Season ticket sales next season?
So the club are probably finalizing their strategy for selling season tickets next season, and I cant see it being anything other then another disaster. We lost 40% of ST holders last season, and a big chunk of the ones that renewed probably did so in the hope we would put a good squad together and get promoted. This hasnt happened so perhaps that means another large percentage of ST holders wont bother next season, having seen how this season panned out.
How many do we have at moment? 5ish thousand?
Could we see that drop even lower next season, to 3 or 4 thousand?
What kind of price can the club charge with another season in League One looming? £175 is the rock bottom the SMT would probably want to charge, so at best they could probably only freeze that? Would anyone want to pay more then £175 for a season ticket in League One?
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I wouldn't put it past them keeping it at same price this season or putting on another 25 pounds as usual.
But yes sales will plummet either way.0 -
I think a season ticket boycott should be advised.2
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Next season! - blimey, you're depressing people already!3
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Getting that from the expert, regardless of your lol count.ricky_otto said:Next season! - blimey, your depressing people already!
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Next season I think we will be getting close to just the super-hardcore renewing and thats it without needing an actual boycott.ElfsborgAddick said:I think a season ticket boycott should be advised.
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The SMT organised one is already in hand.ElfsborgAddick said:I think a season ticket boycott should be advised.
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Assuming we're still in league 1 under this regime I think they will stay fairly static IE around 6k to 6.5k
A play off appearance, even a failed one could see a bump as obviously would promotion or new ownership.
I wonder if they will take a risk of adopting the Bradford model of £150 each. You get volume but not income but it's a risk if the take up doesn't appear. It also leaves you in a difficult situation if you want to switch back to a traditional pricing model. We discussed and rejected it for those reasons on the old Target 40k group.5 -
Season ticket sales will continue to fall until major changes are made at the club.
By that i mean Douchbag selling
Meire being replaced by someone competent
Or promotion back to the championship.
As i can't see us going up under this lot we may have to wait a little longer before sales increase6 -
This.blackpool72 said:Season ticket sales will continue to fall until major changes are made at the club.
By that i mean Douchbag selling
Meire being replaced by someone competent
Or promotion back to the championship.
As i can't see us going up under this lot we may have to wait a little longer before sales increase0 -
I'm not sure the Bradford model £150 would work either. Target 20k did suggest the North Lower prices be set at £150 for this season at the same time when suggested the cheapest area should revert back to the North Lower then you might be able to gauge the uptake there as a guide to the rest of the ground but even at £175 there's still plenty of seats available in the North Lower which doesn't convince me an extra £25 saving would fill it either.Henry Irving said:Assuming we're still in league 1 under this regime I think they will stay fairly static IE around 6k to 6.5k
A play off appearance, even a failed one could see a bump as obviously would promotion or new ownership.
I wonder if they will take a risk of adopting the Bradford model of £150 each. You get volume but not income but it's a risk if the take up doesn't appear. It also leaves you in a difficult situation if you want to switch back to a traditional pricing model. We discussed and rejected it for those reasons on the old Target 40k group.1 - Sponsored links:
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I think this is pretty spot on. I can't see anyone other than the kind of people who have been going with family or friends for years and do it as much for the social occasion than anything else, because it sure as hell isn't to watch the shower of shit on the pitch.CAFCTrev said:
Next season I think we will be getting close to just the super-hardcore renewing and thats it without needing an actual boycott.ElfsborgAddick said:I think a season ticket boycott should be advised.
If they sell it will be a pretty decent uplift I should imagine, including myself0 -
I don't see season ticket sales falling significantly assuming no price increases, especially if we finish the season reasonably strongly
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I'm most disappointed when you don't end your posts with "just sell the club and f@ck off" !blackpool72 said:Season ticket sales will continue to fall until major changes are made at the club.
By that i mean Douchbag selling
Meire being replaced by someone competent
Or promotion back to the championship.
As i can't see us going up under this lot we may have to wait a little longer before sales increase2 -
Pretty sure the prize was frozen for this season's ST's?
If they remained that price next season we will still be paying championship prices to watch 3rd tier football.
