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Best player to be a successful manager?

RodneyCharltonTrotta
RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
in Other Football and Sports
Was reading on another thread about whether being a respected good football manager is linked to footballing pedigree as a player and was thinking who would be considered the best player to be the most successful manager.

Alex Ferguson was a great manager but not known for being head and shoulders above as a player whereas the great Maradona never did overly well as a manager.

Guardiola was a world class player and is doing well in his management career.

Beckenbauer must be up there.
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  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    Well before my time but Brian Clough's record as a player is very useful...
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,846
    Cruyff?
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Diego Simeone is doing alright for himself
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    Off_it said:

    Cruyff?

    Yeah probably the winner.

    Close the thread. Thanks all.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Our own Jimmy Seed was good enough to play for his country....
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited September 2016
    Brian Clough for me two European Cups to his name with rag, tag and bobtail teams who he got to play above themselves like Leicester did last season but on a regular basis and not too few domestic trophies either.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Brian Clough
    Pep Guardiola
    Johann Cryuff
    Diego Simeone
    Franz Beckenbauer

    They're the names that instantly come to me (not just because they've already been listed)
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,846
    Ronnie Moore
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited September 2016
    What about (Sir) Alf Ramsey?

    Played in the top tier for Spurs and won 32 England caps as a player. Took an unfancied Ipswich to the division 1 (pre premiership) title as a club manager and won the World cup in 1966 as an international manager.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Dalglish?
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  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Wee Gordon Strachan has done OK for himself
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited September 2016
    Pochettino was capped by Argentina and hasn't done too badly

    Same with Frank Riikjaard / Ronald Koeman and Frank de Boer and Holland... Glenn Hoddle started well with Swindon / Chelsea and England but had the problem of bigmouthitis whilst Ruud Gullit didnt do badly either
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,085
    Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.

    Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? !
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Diego Simeone for me
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Mancini
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Off_it said:

    Cruyff?

    Didn't win that much (not sure how much credence you can give to La Liga wins) as a manager but without a doubt probably the person who had the most significant impact on a single club, Barca to this day are thriving off of his philosophies.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Michael Laudrup was a decent player.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    SELR_addicks said:

    Michael Laudrup was a decent player.

    Really good player but other than the League Cup with Swansea he's not done much as a Manager
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited September 2016
    Friend Or Defoe said:

    Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.

    Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? !

    Beckenbauer and Cruyff managed top European clubs full of big name players, English international Clough built his teams from journeymen pros at a mid table / bottom half Division One side (Premiership), so surely that evens things out :smirk: .
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    dizzee Posts: 5,616
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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Ho Ho Ho.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    edited September 2016
    You could make an argument that Zidane is a successful manager given they won the Champs Lge last year.

    Apart from him it has to be Johann Cruyff.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Ancelotti?

    But Off_it has already named the winner.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Can't believe I'm the only one to name Sir Alf Ramsey.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    Guardiola
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Ian Dowie
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,085
    RedChaser said:

    Friend Or Defoe said:

    Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.

    Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? !

    Beckenbauer and Cruyff managed top European clubs full of big name players, English international Clough built his teams from journeymen pros at a mid table / bottom half Division One side (Premiership), so surely that evens things out :smirk: .
    I was referring to his playing career. I think some people have misread the question!
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,153
    edited September 2016
    .
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited September 2016
    Friend Or Defoe said:

    RedChaser said:

    Friend Or Defoe said:

    Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.

    Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? !

    Beckenbauer and Cruyff managed top European clubs full of big name players, English international Clough built his teams from journeymen pros at a mid table / bottom half Division One side (Premiership), so surely that evens things out :smirk: .
    I was referring to his playing career. I think some people have misread the question!
    They may well have done, all depends what your definition of a best player is, England Intenational was good enough for me and it was of course a two part question :open_mouth: .
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Jurgen Klinsmann

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