Daily Mail - Chaos at Charlton
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Great response from CARD. Genuinely impressed.
The problem is the protests effect the regime to more or less the square root of zero, or in the case of Coventry, brings people who would not otherwise come to the Valley as protesters, so a bit of extra cash for them. Also, They are Belgian, why do they care what the British media think.
I don't want to take even the slightest bit of credit from CARD, they started this and they have done some great things.
The crux of this problem lies in Belgium... Destroy them in Belgium and we win the war.1 -
Assume you're now banned?cantersaddick said:
I did respond to her. A well reasoned, thought out explanation of my views to which she replied 'I haven't got time to read a post that long, but I can assure you that you are wrong'.Addickted2TheReds said:
I wish I could respond but I'm not articulate enough :-(cantersaddick said:
Funny it's the same argument Sue used against me on that fb group the other day. She also said I'm too your to be a real fan as I haven't lived through various periods of our history that I am fully aware of. So awarepparently my opinion doesn't matter because I am too young.Addickted2TheReds said:
I know.LeaburnForEngland said:Just seen this blog post, had to laugh -
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=463335
@Addickted2TheReds I think he's concerned about you -
"I personally feel for the young supporters who are being dragged into a fight none can possibly understand."
Damn all these people who make all my decisions and form my opinions because I can't think for myself because I'm too young!
Bastards!1 -
If not, please tell us how this latest issue has been received on there, canters.mogodon said:
Assume you're now banned?cantersaddick said:
I did respond to her. A well reasoned, thought out explanation of my views to which she replied 'I haven't got time to read a post that long, but I can assure you that you are wrong'.Addickted2TheReds said:
I wish I could respond but I'm not articulate enough :-(cantersaddick said:
Funny it's the same argument Sue used against me on that fb group the other day. She also said I'm too your to be a real fan as I haven't lived through various periods of our history that I am fully aware of. So awarepparently my opinion doesn't matter because I am too young.Addickted2TheReds said:
I know.LeaburnForEngland said:Just seen this blog post, had to laugh -
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=463335
@Addickted2TheReds I think he's concerned about you -
"I personally feel for the young supporters who are being dragged into a fight none can possibly understand."
Damn all these people who make all my decisions and form my opinions because I can't think for myself because I'm too young!
Bastards!0 -
Only if you say how much you love SurreyFanny Fanackapan said:
If not, please tell us how this latest issue has been received on there, canters.mogodon said:
Assume you're now banned?cantersaddick said:
I did respond to her. A well reasoned, thought out explanation of my views to which she replied 'I haven't got time to read a post that long, but I can assure you that you are wrong'.Addickted2TheReds said:
I wish I could respond but I'm not articulate enough :-(cantersaddick said:
Funny it's the same argument Sue used against me on that fb group the other day. She also said I'm too your to be a real fan as I haven't lived through various periods of our history that I am fully aware of. So awarepparently my opinion doesn't matter because I am too young.Addickted2TheReds said:
I know.LeaburnForEngland said:Just seen this blog post, had to laugh -
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=463335
@Addickted2TheReds I think he's concerned about you -
"I personally feel for the young supporters who are being dragged into a fight none can possibly understand."
Damn all these people who make all my decisions and form my opinions because I can't think for myself because I'm too young!
Bastards!4 -
We're on the same side but I respectfully disagree.Huskaris said:Great response from CARD. Genuinely impressed.
The problem is the protests effect the regime to more or less the square root of zero, or in the case of Coventry, brings people who would not otherwise come to the Valley as protesters, so a bit of extra cash for them. Also, They are Belgian, why do they care what the British media think.
I don't want to take even the slightest bit of credit from CARD, they started this and they have done some great things.
The crux of this problem lies in Belgium... Destroy them in Belgium and we win the war.
You need to look at it from Meire's eyes.
If you were her, would you prefer 6,000 compliant fans, sitting in silence and going home or,
12,000 fans protesting and giving them all sorts of headaches ?
