Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
October Fans Forum Minutes
Leeds_Addick
Posts: 4,736
This might've already been mentioned but I can't find it by searching so in case any one didn't see, they might be of interest.
http://www.cafc.co.uk/documents/ff-minutes-october-201683-3405216.pdf
Stuff about Alou Diarra is particularly laughable seen as he's been playing CM for Nancy this season.
http://www.cafc.co.uk/documents/ff-minutes-october-201683-3405216.pdf
Stuff about Alou Diarra is particularly laughable seen as he's been playing CM for Nancy this season.
5
Comments
-
Meire says Tex was injured & can play for the first team if Slade wants. There are no financials involved. Cough, splutter.3
-
SCL asked if the £3 admin fee could be a reason for crowds being down. KM advised that she doesn’t think this is the case, and that there are other reasons for this.
I wish someone would have pushed KM into saying what the other reasons were.3 -
asked for a club response to questions raised about an incident
involving stewards and a supporter after the match against Coventry
City on October 15th
.
ME advised that a letter had been received from Richard Wiseman of
the CAST and that a response had now been sent to them. ME said
he believes that mistakes were made by the club and on reflection it
should have been dealt with on another day. ME said that too many
people on both sides became involved. ME said has viewed all
footage and that the club didn’t cover themselves in glory and let
themselves down on a number of points.
SCL noted that from what he had heard/read, the supporter had been
troublesome and that some action was required. ME advised that the
issue with the supporter was not purely only relating to displaying a
flag, and that the individual had been banging reception windows,
singing foul and abusive songs, standing on seats, throwing items on
the pitch – separate to the pigs – blocking the view of other supporters
and other issues. ME said that by the same token, the club’s reaction
was wrong and should have been dealt with when atmosphere was
less volatile. Advised that lessons have been learnt and that
comprehensive reply has now been sent to Richard Wiseman.
SCL thanked Mick for his response and that they were happy with this.
SCL also confirmed that his letter to TK did not need to be responded
to as ME had now covered points.
PLEASE NOTE THAT ANY COMMENTS ON THIS INCIDENT MAY BE READ BY CERTAIN OTHER PARTIES AND FOR YOUR SAKE AND THAT OF THE CHARLTON LIFE CAUTION SHOULD BE TAKEN.6 -
Fairly sure both Vernon Roper and John Bennett have missed the last few fans forums.
I know Vernon isn't well, but surely there shouldn't be so many apologies from fans reps at each fans forum meeting. These are generally set up well in advance. For sure Ian and Steve never seem to miss a meeting.0 -
As everything with these mugs there is not much talk about how things are going to improve on the pitch, however off it wonderful times ahead zzzzzzzzzzzz0
-
Why have the club been allowed to make the minuets then selves rather than independent1
-
I've made my position perfectly clear on here months ago.Addickted said:Fairly sure both Vernon Roper and John Bennett have missed the last few fans forums.
I know Vernon isn't well, but surely there shouldn't be so many apologies from fans reps at each fans forum meeting. These are generally set up well in advance. For sure Ian and Steve never seem to miss a meeting.
Apart from the fact that we are now living in E Sussex & that I don't drive, I will NOT waste my time 4 times a year listening to the pathetic responses and downright untruths from our CEO.
IMHO very little of any substance or anything worth hearing actually comes out of these meetings.
And, perhaps, most importantly, I refuse to spend my evening across the table from someone who clearly doesn't respect me or my views ....although to be honest, the feeling is mutual.
Each to their own of course but it is evident to me that more SG reps are "washing their hair" & that club employees now outnumber them.
I wonder why ?50 -
Can't really see the merit of anyone attending this, I'm afraid. Allows them to pretend everything is normal.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I've made my position perfectly clear on here months ago.Addickted said:Fairly sure both Vernon Roper and John Bennett have missed the last few fans forums.
I know Vernon isn't well, but surely there shouldn't be so many apologies from fans reps at each fans forum meeting. These are generally set up well in advance. For sure Ian and Steve never seem to miss a meeting.
Apart from the fact that we are now living in E Sussex & that I don't drive, I will NOT waste my time 4 times a year listening to the pathetic responses and downright untruths from our CEO.
IMHO very little of any substance or anything worth hearing actually comes out of these meetings.
And, perhaps, most importantly, I refuse to spend my evening across the table from someone who clearly doesn't respect me or my views ....although to be honest, the feeling is mutual.
Each to their own of course but it is evident to me that more SG reps are "washing their hair" & that club employees now outnumber them.
I wonder why ?15 -
The proposal to make FA Cup rounds 4 and 5 midweek games is ridiculous. The authorities seem determined to kill off this competition and the tradition that goes with it.7
-
I don't agree.Airman Brown said:
Can't really see the merit of anyone attending this, I'm afraid. Allows them to pretend everything is normal.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I've made my position perfectly clear on here months ago.Addickted said:Fairly sure both Vernon Roper and John Bennett have missed the last few fans forums.
