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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    One of the Belgian 20 on now. Saying how KM can be very eloquent, but spins half-truths. Saggers tries to be diplomatic
  • Thank goodness for Patrick Barclay - Holland and Saggers are not very eloquent. Why would RD have failed a fit and proper test?

    I think Saggers answered you quite well there. He said its not possible to do a proper FAPP test without shedloads of money to audit a person

    Still don't know why he'd fail a fit and proper test - his wealth is presumably legitimate.
    If it is anything like approved persons fit and proper test in financial services it will be along the lines of conduct and customer interests which is certainly wanting on the latter.
    Don't think the FA/EFL could have known any of this ex ante - once subsequently discovered the legal implications are very dicey.
  • One of the Belgian 20 on now. Saying how KM can be very eloquent, but spins half-truths. Saggers tries to be diplomatic

    For whatever reason, I'm about 2 minutes behind you listening to this!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885

    One of the Belgian 20 on now. Saying how KM can be very eloquent, but spins half-truths. Saggers tries to be diplomatic

    For whatever reason, I'm about 2 minutes behind you listening to this!
    Internet v FM or Digital
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145

    Thank goodness for Patrick Barclay - Holland and Saggers are not very eloquent. Why would RD have failed a fit and proper test?

    I think Saggers answered you quite well there. He said its not possible to do a proper FAPP test without shedloads of money to audit a person

    Still don't know why he'd fail a fit and proper test - his wealth is presumably legitimate.
    If it is anything like approved persons fit and proper test in financial services it will be along the lines of conduct and customer interests which is certainly wanting on the latter.
    Don't think the FA/EFL could have known any of this ex ante - once subsequently discovered the legal implications are very dicey.
    You are right on your narrow point. But what is your prescription for improved governance then? Let the market decide?

  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    Well said Quentin.
  • iamdan said:

    Well said Quentin.

    was Quentin the guy who had the letter?
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421

    iamdan said:

    Well said Quentin.

    was Quentin the guy who had the letter?
    The ex volunteer for the club.
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,831
    Paul is apparently Foley's dad
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,000
    iamdan said:

    Well said Quentin.

    Yup, good words
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  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041
    Good show and a reasonably sized listenership if football fans. Club's inability to respond or even confirm on OS is so damning. This could be a nail in the coffin of the Belgian experience.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    edited November 2016
    Good hour of stuff there. Both barrels firmly unloaded toward the regime.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Rickey Holmes grew up in Southend.

    Just saying.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,310
    jamescafc said:

    Paul is apparently Foley's dad

    Him and his old man can both jog on
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,333
    To be honest, I am a bit surprised that some people think it might have been Roger Johnson's father. I mean, if there's one thing we know about him, it's that he's very, very unlikely to have one...
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Was Ricky Holmes dad.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    edited November 2016

    Rickey Holmes grew up in Southend.

    Just saying.

    it was Holmes Dad I would say as he also mentioned Pompey who Holmes played for as well.
  • BR3red
    BR3red Posts: 1,715
    Mike ="we won't go away"

    Loads have!!
    J BLOCK said:

    jamescafc said:

    Paul is apparently Foley's dad

    Him and his old man can both jog on
    Jog is all he ever does
  • Well Ricky best not take the corners anymore mate
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    J BLOCK said:

    jamescafc said:

    Paul is apparently Foley's dad

    Him and his old man can both jog on
    To be fair Foley did break into a proper run last Saturday albeit up another blind alley but I do get your drift :wink:
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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    jamescafc said:

    Paul is apparently Foley's dad

    He's fathered a lot of our squad it seems.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    Anakin Skywalker is Rickys father....
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    edited November 2016

    Thank goodness for Patrick Barclay - Holland and Saggers are not very eloquent. Why would RD have failed a fit and proper test?

    I think Saggers answered you quite well there. He said its not possible to do a proper FAPP test without shedloads of money to audit a person

    Still don't know why he'd fail a fit and proper test - his wealth is presumably legitimate.
    If it is anything like approved persons fit and proper test in financial services it will be along the lines of conduct and customer interests which is certainly wanting on the latter.
    Don't think the FA/EFL could have known any of this ex ante - once subsequently discovered the legal implications are very dicey.
    You are right on your narrow point. But what is your prescription for improved governance then? Let the market decide?

    Mahbe we just have to accept how ridiculous it is that we are 'fans' of a limited liability company
  • Players parents are entitled to their opinions, just as we are, even if they are wrong or uninformed, I don't think the players need grief from the fans, they've got enough on their plate to sort out, we are a sorry mess at the moment, prepare unfortunately ,for more repeated mistakes and failure this season.

    Anyone up for a protest on Saturday?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145

    Thank goodness for Patrick Barclay - Holland and Saggers are not very eloquent. Why would RD have failed a fit and proper test?

    I think Saggers answered you quite well there. He said its not possible to do a proper FAPP test without shedloads of money to audit a person

    Still don't know why he'd fail a fit and proper test - his wealth is presumably legitimate.
    If it is anything like approved persons fit and proper test in financial services it will be along the lines of conduct and customer interests which is certainly wanting on the latter.
    Don't think the FA/EFL could have known any of this ex ante - once subsequently discovered the legal implications are very dicey.
    You are right on your narrow point. But what is your prescription for improved governance then? Let the market decide?

    Mahbe we just have to accept how ridiculous it is that we are 'fans' of a limited liability company
    Well, quite. Unlike in Germany.

  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    J BLOCK said:

    jamescafc said:

    Paul is apparently Foley's dad

    Him and his old man can both jog on
    A bit too quick for them possibly.
  • No they fuckin well ain't, they haven't invested years and years of their life and money supporting the club, and will fuck off just as soon as there little boy gets a transfer, I am fuckin livid with that call.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958

    Rickey Holmes grew up in Southend.

    Just saying.

    it was Holmes Dad I would say as he also mentioned Pompey who Holmes played for as well.
    If it was then he should have some sympathy for another side that has been shafted by its owners. The way Pompey fans have picked their club up from the ashes shows exactly the same spirit that got Charlton back to the Valley.
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    edited November 2016

    Thank goodness for Patrick Barclay - Holland and Saggers are not very eloquent. Why would RD have failed a fit and proper test?

    I think Saggers answered you quite well there. He said its not possible to do a proper FAPP test without shedloads of money to audit a person

    Still don't know why he'd fail a fit and proper test - his wealth is presumably legitimate.
    If it is anything like approved persons fit and proper test in financial services it will be along the lines of conduct and customer interests which is certainly wanting on the latter.
    Don't think the FA/EFL could have known any of this ex ante - once subsequently discovered the legal implications are very dicey.
    You are right on your narrow point. But what is your prescription for improved governance then? Let the market decide?

    Mahbe we just have to accept how ridiculous it is that we are 'fans' of a limited liability company
    Well, quite. Unlike in Germany.

    Whether run well or badly, we are still structurally set up to lose several million per annum - until this changes then we are at the behest of lunatic rich owners.
  • I find it incredible that any parent of a player would ring in - are they really so clueless?