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  • What a very Dumb thing to say.
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998

    "All the things I’d heard about [before I came], haven’t been the case. I think if you asked them both they’d say maybe they underestimated how things worked in England and that’s where things fell down a little bit.”

    Given that Karl hadn't actually taken charge of a match when he said this, he might be jumping the gun a bit.

    What a worthless puff piece. Even the picture is wrong. The Guardian are so desperate for money, they will have jumped out of their skins for the Pitch PR shilling. Wankers.

    The Telegraph carried a similar interview, with the same picture of Nugent. They also captioned it as being Robinson.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,510
    Of course she's tried to give you everything you've asked for. They're desperate to make things work. Especially after their first English manager didn't work out as hoped.
  • I could think of another word for Katrien, 'unique'
  • A phenomenonal f*ck up.
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    Stig said:

    Karl,

    Everyone wants to get on with their new boss, I understand that. Of course it's a good move to publicly say something nice about them to help cement a spirt of good will. I get that too. The trouble is that your employers are so hideously bad and your praise so gushing that it immediately calls into question your professional judgement. They haven't just made a few errors, they have presided over three years of absolute shitty-shit. Their errors are so consistent, and in some cases so huge, that it makes you wonder if they deliberately get things wrong just to enjoy the schadenfreude. I don't seriously believe that's that case, but it really does seem that they have developed some strange variation of the Midas Touch, lets call it the Merde Touch, because everything they get their hands on turns to crap.

    I wish you every success in your new job, Karl. I hope that you can get Charlton promoted. But please, before making any more outrageous statements about the quality of our ownership, I seriously suggest that you acquaint yourself with some of the facts as to what has happened here:


    By selling our best players

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By bringing in incompetent network replacements

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By interfering in team selections

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By sacking a brilliant manager who loved the club

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By trying (and failing) to run a player farm

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By tying up the player budget with crocked players and those who cannot be shifted

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By offering the less than unique proposition of being able to watch the Premiership stars of the future (we could do that by watching the reserve teams of Prem sides, if that was our interest)

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By playing a youngster who was so ill, he collapsed at half time

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit (literally)!


    By refusing to engage with supporters groups until they realised it was a PR disaster

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By concocting sham supporter groups to claim that they are engaging

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By continually lying to fans

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By calling fans weird and then trying to redefine the English language in an attempt to wriggle out of it

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By closing the ticket office midweek

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By giving over ticketing space to an NHS call centre

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By imposing a fine on people buying tickets on the day

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By posting a message {…} on the intranet claiming that fans want the club to fail

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By declaring war with fans on national radio

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By employing an illegally unidentified goon-squad who attacked fans

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By declaring that certain words aren’t allowed to be used in the Stadium

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By stating in the Belgian press that they care nothing for the history of the club

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By producing an advert so out of kilter with common decency, that the ASA banned it

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By continually sacking managers (watch your back Karl) and claiming that things got better every time

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By appointing a manager without a work permit

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By imposing a ‘interim coach’ who was hopeless, but not seeking a replacement until after he’d been sacked

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By fleeing from a match in a laundry van

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By posting a photo of the wrong player on a memorial tribute

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By causing the Head of Communications to resign just weeks after taking the post

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By leaving senior management posts unfilled

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By selling chips in portions of just 14

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By cocking up vouchers compensating displaced fans so that they had no opportunity to use them

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By using the club captain as a human shield

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By using a fifteen year old boy as a smokescreen for proper communications

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By using the club’s resources to promote their own self interests rather than those of the club

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By not attending matches and letting your absence demonstrate that you don’t care

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By publicly stating that the club are only 1.5% of your interests

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By getting the club to its lowest league position ever

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By presiding over an unprecedented fall in attendances (enjoy the support from all those empty seats, Karl)

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!


    By racking up £30+ million in debts and charging the club interest on those debts

    …that’s where things fell down a little bit!