Also, much of the extra revenue from protesting fans, will be swallowed up with security costs.
It's a no brainer. Protest, protest and protest again & they will go !20 -
Wow! What a condescending post. Think you've always put yourself across very well. Surprisingly! Take no notice.Addickted2TheReds said:@LeaburnForEngland
You're not the only one worried about me!
"No offence to Joe, but the kid is well out of his depth. I employ much more articulate kids than him to do internships. Embarrassing comments today. Stand aside sonny, or just pipe down for the grown ups."
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Those google images tho.. thanks Ben.
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I'm sitting in a hotel room in Malvern and have no access to any picture editing software, but that deserves a 'BEST POST EVER' sign.LeaburnForEngland said:
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First of all, I love the fact that you are not screaming and shouting. It shows that we can all have an intelligent debate. I'm not here for a fight with anyone, we all want the same end goal, it's the means that are the question.Covered End said:
We're on the same side but I respectfully disagree.Huskaris said:Great response from CARD. Genuinely impressed.
The problem is the protests effect the regime to more or less the square root of zero, or in the case of Coventry, brings people who would not otherwise come to the Valley as protesters, so a bit of extra cash for them. Also, They are Belgian, why do they care what the British media think.
I don't want to take even the slightest bit of credit from CARD, they started this and they have done some great things.
The crux of this problem lies in Belgium... Destroy them in Belgium and we win the war.
You need to look at it from Meire's eyes.
If you were her, would you prefer 6,000 compliant fans, sitting in silence and going home or,
12,000 fans protesting and giving them all sorts of headaches ?
Also, much of the extra revenue from protesting fans, will be swallowed up with security costs.
It's a no brainer. Protest, protest and protest again & they will go !
I agree that protesting is not good for the regime, but the question is how bad is it, and how much extra pressure does it put on them? That's all I'm saying. The protests are all self contained in a lot of ways, it causes them all sorts of fuss in the stadium no doubt though.
As for stewarding costs, I would question that. Bar one incident where a big mouth twat caused 2 poor chaps to run on the pitch and get grabbed by stewards, what we have done thus far has, in reality, had minimal effect. In the words of a neutral close friend of mine in regards to those 2 guys that ran on the pitch, "You all got hyped about the pitch invasion and had your chance, and then you bottled it." That whole pitch invasion thing was probably the most idiotic thing that has happened in the protest's history, and has made us look weak if anything... If we are going to do things like that, we need to underplay our protest plans, not overplay them, because then we look like a bunch of cowards to those outside who take an interest.
I don't think Meire loses any sleep about us... I really don't.0 -
You were a kid when this started! aren't you like 40 now? I bet you felt like it after the ehrm casino in BelgiumAddickted2TheReds said:
I know.LeaburnForEngland said:Just seen this blog post, had to laugh -
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=463335
@Addickted2TheReds I think he's concerned about you -
"I personally feel for the young supporters who are being dragged into a fight none can possibly understand."
Damn all these people who make all my decisions and form my opinions because I can't think for myself because I'm too young!
Bastards!
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Presumably sue perks has conveniently forgotten katriens comments that she doesn't care about the older fans?1
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Wise words. That man knows you too well JoeAddickted2TheReds said:@LeaburnForEngland
You're not the only one worried about me!
"No offence to Joe, but the kid is well out of his depth. I employ much more articulate kids than him to do internships. Embarrassing comments today. Stand aside sonny, or just pipe down for the grown ups."
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Until KM is removed from the club, I request no organisation especially CARD has no involvement with club officials.
Protest, protest, protest- get them out.4 -
Indeed - no complaints from me!jamescafc said:
Wise words. That man knows you too well JoeAddickted2TheReds said:@LeaburnForEngland
You're not the only one worried about me!
"No offence to Joe, but the kid is well out of his depth. I employ much more articulate kids than him to do internships. Embarrassing comments today. Stand aside sonny, or just pipe down for the grown ups."