A strong end to the season and a price reduction may persuade some to renew but unfortunately I can't see that happening, so I can't see more than 5k sold next season
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Alsoricky_otto said:
I'm most disappointed when you don't end your posts with "sell the club and f@ck off" !blackpool72 said:Season ticket sales will continue to fall until major changes are made at the club.
By that i mean Douchbag selling
Meire being replaced by someone competent
Or promotion back to the championship.
As i can't see us going up under this lot we may have to wait a little longer before sales increase
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Assuming no play off challenge, assuming no sale by RD, assuming KM remains......... oh and just throwing it out there assuming no relegation.
I suspect they'll drop, not by a huge amount, but reduce all the same. That is of course assuming they keep pricing as is. if they increased the North Lower i think you'd see a lot more fall away. if they do keep the same pricing I expect more people to move over from the East & West, heard a few people say thats what they will do.
You're getting to the core now, much like the late 80's - how depressing!0 -
But not everyone wants to sit in the North lower and it is easy to move to the North upper I'm told.MartinCAFC said:
I'm not sure the Bradford model £150 would work either. Target 20k did suggest the North Lower prices be set at £150 for this season at the same time when suggested the cheapest area should revert back to the North Lower then you might be able to gauge the uptake there as a guide to the rest of the ground but even at £175 there's still plenty of seats available in the North Lower which doesn't convince me an extra £25 saving would fill it either.Henry Irving said:Assuming we're still in league 1 under this regime I think they will stay fairly static IE around 6k to 6.5k
A play off appearance, even a failed one could see a bump as obviously would promotion or new ownership.
I wonder if they will take a risk of adopting the Bradford model of £150 each. You get volume but not income but it's a risk if the take up doesn't appear. It also leaves you in a difficult situation if you want to switch back to a traditional pricing model. We discussed and rejected it for those reasons on the old Target 40k group.
£150 or £175 to sit in the east or west would be an attractive offer to many casual fans and even maybe a few boycotters.
I'm not convinced it would work and I don't think the numbers add up either. Plus SE London and Kent isn't Bradford and I don't think our fans are as price sensitive.
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I don't see them dropping off too much. If the fans who are still going haven't seen enough to make them boycott by now, then i don't see why next season would be any different.
Especially as if KR is still in charge and we actually have a manager working on signings and pre season training from early on (unlike we had with Slade when players supposedly didn't even have a date to return to training) then we should fare better next season.3 -
Will probably get myself one and a kids one. Want the owners gone but miss going to games and want to take younger family members regularly so they get
stuck with this horrible albatross generational cursethe Charlton bug and don't end up following other clubs.
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How many people are not going because it's too expensive? Very few, I should think.16
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I don't think the number of ST holders will reduce too much, you don't really need a season ticket this year and that won't change next year.0
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I do hear what you're saying but part of the incentive for £150 seats in the North Lower was to try and fill it as much as possible to help generate a better atmosphere in there and for it to not look so empty as it did last season when goals went in that end.Henry Irving said:
But not everyone wants to sit in the North lower and it is easy to move to the North upper I'm told.MartinCAFC said:
I'm not sure the Bradford model £150 would work either. Target 20k did suggest the North Lower prices be set at £150 for this season at the same time when suggested the cheapest area should revert back to the North Lower then you might be able to gauge the uptake there as a guide to the rest of the ground but even at £175 there's still plenty of seats available in the North Lower which doesn't convince me an extra £25 saving would fill it either.Henry Irving said:Assuming we're still in league 1 under this regime I think they will stay fairly static IE around 6k to 6.5k
A play off appearance, even a failed one could see a bump as obviously would promotion or new ownership.
I wonder if they will take a risk of adopting the Bradford model of £150 each. You get volume but not income but it's a risk if the take up doesn't appear. It also leaves you in a difficult situation if you want to switch back to a traditional pricing model. We discussed and rejected it for those reasons on the old Target 40k group.
£150 or £175 to sit in the east or west would be an attractive offer to many casual fans and even maybe a few boycotters.
I'm not convinced it would work and I don't think the numbers add up either. Plus SE London and Kent isn't Bradford and I don't think our fans are as price sensitive.
