Best player to be a successful manager?
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Managerial Honours:Algarveaddick said:Dino Zoff
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Juventus
1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90
1 UEFA Cup: 1989–900 -
Sir Chris Powell4
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He also took Italy to the final of Euro 2000.colthe3rd said:
Managerial Honours:Algarveaddick said:Dino Zoff
Club
Juventus
1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90
1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.0 -
Thanks for that BM. I took the question for what it was, "a successful manager", it didn't say "the most successful manager" as I am guessing ole smarty pants Col read it...bobmunro said:
He also took Italy to the final of Euro 2000.colthe3rd said:
Managerial Honours:Algarveaddick said:Dino Zoff
Club
Juventus
1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90
1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.
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Played twice and never scored for England. I think that puts him below Francis Jeffers.RedChaser said:
They may well have done, all depends what your definition of a best player is, England Intenational was good enough for me and it was of course a two part questionFriend Or Defoe said:
I was referring to his playing career. I think some people have misread the question!RedChaser said:
Beckenbauer and Cruyff managed top European clubs full of big name players, English international Clough built his teams from journeymen pros at a mid table / bottom half Division One side (Premiership), so surely that evens things outFriend Or Defoe said:Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.
Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? !
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Well not really. I mean he had an ok career as a manager but not exactly doing as good as he should have been with those teams. Hardly successful.Algarveaddick said:
Thanks for that BM. I took the question for what it was, "a successful manager", it didn't say "the most successful manager" as I am guessing ole smarty pants Col read it...bobmunro said:
He also took Italy to the final of Euro 2000.colthe3rd said:
Managerial Honours:Algarveaddick said:Dino Zoff
Club
Juventus
1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90
1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.0 -
It puts him higher than your Mark Hughes and Kenny DalglishFriend Or Defoe said:
Played twice and never scored for England. I think that puts him below Francis Jeffers.RedChaser said:
They may well have done, all depends what your definition of a best player is, England Intenational was good enough for me and it was of course a two part questionFriend Or Defoe said:
I was referring to his playing career. I think some people have misread the question!RedChaser said:
Beckenbauer and Cruyff managed top European clubs full of big name players, English international Clough built his teams from journeymen pros at a mid table / bottom half Division One side (Premiership), so surely that evens things outFriend Or Defoe said:Clough only played a few top flight games, I don't think you can include him in the same sentence as Beckenbauer and Cryuff.
Can't think of many British ones, Dalglish and Mark Hughes? ! . . . 0 -
Cruyff was not only successful as a manager, but also introduced the Dutch total football philosophy to Barcelona, making them what they are today. No Cruyff at Barcelona, no Guardiola.
He is possibly the third greatest player of all time, behind Pele & Maradona.
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Alan Pardew, of course.
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Alright then. I'll edit it.colthe3rd said:
Well not really. I mean he had an ok career as a manager but not exactly doing as good as he should have been with those teams. Hardly successful.Algarveaddick said:
Thanks for that BM. I took the question for what it was, "a successful manager", it didn't say "the most successful manager" as I am guessing ole smarty pants Col read it...bobmunro said:
He also took Italy to the final of Euro 2000.colthe3rd said:
Managerial Honours:Algarveaddick said:Dino Zoff
Club
Juventus
1 Coppa Italia: 1989–90
1 UEFA Cup: 1989–90
But yes I agree, certainly not a stellar managerial career - ticks the great player box though that's for sure.1 - Sponsored links:
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That's an altogether different debate - and you're wrong ;-)Tutt-Tutt said:Cruyff was not only successful as a manager, but also introduced the Dutch total football philosophy to Barcelona, making them what they are today. No Cruyff at Barcelona, no Guardiola.
He is possibly the third greatest player of all time, behind Pele & Maradona.0 -
Bobby Robson was a great player and England international in the 50s.1
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Jimmy Seed.
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Clough's career was ended prematurely by injury. Sure he would have been an England star otherwise.3
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Alan Pardew.
Best dancer as well.2 -
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Possibly.bobmunro said:
That's an altogether different debate - and you're wrong ;-)Tutt-Tutt said:Cruyff was not only successful as a manager, but also introduced the Dutch total football philosophy to Barcelona, making them what they are today. No Cruyff at Barcelona, no Guardiola.
He is possibly the third greatest player of all time, behind Pele & Maradona.
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Capello. Won 4 Serie A titles as a player.1
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Clough was an England star. Also he is in the elite of England players who had a son that also played for England.harveys gardener said:Clough's career was ended prematurely by injury. Sure he would have been an England star otherwise.
Brian and Nigel Clough.
Frank & Frank Lampard Jnr.
And the other one.
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