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CARD, as ever, have played a blinder1
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But since when has football in any way reflected the real world?cafc999 said:I find it strange when she says "We made numerous mistakes last season" yet she and the rest of the SMT are still in their positions.
If I was as shit as she and her SMT then I would get the sack pretty quickly0 -
Nope not banned. I have been very careful to respectful and polite to give them no excuse to ban me. I am sure they suspect I am on Charlton life and I think they are waiting for me to slip up so they can ban me.Fanny Fanackapan said:
If not, please tell us how this latest issue has been received on there, canters.mogodon said:
Assume you're now banned?cantersaddick said:
I did respond to her. A well reasoned, thought out explanation of my views to which she replied 'I haven't got time to read a post that long, but I can assure you that you are wrong'.Addickted2TheReds said:
I wish I could respond but I'm not articulate enough :-(cantersaddick said:
Funny it's the same argument Sue used against me on that fb group the other day. She also said I'm too your to be a real fan as I haven't lived through various periods of our history that I am fully aware of. So awarepparently my opinion doesn't matter because I am too young.Addickted2TheReds said:
I know.LeaburnForEngland said:Just seen this blog post, had to laugh -
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=463335
@Addickted2TheReds I think he's concerned about you -
"I personally feel for the young supporters who are being dragged into a fight none can possibly understand."
Damn all these people who make all my decisions and form my opinions because I can't think for myself because I'm too young!
Bastards!
Fanny the reaction has been surprising actually the majority of comments anti Roland and fairly pro CARD. The odd one saying a meeting might have helped but still anti RD. The usual suspects have been very quiet. A couple of comments early on but I think they saw the weight of opinion and decided to ride out the storm in hiding...7 -
So the song for next Saturday is "you can shove your f***ing meeting up your arse" then?12
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I can't see Katrien sitting in the director's box for this one.
I can see a strategic illness/holiday coming along.8 -
Maybe a question to ask her would be, "how old do have to be to have an opinion."cantersaddick said:
Funny it's the same argument Sue used against me on that fb group the other day. She also said I'm too young to be a real fan as I haven't lived through various periods of our history that I am fully aware of. So apparently my opinion doesn't matter because I am too young.Addickted2TheReds said:
I know.LeaburnForEngland said:Just seen this blog post, had to laugh -
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=463335
@Addickted2TheReds I think he's concerned about you -
"I personally feel for the young supporters who are being dragged into a fight none can possibly understand."
Damn all these people who make all my decisions and form my opinions because I can't think for myself because I'm too young!
Bastards!
I think her judgement maybe clouded by the freebies and her best mate.1 -
Yes @Fanny Fanackapan let's hear it!blackpool72 said:
Only if you say how much you love SurreyFanny Fanackapan said:
If not, please tell us how this latest issue has been received on there, canters.mogodon said:
Assume you're now banned?cantersaddick said:
I did respond to her. A well reasoned, thought out explanation of my views to which she replied 'I haven't got time to read a post that long, but I can assure you that you are wrong'.Addickted2TheReds said:
I wish I could respond but I'm not articulate enough :-(cantersaddick said:
Funny it's the same argument Sue used against me on that fb group the other day. She also said I'm too your to be a real fan as I haven't lived through various periods of our history that I am fully aware of. So awarepparently my opinion doesn't matter because I am too young.Addickted2TheReds said:
I know.LeaburnForEngland said:Just seen this blog post, had to laugh -
http://www.charlton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=463335
@Addickted2TheReds I think he's concerned about you -
"I personally feel for the young supporters who are being dragged into a fight none can possibly understand."
Damn all these people who make all my decisions and form my opinions because I can't think for myself because I'm too young!
Bastards!1 -
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Too young to understand and support! Others too old to be of value to the club.
Yes KM has made it the club that hates its supporters.