    What's your point?
  • If the Trust haven't heard back from Robinson in the next couple of weeks, then I'll suggest we simply send him Stig's list.
    (By the way, the letter was hand delivered to the training ground, so he most certainly should have received it.)
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,202
    "things fell down a little bit.” No shit Karl.
  • 3blokes
    3blokes Posts: 4,610
    Read Stig's list to a Liverpool fan earlier. He knew about the protests ( especially the flying pigs) but his jaw dropped open as I went down that list. He said they just sound completely ridiculous.
    That's almost the difficulty, getting the message about just how disastrous they actually are.
    If weird means unique, then I vote we say that "fell down a little bit" actually means "fucking hopeless."
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,320

    TBF, if I had to make an uninformed wild guess.

    Why change the habit of a lifetime


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  • If you fall down a bit, people laugh. If you fall down a lot, people feel sorry for you. If you fall down constantly, you need help.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    by inviting a fan to sign a contract regarding their online persona in order to buy a season ticket

    is this on yr list stig?

    Stig, do you know you're a bit of a star?
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,129
    They are so bad, I think there's plenty of stuff not on the list. As soon as I'd posted it, I remembered that they tried to blame the post office for their own inefficiencies in sending out tickets and the kerfuffle about disabled supporters accessing the lounges. I didn't want to post straight away though because I'd already had a telling off from Scabby Horse for daring to remind people anything negative.
  • Red7Oak
    Red7Oak Posts: 498
    0 - 0 at home to MK Dons looks like were moving in the right direction again!!! :neutral:
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,278
    WSS said:
    Slade said that. Soon went out of the window when September started
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,320
    shirty5 said:

    WSS said:
    Slade said that. Soon went out of the window when September started
    Was about to say the same. Déjà vu of when Slade started.
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,705
    The man is an idiot, likes the sound of his own voice.
  • hmmoore
    hmmoore Posts: 125

    I actually don't share as much animosity towards Katrien as most on here. She is the mouthpiece for Roland and has to face the music when Roland makes ridiculous decisions and statements.

    She wouldn't have said what she said on Talksport about Russel Slade if she knew he was in danger. She's said it and Roland has totally undermined her.

    Why she doesn't just walk away confuses me.

    She was offered a fantastic job as CEO of CAFC and took it (as we all would have?). She is now a rabbit in the headlights but realises if she walks away she goes back to being a junior lawyer on peanuts with a tarnished reputation. She'll hang around all the time Roland wants her to. No self respect/pride, no clue, no future.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,837
    edited December 2016
    Can see club's response to these...
    Stig said:



    By selling our best players

    Yann & Dale were homesick... it's easier to get to France and t'north from Bournemouth & Brighton respectively as the public transport system in London is not fit for purpose & the roads permanently grid locked. The players both forced moves on that basis

    By bringing in incompetent network replacements

    Racist xenophobic fans.


    By interfering in team selections

    You say this but we may have stayed up had the managers not stubbornly ignored my suggestion of the "snowflake" 4- 3- 4-2-1-3 formation with the quarterbacks shooting from the free throw line for a try & using the whole ring.


    By sacking a brilliant manager who loved the club

    Karel Fraeye lost 14 on the trot & fans were calling for his sacking


    By trying (and failing) to run a player farm

    We were exploiting EU subsidies for this. Will need to reassess post Brexit. Racist xenophobic fans.


    By tying up the player budget with crocked players and those who cannot be shifted

    If the player has one bad knee he must learn to run with the other knee. It's unique that modern players don't wish to do this


    By offering the less than unique proposition of being able to watch the Premiership stars of the future (we could do that by watching the reserve teams of Prem sides, if that was our interest)

    A Spurs cabbie assured me that Charlton is better than Spur's reserves and even their first team experience so he will watch us now.


    By playing a youngster who was so ill, he collapsed at half time

    You rather we discriminate against the sick?


    By refusing to engage with supporters groups until they realised it was a PR disaster

    Have you seen some of them? Would you sit in a room with them?


    By concocting sham supporter groups to claim that they are engaging

    Simply not true. Only this week we have met with Addis Ababa Addicks, Target Return to Selhurst & a lady in the queue at the post office who told me her son's train to work passes the Valley.