However, I wouldn't put it passed the regime to attempt it without working thru the numbers or thinking thru the implications
I do agree though I think any extra income gained from new / returning ST holders by making it £150 anywhere in the ground would be outweighed by the reduced income elsewhere in the ground from those renewing.0 -
I spend quite a bit of time in Bradford, in laws are ST holders. The big difference is that Bradford actually care about their fans, the team and have people who actually know how to run a real community club properly. Things will continue as they are with us until they are gone11
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Yes but Meire, Keohone and target 20k won't look that deeply into it.Bigbadbozman said:I spend quite a bit of time in Bradford, in laws are ST holders. The big difference is that Bradford actually care about their fans, the team and have people who actually know how to run a real community club properly. Things will continue as they are with us until they are gone
15k STs (IIRC) so let's copy Bradford but without copying all the things you've mentioned, only the pricing.
Meire, Cajones and T20k will then wonder why it hasn't worked as they'll think they did everything right.7 -
It is too expensive... in emotional energy. It's not very enjoyable and it isn't much fun (and that was last season...and the one before that). I cannot support this current version of Charlton Athletic.
Thus, it follows that I used to support Charlton Athletic. How sad. That's my reality. It's one that has been foisted on me by others. I don't want it to be like that, I don't like it like that, but that's the way it is. I am not alone in feeling this way. And it could all have been so different, had the owner seen fit to engage from the off.
Anyway....Season Tickets next year... in the unlikely event of promotion, some stay-aways will probably return. Think of a figure. A lowly figure. Another season in Division Three? 3,000 / 3,500. Average crowds? 8,000 if doing well. Perhaps fewer.
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That's your view and I respect that but if someone asks me "who do you support?" I say Charlton without any hesitation.Anna_Kissed said:It is too expensive... in emotional energy. It's not very enjoyable and it isn't much fun (and that was last season...and the one before that). I cannot support this current version of Charlton Athletic.
Thus, it follows that I used to support Charlton Athletic. How sad. That's my reality. It's one that has been foisted on me by others. I don't want it to be like that, I don't like it like that, but that's the way it is. I am not alone in feeling this way. And it could all have been so different, had the owner seen fit to engage from the off.
Anyway....Season Tickets next year... in the unlikely event of promotion, some stay-aways will probably return. Think of a figure. A lowly figure. Another season in Division Three? 3,000 / 3,500. Average crowds? 8,000 if doing well. Perhaps fewer.
I'm a Charlton fan despite this regime.4 -
He's not alone though, roughly 5,000 aren't attending that were 3-4 years ago. I'm sure in the street if you asked Anna who he supports he'd say Charlton, but he can't bring himself to go along and 'support'.Henry Irving said:
That's your view and I respect that but if someone asks me "who do you support?" I say Charlton without any hesitation.Anna_Kissed said:It is too expensive... in emotional energy. It's not very enjoyable and it isn't much fun (and that was last season...and the one before that). I cannot support this current version of Charlton Athletic.
Thus, it follows that I used to support Charlton Athletic. How sad. That's my reality. It's one that has been foisted on me by others. I don't want it to be like that, I don't like it like that, but that's the way it is. I am not alone in feeling this way. And it could all have been so different, had the owner seen fit to engage from the off.
Anyway....Season Tickets next year... in the unlikely event of promotion, some stay-aways will probably return. Think of a figure. A lowly figure. Another season in Division Three? 3,000 / 3,500. Average crowds? 8,000 if doing well. Perhaps fewer.
I'm a Charlton fan despite this regime.
It's very sad that this is what it's come to for so many fans. I've said it elsewhere, in 3 years they've managed to undo the last 25.20 -
Assuming this year is 6,500
No promotion, RD still in charge: 5,500
Promotion, RD still in charge: 9,500
No Promotion, RD gone: 10,000
Promotion, RD gone: 27,11110 -
A charlton fan long after they have gone.1
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That's your view and I respect that but if someone asks me "who do you support?" I say Charlton without any hesitation.
Yes. But I said 'this current version'. I refer to active support, i.e. paying to watch games. I choose not to do that. I've been involved in the protests from the start and in that regard I continue in my support of our famous football club, albeit not financially. I shall continue to campaign for the version I recognise and the version I wish to see again.13