I know Vernon isn't well, but surely there shouldn't be so many apologies from fans reps at each fans forum meeting. These are generally set up well in advance. For sure Ian and Steve never seem to miss a meeting.
Apart from the fact that we are now living in E Sussex & that I don't drive, I will NOT waste my time 4 times a year listening to the pathetic responses and downright untruths from our CEO.
IMHO very little of any substance or anything worth hearing actually comes out of these meetings.
And, perhaps, most importantly, I refuse to spend my evening across the table from someone who clearly doesn't respect me or my views ....although to be honest, the feeling is mutual.
Each to their own of course but it is evident to me that more SG reps are "washing their hair" & that club employees now outnumber them.
I wonder why ?
They will always be able to find a way of fulfilling their requirements under EFL.
However, the more questions they get in these forums and the wider the involvement, the more they expose themselves.
For me it's like the boycott debate. Not attending has a limited effect, attending and making your voice heard has a greater impact.
Have to say though I haven't been invited.0 -
Sponsored links:
-
You should perhaps talk to some of the people, like Fanny, who have seen through this. They are under no real challenge at the FF and they don't deliver outcomes, just waffle. Now they want to control the minutes so they can even suppress or manage out any inconvenient enquiries.Alwaysneil said:
I don't agree.Airman Brown said:
Can't really see the merit of anyone attending this, I'm afraid. Allows them to pretend everything is normal.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I've made my position perfectly clear on here months ago.Addickted said:Fairly sure both Vernon Roper and John Bennett have missed the last few fans forums.
I know Vernon isn't well, but surely there shouldn't be so many apologies from fans reps at each fans forum meeting. These are generally set up well in advance. For sure Ian and Steve never seem to miss a meeting.
Apart from the fact that we are now living in E Sussex & that I don't drive, I will NOT waste my time 4 times a year listening to the pathetic responses and downright untruths from our CEO.
IMHO very little of any substance or anything worth hearing actually comes out of these meetings.
And, perhaps, most importantly, I refuse to spend my evening across the table from someone who clearly doesn't respect me or my views ....although to be honest, the feeling is mutual.
Each to their own of course but it is evident to me that more SG reps are "washing their hair" & that club employees now outnumber them.
I wonder why ?
They will always be able to find a way of fulfilling their requirements under EFL.
However, the more questions they get in these forums and the wider the involvement, the more they expose themselves.
For me it's like the boycott debate. Not attending has a limited effect, attending and making your voice heard has a greater impact.
Have to say though I haven't been invited.
I'm not really concerned with league rules because there's no way the league is ever going to intervene whatever they do about engaging with fans. But by participating in this way fans give them an out from being out on the spot elsewhere.
The tosh about the training ground is a good example. The club published a bullshit article so no further questions are asked about it at the FF, whereas I believe Bromley put them under pressure to explain the contradictions. But that doesn't expose them publicly because it's behind closed doors at the club's insistence.
Back at the FF Steve Clarke asks them about the ticket surcharge. Meire says it's fine and will continue. I doubt if she has a clue about it. Next item. Where does this get anyone?
15 -
Final paragraph sums these meetings up.Airman Brown said:
You should perhaps talk to some of the people, like Fanny, who have seen through this. They are under no real challenge at the FF and they don't deliver outcomes, just waffle. Now they want to control the minutes so they can even suppress or manage out any inconvenient enquiries.Alwaysneil said:
I don't agree.Airman Brown said:
Can't really see the merit of anyone attending this, I'm afraid. Allows them to pretend everything is normal.Fanny Fanackapan said:
I've made my position perfectly clear on here months ago.Addickted said:Fairly sure both Vernon Roper and John Bennett have missed the last few fans forums.
I know Vernon isn't well, but surely there shouldn't be so many apologies from fans reps at each fans forum meeting. These are generally set up well in advance. For sure Ian and Steve never seem to miss a meeting.
Apart from the fact that we are now living in E Sussex & that I don't drive, I will NOT waste my time 4 times a year listening to the pathetic responses and downright untruths from our CEO.
IMHO very little of any substance or anything worth hearing actually comes out of these meetings.
And, perhaps, most importantly, I refuse to spend my evening across the table from someone who clearly doesn't respect me or my views ....although to be honest, the feeling is mutual.
Each to their own of course but it is evident to me that more SG reps are "washing their hair" & that club employees now outnumber them.
I wonder why ?
They will always be able to find a way of fulfilling their requirements under EFL.
However, the more questions they get in these forums and the wider the involvement, the more they expose themselves.
For me it's like the boycott debate. Not attending has a limited effect, attending and making your voice heard has a greater impact.
Have to say though I haven't been invited.
I'm not really concerned with league rules because there's no way the league is ever going to intervene whatever they do about engaging with fans. But by participating in this way fans give them an out from being out on the spot elsewhere.
The tosh about the training ground is a good example. The club published a bullshit article so no further questions are asked about it at the FF, whereas I believe Bromley put them under pressure to explain the contradictions. But that doesn't expose them publicly because it's behind closed doors at the club's insistence.
