578 members and 330 guests online?

330 club spies.

Yep, I was wondering also ..... more people on this forum, than at the match.

cafckev said:

ken_shabby said:

Might explain why the ground looked so empty today.

It wasn't empty you know.....there was over 10,000 there dont you know!

How many complimentary tickets handed out?

How many of those actually attended?

Everything about the club operation is rubbish at present. Rubbish inept CEO trying to pretend engagement whilst doing everything possible to block engagement with potentially critical supporters. SMT going after posters on a forum. Supporters being strangled by security for carrying a flag, ABC contracts. The club constantly saying one thing and doing another. Building a team to get promoted whilst providing an abject midfield & negative manager with an amateur pre season. Ridiculously inflated attendances, boring poor quality football. A club with the soul ripped out of it.

Meire says that Duchatelet is not planning to go. Just another lie in a succession of lies and misdirection. You cannot trust a word that Meire or Duchatelet says . It will be an excellent Christmas / New Year gift when Duchatelet goes. Charlton supporters will get the club back. Keep the faith.

I so hope this would happen, 60plus years this was my club never felt so saddened as I am now at the shambles our club is in.

Spanish said:

Russell Slade is just the perfect foil for RD & KM. He seems to prepare the teams in such a way to wind up the fans. He has the nucleus of a good team but for reasons best known to him, he refuses to play some of our better players. Pleased to report I've still not given the Regime any of my money bar admin fees for away games. The only way we will really get the message across is to show them a near empty Valley.

I think the next step ought to be a protest for the duration of the game outside the ground.

stonemuse said:

ricky_otto said:

Spanish said:

Russell Slade is just the perfect foil for RD & KM. He seems to prepare the teams in such a way to wind up the fans. He has the nucleus of a good team but for reasons best known to him, he refuses to play some of our better players. Pleased to report I've still not given the Regime any of my money bar admin fees for away games. The only way we will really get the message across is to show them a near empty Valley.

I think the next step ought to be a protest for the duration of the game outside the ground.

Not sure there will be enough people at the next game to protest.

Quite. Sub 4000 for next weeks game. I certainly won't be anywhere near Se7 next weekend.

vff said:

Everything about the club operation is rubbish at present. Rubbish inept CEO trying to pretend engagement whilst doing everything possible to block engagement with potentially critical supporters. SMT going after posters on a forum. Supporters being strangled by security for carrying a flag, ABC contracts. The club constantly saying one thing and doing another. Building a team to get promoted whilst providing an abject midfield & negative manager with an amateur pre season. Ridiculously inflated attendances, boring poor quality football. A club with the soul ripped out of it.

Meire says that Duchatelet is not planning to go. Just another lie in a succession of lies and misdirection. You cannot trust a word that Meire or Duchatelet says . It will be an excellent Christmas / New Year gift when Duchatelet goes. Charlton supporters will get the club back. Keep the faith.

Is it safe to 'Like' this? Or will I get arrested?

Gillis said:

Mrkinski said:

At the match today it finally dawned on me, when the goal went in - this is not my club anymore. I've given up my season ticket but have now decided the only way to win - as Meire describes it - this war - is to use the only weapon I have. My support (and my money). I hope Card go for a boycott of matches, as I don't think anything else will have an effect. Let the ground be filled with the 2,000 or so who will go whatever happens, plus the freebies they give out. Surely that will not be sustainable long term. My boycott starts now.

Personally, I'm more convinced than ever that boycotting is not the way to go. Duchâtelet must already be losing a lot of money, and has already been thoroughly embarrassed. I'm not sure that the crowd falling to 2,000 (which I don't think it ever would anyway) would significantly increase the financial loss/embarrassment to him.

I'm convinced this regime would rather have lower attendances than people protesting in the ground. They've shown time and again through their actions how uncomfortable any kind of dissent in the ground makes them. We need to keep the pressure up at every game, because we know that's what bothers them most.

What was the show of dissent in the ground yesterday exactly? What made them uncomfortable?

But the protesting in ground over the past two games - whilst giving them £26 per match - has achieved what? Apart from not wanting to give them any more money, I felt so emotionally disconnected during the match yesterday that I started thinking what my £26 per match would pay for. Things that I can enjoy - like meals with family / films etc as opposed to unenjoyable matches at the valley. It's been a cumulative effect over the past few years - but this is the point when I say I've had enough, I'm out.

Mrkinski said:

But the protesting in ground over the past two games - whilst giving them £26 per match - has achieved what? Apart from not wanting to give them any more money, I felt so emotionally disconnected during the match yesterday that I started thinking what my £26 per match would pay for. Things that I can enjoy - like meals with family / films etc as opposed to unenjoyable matches at the valley. It's been a cumulative effect over the past few years - but this is the point when I say I've had enough, I'm out.

That's entirely understandable, and I don't think any reasonable person would argue against it. Everyone should be free to take the course of action they think best.

However, as a general direction for the protest movement as a whole, as it were, I think attending and protesting is a better strategy than boycotting.

I think that you get a different perspective on these things depending on where you sit. For the Coventry game we were in the west stand, close enough to Meire to see that at some points she had the glazed look of someone desperately trying not to blub. Yesterday we were at the back of the north upper and the one striking visual was the sheer number of empty seats. The Coventry experience tells me that she is the weak link and the demonstrations make her feel uncomfortable. The Chesterfield experience tells me that a boycott is the way to go, because that's the natural direction of things anyway.

That said, the atmosphere at these two games was remarkably different. The flying pigs were fantastic and made it feel like we were in the ascendancy. We can't do that every game though, for one it would be too expensive and for two it will lose impact if overdone. Yesterday though, the atmosphere was dreadful. As far back as we were sitting, there were still times when we could hear the players on the pitch above the sound of the crowd. Whilst quite a few people had gone to considerable effort to make their banners, they were all too thinly spread to look impressive.

I think overall we need a mixed approach. Boycotting most matches, but carefully picking occasional games for protests. Personally, I would like to see @ricky_otto 's idea of a demo outside the ground.