CARD etc do not give up. JM and RD must go and Charlton get back to rebuilding the club it was.6 -
Unfortunately for her she has already committed herself to meet with the Bromley Addicks prior to the match.Alwaysneil said:I can't see Katrien sitting in the director's box for this one.
I can see a strategic illness/holiday coming along.1 -
Maybe she will sit in the covered end as all protesters are in the west!bolloxbolder said:
Unfortunately for her she has already committed herself to meet with the Bromley Addicks prior to the match.Alwaysneil said:I can't see Katrien sitting in the director's box for this one.
I can see a strategic illness/holiday coming along.0 -
As I said on another thread, I expect she will be there surrounded by a possee of hired thugs smirking away.Alwaysneil said:I can't see Katrien sitting in the director's box for this one.
I can see a strategic illness/holiday coming along.
Let's wipe the smirk off her face.0 -
Fantastic response by CARD. Are there plans wider press release to put these great points across to the media as a whole in order to keep the pressure on the regime?.0
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Bet she lost a lot of sleep when the bedsheet nestled on her hooter!Huskaris said:
First of all, I love the fact that you are not screaming and shouting. It shows that we can all have an intelligent debate. I'm not here for a fight with anyone, we all want the same end goal, it's the means that are the question.Covered End said:
We're on the same side but I respectfully disagree.Huskaris said:Great response from CARD. Genuinely impressed.
The problem is the protests effect the regime to more or less the square root of zero, or in the case of Coventry, brings people who would not otherwise come to the Valley as protesters, so a bit of extra cash for them. Also, They are Belgian, why do they care what the British media think.
I don't want to take even the slightest bit of credit from CARD, they started this and they have done some great things.
The crux of this problem lies in Belgium... Destroy them in Belgium and we win the war.
You need to look at it from Meire's eyes.
If you were her, would you prefer 6,000 compliant fans, sitting in silence and going home or,
12,000 fans protesting and giving them all sorts of headaches ?
Also, much of the extra revenue from protesting fans, will be swallowed up with security costs.
It's a no brainer. Protest, protest and protest again & they will go !
I agree that protesting is not good for the regime, but the question is how bad is it, and how much extra pressure does it put on them? That's all I'm saying. The protests are all self contained in a lot of ways, it causes them all sorts of fuss in the stadium no doubt though.
As for stewarding costs, I would question that. Bar one incident where a big mouth twat caused 2 poor chaps to run on the pitch and get grabbed by stewards, what we have done thus far has, in reality, had minimal effect. In the words of a neutral close friend of mine in regards to those 2 guys that ran on the pitch, "You all got hyped about the pitch invasion and had your chance, and then you bottled it." That whole pitch invasion thing was probably the most idiotic thing that has happened in the protest's history, and has made us look weak if anything... If we are going to do things like that, we need to underplay our protest plans, not overplay them, because then we look like a bunch of cowards to those outside who take an interest.
I don't think Meire loses any sleep about us... I really don't.1 -
It puts enough pressure on them that they have asked to talk to CARD, when they have previously refused to talk.Huskaris said:
First of all, I love the fact that you are not screaming and shouting. It shows that we can all have an intelligent debate. I'm not here for a fight with anyone, we all want the same end goal, it's the means that are the question.Covered End said:
We're on the same side but I respectfully disagree.Huskaris said:Great response from CARD. Genuinely impressed.
The problem is the protests effect the regime to more or less the square root of zero, or in the case of Coventry, brings people who would not otherwise come to the Valley as protesters, so a bit of extra cash for them. Also, They are Belgian, why do they care what the British media think.
I don't want to take even the slightest bit of credit from CARD, they started this and they have done some great things.
The crux of this problem lies in Belgium... Destroy them in Belgium and we win the war.
You need to look at it from Meire's eyes.
If you were her, would you prefer 6,000 compliant fans, sitting in silence and going home or,
12,000 fans protesting and giving them all sorts of headaches ?
