of attitude towards the loss of our contributions just serves to prove us correct?To_Be_Franck said:
His original email explained why he wasn't renewing, if she had just replied with a 'why' or 'what can change your mind' she would have been slated for not 'listening to customers' by actually reading the email!bexleyaddick said:
I am not picking on Sharon personally, she is obviously just doing as she is told, but the point I am making is that the attitude is indicative of the way things are going. Nobody seems to care about what is upsetting the people who have supported the club and academy by way of season tickets and valley gold contributions for many years, what kind of way is that to run a business?se9addick said:I think that reply from Sharron was fair enough, she's just doing her job and that doesn't include answering questions about future payments or the strategy of the football club, how could she possibly ?
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The guy has made a clear statement as to his reasons for not renewing and that he won't give another penny until the regime has changed. Sharron's in a no win here because if she tries to persuade she'd be accused of siding with the club and/or disrespecting the guy and the reasons given (or not listening).bexleyaddick said:
But surely something like " would you reconsider?" would not hurt? Its just basic common sense and good business practise, we have all been on here moaning about how the club doesn't care about us and how badly they are running it and surely this kind of attitude towards the loss of our contributions just serves to prove us correct?To_Be_Franck said:
His original email explained why he wasn't renewing, if she had just replied with a 'why' or 'what can change your mind' she would have been slated for not 'listening to customers' by actually reading the email!bexleyaddick said:
I am not picking on Sharon personally, she is obviously just doing as she is told, but the point I am making is that the attitude is indicative of the way things are going. Nobody seems to care about what is upsetting the people who have supported the club and academy by way of season tickets and valley gold contributions for many years, what kind of way is that to run a business?se9addick said:I think that reply from Sharron was fair enough, she's just doing her job and that doesn't include answering questions about future payments or the strategy of the football club, how could she possibly ?
Pick your targets carefully.
What she's done is respected the person's decision but left the door open should he reconsider. She's got the balance spot on in my view.
In answer to an earlier question, membership has fallen but it's far from a landslide. Social media does tend to give false perceptions of groundswell.
As for paying the club in June, Sharron already indicated that any major funding decision would be after that, later in the year meaning H2. Because of the club and VG fiscal years running July to June clearly this has already had an impact.3 -
When I contacted the Club to ask how to leave Valley Gold I got an email from Sharron asking me to reconsider and explaining all the good work the scheme was involved in. At the same time she said that if I do decide to leave she'd like to thank me for my many years of support. I thought that was a very reasonable response.
I did still decide to leave though but will go back once the regime changes.5 -
Seeing the Crossbar Challenge reminded me that I am still a member of VG. Can anyone in the know tell me if VG have given the club any of the money this year?0
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No, they didn't give them any money this summerlancashire lad said:Seeing the Crossbar Challenge reminded me that I am still a member of VG. Can anyone in the know tell me if VG have given the club any of the money this year?
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Thought of this myself...Henry Irving said:
No, they didn't give them any money this summerlancashire lad said:Seeing the Crossbar Challenge reminded me that I am still a member of VG. Can anyone in the know tell me if VG have given the club any of the money this year?
The 'advert' for the crossbar challenge at HT stated that Valley Gold we're sponsoring this (and presumably the prize money?)
Any idea how/why?0 - Sponsored links:
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Not sponsored, run by.sammy391 said:
Thought of this myself...Henry Irving said:
No, they didn't give them any money this summerlancashire lad said:Seeing the Crossbar Challenge reminded me that I am still a member of VG. Can anyone in the know tell me if VG have given the club any of the money this year?
The 'advert' for the crossbar challenge at HT stated that Valley Gold we're sponsoring this (and presumably the prize money?)
Any idea how/why?
The exciting new initiative is being run by Charlton Club, the organisation behind Valley Gold
Read more at http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-athletic-football-club-crossbar-challenge-jackpot-3303394.aspx#MmF38ja4VbwcbC82.99
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Good initiative. Pity it wont get me to rejoin.