Back at the FF Steve Clarke asks them about the ticket surcharge. Meire says it's fine and will continue. I doubt if she has a clue about it. Next item. Where does this get anyone?1 -
9. Sale of the club CL asked if the owner has had a bid for the club that meets the asking
price. KM explained that no, because the club is not for sale.
bastards.0 -
On Tex "Russell will decide if he plays. IW asked if there is a financial reason why we cannot play him. KM said that’s a false rumour."
3 -
So Meire now claims ex World Cup finalist Alou Diarra left because he was too concerned about competition for places at centre back. Huh.20
-
In honesty if Diarra only thought he could/only wanted to play CB then letting him go was probably the right move as his wages would have been relatively high and we have lots of good options there already. And Roger Johnson.Ben18 said:So Meire now claims ex World Cup finalist Alou Diarra left because he was too concerned about competition for places at centre back. Huh.
2 -
Airman - What do you mean by this ?
"The tosh about the training ground is a good example. The club published a bullshit article so no further questions are asked about it at the FF, whereas I believe Bromley put them under pressure to explain the contradictions. But that doesn't expose them publicly because it's behind closed doors at the club's insistence."
Covered End and Henry Irving provided quite detailed reports on here of what was said and as far as I can tell there was no attempt to persuade people attending not to publicise what was said (which would have been futile and stupid anyway). So how was it behind closed doors ?
Henry reported their confused and evasive answers about the training ground so doesn't that expose them publicly ?
1 -
There's a big difference between third party accounts and an agreed record or a recording. Plenty of people would argue that such accounts on here are partial and selective, whether that's true or not.Pico said:Airman - What do you mean by this ?
"The tosh about the training ground is a good example. The club published a bullshit article so no further questions are asked about it at the FF, whereas I believe Bromley put them under pressure to explain the contradictions. But that doesn't expose them publicly because it's behind closed doors at the club's insistence."
Covered End and Henry Irving provided quite detailed reports on here of what was said and as far as I can tell there was no attempt to persuade people attending not to publicise what was said (which would have been futile and stupid anyway). So how was it behind closed doors ?
Henry reported their confused and evasive answers about the training ground so doesn't that expose them publicly ?
Indeed, where on here is there any published account of the Maidstone meeting, which preceded Bromley, and where people were also critical of the club? I understood that the club was very clear in advance that the Bromley meeting was not to be recorded.
Why is Meire apparently so frightened of going on the record unmediated, for example on the Charlton Live radio programme, in a forum where she can be asked questions by people who have the knowledge to be able to challenge her version?
Shouldn't a chief executive be capable of answering such questions in a place where the public can reach its own judgement about the quality of her response?
There's a rationale for different kinds of engagement, but it was she who unilaterally decided and announced publicly that the FF should be recorded, after all. That lasted one meeting.25 -
More lies about Diarra. I'm sure he was very worried about Kevin Foley keeping him out of the midfield.2
-
These FF meetings are just a talk shop to appease the EFL. In the world of KM where no action is en vogue these meetings are a God send.4
-
Sponsored links:
-
I saw Syd Cheesewright in the clubhouse at Greenwich Borough when they played Dulwich Hamlet a few weeks ago. He seemed pissed off with all things CAFC (protests included), surprised to see he's still involved.0
-
"many staff are not wearing their lanyards outside of work and are conscious of being seen in Charlton workwear"
Congratulations, Katrien.5 -
Two other nuggets there.
I see the club has decided they will now draft the minutes, having previously decided to renege on their promise to video them. I trust those attending will add / clarify as appropriate.
Also I see Steve Clarke attended. Is this on behalf of the Trust, as I'd thought they'd declined to attend following the meeting where they told KM and RM to do one?0 -
The other lie again repeated is about a prospective manager, presumably Chris Wilder, and the willingness or not to put in a clause about him having total control over selection and recruitment.
This may give me an opportunity to find out whether he will give an interview to VOTV or someone to put the record straight. This is the first time the club has publicly said this and he may be a little annoyed!4 -
He gets pissed off with bus drivers who are instructed to terminate their journey .. but that's another story!InspectorSands said:I saw Syd Cheesewright in the clubhouse at Greenwich Borough when they played Dulwich Hamlet a few weeks ago. He seemed pissed off with all things CAFC (protests included), surprised to see he's still involved.
1 -
I don't like the way the club associate the behaviours of individuals with the protests. They try too hard to portray themselves as victims!4
-
She met the reminiscence group today ....
who?!0 -
Kap10 said:
He gets pissed off with bus drivers who are instructed to terminate their journey .. but that's another story!InspectorSands said:I saw Syd Cheesewright in the clubhouse at Greenwich Borough when they played Dulwich Hamlet a few weeks ago. He seemed pissed off with all things CAFC (protests included), surprised to see he's still involved.
0 -
Group of older fans who meet to talk about Charlton past and present.sammy391 said:She met the reminiscence group today ....
who?!0
