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  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,438
    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,301
    Pedro45 said:

    SE10Addick said:

    I wonder if it's worth approaching some of Pitch's other clients to put some pressure on them?

    I've got multiple connections with people connected to Pitch people: https://linkedin.com/vsearch/p?f_CC=875773&trk=rr_connectedness

    But alas none are clients of theirs.

    Send them messages via LinkedIn and tell them the issues, ask for feedback, to be our mole!
    I'd always be careful doing stuff via LinkedIn just because although it's your profile, it's a business networking tool. Just think about what your company might say and possible implications for them etc
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,018
    mogodon said:


    "The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand."

    That must narrow the field a bit, given that NightMeire & co have shipped off most of the original staff who knew what they were doing and actually cared about the club.

    Did Mrs Perks give her hubby a bit of a nudge, saying "I've got a great idea ..." ?
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    Quite obviously a Tony Cahones idea then!
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,420
    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    Keith Peacock?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    shirty5 said:

    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    Keith Peacock?
    Given the Kent connections of Insufferable Addick I'd guess Derek Ufton but could also be Chris Parkes.

    Or he's just drifting off into his acid flashback fantasy world again.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    kentred2 said:

    Are they trying fake fans on Twitter too?

    Good question.

    That piss poor article on vitalfootball yesterday seemed very suspicious:

    - authored by an individual who, despite being a suporter for 50 years, had never written anything before;
    - focused solely on CARD, and written in a very one-sided manner;
    - a peculiar choice of medium to share his thoughts - who the fuck uses vitalfootball - but one that seems to have a decent Google ranking;
    - the only response to it in the forum was by an individual who had never posted before.

    I suspect there may be some shilling and theatre going on at the moment.
  • Slartibartfast
    Slartibartfast Posts: 1,127
    Was thinking the same shirty, hope he has nothing to do with this or anything else connected to present owners.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,357
    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    Never trust a Nigel.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,876
    What the leak was the idea of a club stalwart?

    I call bullshit.

    The idea of the meeting may have been, but the leak? Rubbish.

    If that club stalwart exists I bet they are fuming at the cack-handed way in which this has unfolded.

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,088
    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    It may well be true - along the lines of:

    Respected member of staff: Look Katy, if you want to stop the Coventry protest the only chance you have is trying to establish dialogue with CARD. They may not go for it, probably won't, but it's your only chance.

    Katy: I'll get our PR gurus on to it.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,926
    So we're meant to believe that they hired Pitch to manage their PR and then, when a national media outlet asked them for a comment on a piece about protests at The Valley, they responded on their own without engaging said PR company?
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,432
    Knowing Derek Ufton as I do, very unlikely to have been suggested by him.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    LoOkOuT said:

    So we're meant to believe that they hired Pitch to manage their PR and then, when a national media outlet asked them for a comment on a piece about protests at The Valley, they responded on their own without engaging said PR company?

    Thing is with Meire that is quite possible. She doesn't think anything through.

    Cawley is saying he contacted the club for a comment on the planned protests v Coventry and the club gave him the story about the letter to CARD.

    The Daily Mail were clearly sent the same email as they reproduced it at the end of the article yesterday. I think they added it later in the day but maybe be wrong on that. Presumably CAFC or Pitch were expecting the Mail to change their original story or run a new one rather than just tack it on at the end of the very negative piece.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Isawsummersplay said:

    Knowing Derek Ufton as I do, very unlikely to have been suggested by him.

    This, I have been fortunate enough to have several conversations with Derek and I cannot imagine him suggesting a PR company to sort out the problems.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,926
    Henry Irving said:

    LoOkOuT said:

    So we're meant to believe that they hired Pitch to manage their PR and then, when a national media outlet asked them for a comment on a piece about protests at The Valley, they responded on their own without engaging said PR company?

    Thing is with Meire that is quite possible. She doesn't think anything through.

    Cawley is saying he contacted the club for a comment on the planned protests v Coventry and the club gave him the story about the letter to CARD.

    The Daily Mail were clearly sent the same email as they reproduced it at the end of the article yesterday. I think they added it later in the day but maybe be wrong on that. Presumably CAFC or Pitch were expecting the Mail to change their original story or run a new one rather than just tack it on at the end of the very negative piece.
    Of course, there is precedent here. To clarify my original thought, I forgot to add: "and we're meant to think this is somehow better!"
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,876
    Maybe PR week could run a story about difficult clients and how they screw up PR to u glide Charlton as a case study.

    They could start with the loss of the Head of HR before Mel Baroni, Mel herself and that bloke they had infor a bit and culminating in Pitch.

    Make a riveting read.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,438
    Charlton Charlie said:

    I've spoken to the news editor at PR Week about this....they've been keeping an eye on all things Charlton recently and may well be trying to speak to Pitch in the near future....

    They could run the feature under the headline "The challenges of trying to polish a turd"
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,876
    Nothing against our friends from Poland.

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  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,990
    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    Methinks that Nigel is clutching at straws
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,451
    Atletico Addick said:

    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. the idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his handT( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    Quite obviously a Tony Cahones idea then!
    "The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand"

    That sentence rules him out. ;)
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    Pitch PR seem to be the Max Clifford of sordid football management regimes
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    eaststandmike said:

    Isawsummersplay said:

    Knowing Derek Ufton as I do, very unlikely to have been suggested by him.

    This, I have been fortunate enough to have several conversations with Derek and I cannot imagine him suggesting a PR company to sort out the problems.
    If Derek Ufton had a suggestion regarding CARD I'm certain he'd make it to me. I'm in regular contact with him.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    mogodon said:

    My dear friend Nigel says the initiative was nothing to do with the PR company:-

    "I can guarantee you 100 per cent that is not true. The idea came from one of the most honest and decent club stalwarts with an impeccable record and who has 100 per cent respect from everyone who has ever had the privilege to shake his hand ( no, not me, I'm not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath). The club saw that it was a sensible and constructive proposal and acted upon it."

    Anything in this?

    We know for certain it's not Sue Perks then.
  • T
    T Posts: 1,349
    kentred2 said:

    Are they trying fake fans on Twitter too?

    I've wondered that too, wouldn't be surprised at all to see some 'astroturfing' going on social media. There seems to be a few people with limited digital profiles/footprint who are very outspoken against CARD coming out of the woodwork recently i've noticed.

  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,226
    londonnewsonline.co.uk/7563/charlton-invite-card-meet-senior-management-next-week/
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,438
    T said:

    kentred2 said:

    Are they trying fake fans on Twitter too?

    I've wondered that too, wouldn't be surprised at all to see some 'astroturfing' going on social media. There seems to be a few people with limited digital profiles/footprint who are very outspoken against CARD coming out of the woodwork recently i've noticed.
    Not remotely surprised. The PR campaign is clearly aimed at divide and conquer so they will use any means they can on social media. Expect Facebook and Twitter to carry more outwardly aggressive anti-CARD anti-protest posts, and the same on forums as has already been seen in the past couple of weeks.

    They want to create the impression that the bulk of fans - Richard Nixon's beloved 'silent majority' - are behind the board and against the protesters. Hence the threats, at extremes of violence, against those returning to protest at the Coventry game. I am convinced that neither the club or the PR company would consider promoting violence between fans at that game ... let's just hope the stewards are not encouraged to take a hard stand.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,226
    Keep positive everyone ...we are one day closer to getting rid of them.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,876
    I think we can break them.

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