Also, much of the extra revenue from protesting fans, will be swallowed up with security costs.
It's a no brainer. Protest, protest and protest again & they will go !
I agree that protesting is not good for the regime, but the question is how bad is it, and how much extra pressure does it put on them? That's all I'm saying. The protests are all self contained in a lot of ways, it causes them all sorts of fuss in the stadium no doubt though.
As for stewarding costs, I would question that. Bar one incident where a big mouth twat caused 2 poor chaps to run on the pitch and get grabbed by stewards, what we have done thus far has, in reality, had minimal effect. In the words of a neutral close friend of mine in regards to those 2 guys that ran on the pitch, "You all got hyped about the pitch invasion and had your chance, and then you bottled it." That whole pitch invasion thing was probably the most idiotic thing that has happened in the protest's history, and has made us look weak if anything... If we are going to do things like that, we need to underplay our protest plans, not overplay them, because then we look like a bunch of cowards to those outside who take an interest.
I don't think Meire loses any sleep about us... I really don't.
This should tell you that the regime do not want us protesting. So if they don't want it, then we should be protesting.
The non pitch invasion, was a one off event and had nothing to do with CARD, who certainly would not have pre announced it. How you can question that there are increased steward costs, I don't really understand.
I think Meire does lose sleep. I know Meire cries and rants, she's been seen.
I'm not having a dig, I'm on your side, I just know the protests do have an effect.16 -
don't be fooled. Why do you think she has to take so many holidays?Huskaris said:
I don't think Meire loses any sleep about us... I really don't.Covered End said:
We're on the same side but I respectfully disagree.Huskaris said:Great response from CARD. Genuinely impressed.
The problem is the protests effect the regime to more or less the square root of zero, or in the case of Coventry, brings people who would not otherwise come to the Valley as protesters, so a bit of extra cash for them. Also, They are Belgian, why do they care what the British media think.
I don't want to take even the slightest bit of credit from CARD, they started this and they have done some great things.
The crux of this problem lies in Belgium... Destroy them in Belgium and we win the war.
You need to look at it from Meire's eyes.
If you were her, would you prefer 6,000 compliant fans, sitting in silence and going home or,
12,000 fans protesting and giving them all sorts of headaches ?
Also, much of the extra revenue from protesting fans, will be swallowed up with security costs.
It's a no brainer. Protest, protest and protest again & they will go !1 -
Imagine the scene, yesterday afternoon at The Valley.
Daily Mail reporter to Charlton comms manager: We're running a story tomorrow about the fans' planned joint protest with Coventry and Charlton's poor start to the season. Do you have any comment?
Charlton comms manager: Let me check with the boss. We'll get back to you.
KM: Hello, Pitch. We need you to get the Daily Mail off our back.
Pitch (very expensive consultant): We need to give them something tangible. It's that CARD lot, isn't it? Why don't you send them an email, inviting them to meet with you. But wait till about 6pm before you send it - you can schedule it from Outlook if you've gone home by then. Leave the rest to us. And don't worry, Katrien, you won't actually ever have to meet with CARD. But it'll give them a headache and weaken those protest ideas.
Pitch (very expensive consultant): Can I speak to the Daily Mail reporter running the Charlton story? Yes, of course, the club has learnt from its mistakes and is working hard to engage with fans. They're meeting with all the different groups, including CARD. I'll email you a statement.
Daily Mail reporter: Cheers, thanks.
Daily Mail reporter, thinking: This is a load of Tony Keohanes. I'll publish the story I was planning anyway and just tag this on at the end.
KM, after reading CARD statement: Hello, Pitch...
I'll leave you guys to make up the rest.
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It's all just a total cover up for the Stupid Mindless Tossers. We haven't done anything wrong, we've engaged with the fans, we've learnt from our mistakes, we've "started" to rebuild the team, we're the victims in this....Change the fucking record as we're all bored of listening.
You had your chance, now sling ya hook!5