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Said that to the girlfriend last night.oohaahmortimer said:I threatened to pull out
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Looking for a new promoter. Will be like hitting your head against a brick wall until RD/KM leave.
http://www.valleygold.org.uk/2016/09/15/vacancy-promoter-charlton-club/
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Poisoned chalice at the moment.Dansk_Red said:Looking for a new promoter. Will be like hitting your head against a brick wall until RD/KM leave.
http://www.valleygold.org.uk/2016/09/15/vacancy-promoter-charlton-club/1 -
WHY JOIN VALLEY GOLD?
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Valley Gold enables fans to support the club in unearthing the talents of tomorrow – so that they can be sold to Premiership clubs to line Roland's pockets.2 -
@jamescafc @Mametz read this thread to settle the argument. Namely the convo between HI and RF0
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What are we looking for?C4FC4L1f3 said:@jamescafc @Mametz read this thread to settle the argument. Namely the convo between HI and RF
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I'm not sure either. What page Neil?0
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Henry Irving said:
So will VG be making a donation to the club on June 2016? Yes or no
rikofold said:
The statement is what we're saying on the matter. Others have understood it.Henry Irving said:So will VG be making a donation to the club on June 2016? Yes or no
Henry Irving said:
It's a reasonable question from a member. why won't you give a straight answer?rikofold said:
The statement is what we're saying on the matter. Others have understood it.Henry Irving said:So will VG be making a donation to the club on June 2016? Yes or no
I ask again, will VG be making the planned payment to the football club in June 2016, yes or no?Henry Irving said:
It is a fair question and the longer Rich avoids it the more it seems that the answer is not one that you or I would like.stonemuse said:To be fair Rik, it's a fair question.
The statement says:
However, the supporters’ representatives felt that they could not overlook the concerns raised, and indicated that they would not consider any further major donations to the football club until later on in the year.
That could mean payment will be made in June .... which, as you know, many of us do not want.
That could be easily and quickly disproved by @rikofold giving a direct answer.
We know he opposed the idea of withholding a payment in June and argued against it.rikofold said:
I'm not avoiding the question, but the committee agreed a statement and it's not for me to make my own variation.Henry Irving said:
It is a fair question and the longer Rich avoids it the more it seems that the answer is not one that you or I would like.stonemuse said:To be fair Rik, it's a fair question.
The statement says:
However, the supporters’ representatives felt that they could not overlook the concerns raised, and indicated that they would not consider any further major donations to the football club until later on in the year.
That could mean payment will be made in June .... which, as you know, many of us do not want.
That could be easily and quickly disproved by @rikofold giving a direct answer.
We know he opposed the idea of withholding a payment in June and argued against it.
What I will say is what Sharron has already said to you Henry - that it's reasonable to assume we're talking about the second half of the year. Make of that what you will, but as I say most people seem to have understood what the statement is saying.
I'm not the enemy, try not to forget that everyone, but I am constrained by my role.Henry Irving said:
But Sharon isn't a committee member, you are and I don't want to assume incorrectly.rikofold said:
I'm not avoiding the question, but the committee agreed a statement and it's not for me to make my own variation.Henry Irving said:
It is a fair question and the longer Rich avoids it the more it seems that the answer is not one that you or I would like.stonemuse said:To be fair Rik, it's a fair question.
The statement says:
However, the supporters’ representatives felt that they could not overlook the concerns raised, and indicated that they would not consider any further major donations to the football club until later on in the year.
That could mean payment will be made in June .... which, as you know, many of us do not want.
That could be easily and quickly disproved by @rikofold giving a direct answer.
We know he opposed the idea of withholding a payment in June and argued against it.
What I will say is what Sharron has already said to you Henry - that it's reasonable to assume we're talking about the second half of the year. Make of that what you will, but as I say most people seem to have understood what the statement is saying.
I'm not the enemy, try not to forget that everyone, but I am constrained by my role.
Answer the question.rikofold said:
You have no right to demand something of me you know very well I'm not free to say. The Committee agreed a statement, make of it what you will. I've said all I'm going to say on it, and if you really haven't worked it out by now then you've gone down in my estimation Mr Irving.Henry Irving said:
But Sharon isn't a committee member, you are and I don't want to assume incorrectly.rikofold said:
I'm not avoiding the question, but the committee agreed a statement and it's not for me to make my own variation.Henry Irving said:
It is a fair question and the longer Rich avoids it the more it seems that the answer is not one that you or I would like.stonemuse said:To be fair Rik, it's a fair question.