    By continually lying to fans

    We've not lied once in 7 years of funding CAFC & delivering Champions league football


    By calling fans weird and then trying to redefine the English language in an attempt to wriggle out of it

    This was misinterpreted. We have never called fans "weird" and deem this a freakish allegation from the immensely strange group of misfits and oddballs that follow the club.


    By closing the ticket office midweek

    We've been been able to fund 3 sofas & pie cam for this minor inconvenience.


    By giving over ticketing space to an NHS call centre

    You really do hate the sick


    By imposing a fine on people buying tickets on the day

    It is not a "fine" but a House DJ surcharge


    By posting a message {…} on the intranet claiming that fans want the club to fail

    Have you never accidentally sent an email before finishing typ


    By declaring war with fans on national radio

    Would you rather we did so on international television? We will look into this.


    By employing an illegally unidentified goon-squad who attacked fans

    This was nothing to do with the club. Intelligence suggests it was Red Division making a stand against the tartan blanket siddarn' brigade. Werthers originals are still being found on the concourses as I type. It was always going to boil over between such a partisan and sectarian collective of fans inside a pressure cooker of a club


    By declaring that certain words aren’t allowed to be used in the Stadium

    We've worked too hard to let "supposed fans" drag the terraces back to the 1970s. Think of the children potty mouth.


    By stating in the Belgian press that they care nothing for the history of the club

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    By producing an advert so out of kilter with common decency, that the ASA banned it

    Chris Powell suggested the advert in a email & it's sadly why we had to let him go. The email was very detailed & choreographed right down the the shade of the stilettos. This will be revealed in Roland's podcast, episode 1 due to air next week and downloadable from ITunes.


    By continually sacking managers (watch your back Karl) and claiming that things got better every time

    We've learned from this & are already succession planning by scouting the top European leagues for a replacement in case things don't work out with Chris O'Lough... Karl Robinson. In fact one of our 12 year old scouts recently complained he missed a whole week of Cubs because he was watching games in suburban Albania & northern Lichtenstein.


    By appointing a manager without a work permit

    Racist xenophobic fans.


    By imposing a ‘interim coach’ who was hopeless, but not seeking a replacement until after he’d been sacked

    Come on...it gave the excellent witty chant "Get interim, fuck 'em up!" and you cannot put a price on that sort of comedy.


    By fleeing from a match in a laundry van

    Jealous. Suppose you got the train. Yawn.

    By posting a photo of the wrong player on a memorial tribute

    This was pretty fucking unforgivable. Still, one mistake in 3 years huh.


    By causing the Head of Communications to resign just weeks after taking the post

    We're working hard to replace this role & our next HoC will be our Alex Ferguson. Maybe even Alex Ferguson. I've interviewed 297 suitable candidates whilst writing this response.


    By leaving senior management posts unfilled

    There is no one currently available to respond to this.


    By selling chips in portions of just 14

    Perhaps you can take extra ones from your shoulder huh? #LOLZ BANTZ


    By cocking up vouchers compensating displaced fans so that they had no opportunity to use them

    We will be sending replacement vouchers to be used at last Thursday's Littlewoods cup game versus Stockport County.


    By using the club captain as a human shield

    No the club shield is still the sword and hand. You're mistaken.


    By using a fifteen year old boy as a smokescreen for proper communications

    I believe the children are our are future
    Teach them well and let them lead the way
    Show them all the beauty they possess inside
    Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
    Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

    By using the club’s resources to promote their own self interests rather than those of the club

    If you can't see the value in residential aromatherapy courses then I pity you


    By not attending matches and letting your absence demonstrate that you don’t care

    I'm shy.


    By publicly stating that the club are only 1.5% of your interests

    I have lots of interests. It's healthy to... how you say?....not keep all your hens home to roost in one basket better than 2 in a bush.


    By getting the club to its lowest league position ever

    Judge us on results not tables.



    By presiding over an unprecedented fall in attendances (enjoy the support from all those empty seats, Karl)

    We're working closely with Target 5k to rectify this & expect to reopen the covered end & East stand ahead of our opening Vanarama fixture in 2019. Have you seen the nice new south stand sing though-focus on the positives & don't sweat the small stuff.


    By racking up £30+ million in debts and charging the club interest on those debts

    More to football than money son.