The statement says:
However, the supporters’ representatives felt that they could not overlook the concerns raised, and indicated that they would not consider any further major donations to the football club until later on in the year.
That could mean payment will be made in June .... which, as you know, many of us do not want.
That could be easily and quickly disproved by @rikofold giving a direct answer.
We know he opposed the idea of withholding a payment in June and argued against it.
What I will say is what Sharron has already said to you Henry - that it's reasonable to assume we're talking about the second half of the year. Make of that what you will, but as I say most people seem to have understood what the statement is saying.
I'm not the enemy, try not to forget that everyone, but I am constrained by my role.
Answer the question.
But you know exactly what the situation is and are just making the usual mischief.0 - Sponsored links:
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Now I remember all this discussion before.
The way valley Gold is set up is like a charity, you have to have certain aims in order to be able to operate without tax and that.
There seems to be some legal requirement to pay over money's towards a certain goal (no pun intended eh Russell?) otherwise the structure folds.
Not close enough to this to know whether these founding terms can be amended and if so by whom, what vote etc, while I'm sure it must have been looked at, just have no visibility on it.
The clearer it is, the easier it is for people to decide. The money goes to this, are you happy with that? If not, cancel, if yes, stay.
If the money goes to the women's team, to the under 15's etc, does this mean we are saving the regime money?
I just don't know. The concern would be that these are areas that his regime is too incompetent to care for and yet are required for the future of our club. If you believe that, join.
The counter argument is that he would instead spend the money himself and this is just money off his bill. No personal experience of him or regime being clever enough to buy food when starving never mind about growing food for when the winter arrives.
Better transparency is good, targeted initiatives that would not get funded otherwise are good. If this can be achieved this looks well worth the subscription to me.0 -
Two recent good news stories from Valley Gold
http://www.valleygold.org.uk/2016/10/14/valley-gold-donates-2500-charlton-athletic-womens-team/
http://www.valleygold.org.uk/2016/10/11/charlton-athletic-deaf-fc-thanks-valley-gold/
The club should also support these teams, and maybe they do, but it is good to see that supporters money is going to these teams which are part of Charlton3 -
Thinking about signing up..0
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So fans of other clubs can’t watch the tournament then?1
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Has this really been thought out properly ?
Apart from MOL's comment above re attendees( which IMO is very short sighted) isn't Sunday 13th May designated as a semi final of L1's playoffs ?
Please forgive me if I have this wrong but if correct, it seems as though the club is already throwing in the towel with regards to promotion and is the wrong message to send out to all Addicks' fans.1 -
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*- Think the main aim (or how I have always seen it) is to try and get the academy in a state where it is financially stable to be given Cat 1 statusAlwaysneil said:Now I remember all this discussion before. The way valley Gold is set up is like a charity, you have to have certain aims* in order to be able to operate without tax and that. There seems to be some legal requirement to pay over money's towards a certain goal (no pun intended eh Russell?) otherwise the structure folds. Not close enough to this to know whether these founding terms can be amended and if so by whom, what vote etc, while I'm sure it must have been looked at, just have no visibility on it. The clearer it is, the easier it is for people to decide. The money goes to this, are you happy with that? If not, cancel, if yes, stay. If the money goes to the women's team, to the under 15's etc, does this mean we are saving the regime money? I just don't know. The concern would be that these are areas that his regime is too incompetent to care for and yet are required for the future of our club. If you believe that, join. The counter argument is that he would instead spend the money himself and this is just money off his bill. No personal experience of him or regime being clever enough to buy food when starving never mind about growing food for when the winter arrives.
Better transparency is good**, targeted initiatives that would not get funded otherwise are good. If this can be achieved this looks well worth the subscription to me.
**- with all of these fan initiatives (electing people to talk with the board). Should the same happen with VG?0 -
Not sure what you mean? When did it stop “funding the youth academy”?JustFloydRoad said:5