    Best

    The SMT


  • Depressing that he seems to have come in believing everything is great at the club and the only problem is that Meire and Duchatalet are misunderstood.

    OK, he wanted the job and we can hardly expect him to attack his boss from the off. But there are limits

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  • WSS said:

    Winning promotion would swing the balance back in his favour.

    Not for me it wouldn't.

    Unless it's promotion to the Premier League.
    Even then he'd still be a total w*nker.
    hmmoore said:

    I actually don't share as much animosity towards Katrien as most on here. She is the mouthpiece for Roland and has to face the music when Roland makes ridiculous decisions and statements.

    She wouldn't have said what she said on Talksport about Russel Slade if she knew he was in danger. She's said it and Roland has totally undermined her.

    Why she doesn't just walk away confuses me.

    She was offered a fantastic job as CEO of CAFC and took it (as we all would have?). She is now a rabbit in the headlights but realises if she walks away she goes back to being a junior lawyer on peanuts with a tarnished reputation. She'll hang around all the time Roland wants her to. No self respect/pride, no clue, no future.
    No principals, no morals, no manners.

    Does anybody want to add to this?
  • Stig said:

    They are so bad, I think there's plenty of stuff not on the list. As soon as I'd posted it, I remembered that they tried to blame the post office for their own inefficiencies in sending out tickets and the kerfuffle about disabled supporters accessing the lounges. I didn't want to post straight away though because I'd already had a telling off from Scabby Horse for daring to remind people anything negative.

    The list is endless.
  • .

    TBF, if I had to make an uninformed wild guess.

    Why change the habit of a lifetime

    Still doing your trolling Henry I see. We can't all claim to be ITK, or wish to imply we are, so it's only polite to identify something as pure speculation or BS.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,320

    .

    TBF, if I had to make an uninformed wild guess.

    Why change the habit of a lifetime

    Still doing your trolling Henry I see. We can't all claim to be ITK, or wish to imply we are, so it's only polite to identify something as pure speculation or BS.
    you are correct. BS sums up your posts well.
  • .

    TBF, if I had to make an uninformed wild guess.

    Why change the habit of a lifetime

    Still doing your trolling Henry I see. We can't all claim to be ITK, or wish to imply we are, so it's only polite to identify something as pure speculation or BS.
    you are correct. BS sums up your posts well.
    Brilliant Stuff...
  • It's true Katrien is Phenomenal. A phenomenal fuckup.
  • You can't blame Robinson. He is ambitious and obviously aiming for a move, in due course, to one of the bigger clubs in the Network.
  • Sam lloyd
    Sam lloyd Posts: 1,083

    It's true Katrien is Phenomenal. A phenomenal fuckup.

    .................and a phenomenal LIAR !!
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717
    edited December 2016
    Gillis said:

    "All the things I’d heard about [before I came], haven’t been the case. I think if you asked them both they’d say maybe they underestimated how things worked in England and that’s where things fell down a little bit.”

    Given that Karl hadn't actually taken charge of a match when he said this, he might be jumping the gun a bit.

    What a worthless puff piece. Even the picture is wrong. The Guardian are so desperate for money, they will have jumped out of their skins for the Pitch PR shilling. Wankers.

    The Telegraph carried a similar interview, with the same picture of Nugent. They also captioned it as being Robinson.
    Pitch PR should offer more accurate press briefings, considering the cost of their services
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,421

    Gillis said:

    "All the things I’d heard about [before I came], haven’t been the case. I think if you asked them both they’d say maybe they underestimated how things worked in England and that’s where things fell down a little bit.”

    Given that Karl hadn't actually taken charge of a match when he said this, he might be jumping the gun a bit.

    What a worthless puff piece. Even the picture is wrong. The Guardian are so desperate for money, they will have jumped out of their skins for the Pitch PR shilling. Wankers.

    The Telegraph carried a similar interview, with the same picture of Nugent. They also captioned it as being Robinson.
    Pitch PR should offer more accurate press briefings, considering the cost of their services
    They are too busy pleading with Katrien not to talk to anyone. That's a full time job, so other mistakes will happen.