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Jorge Teixeria wants more playing time

LouisMend
LouisMend Posts: 5,486
in General Charlton
Only started one of four games since returning from suspension

https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/18059/charlton-athletic-defender-wants-game-time/
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    I thik he is right. It is ridiculous he hasn't been starting.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,952
    Well, duh! Purely a space filler.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,056
    I really like Jorge...

    He's our best Centre-Back and reckon only Michael Morrison is one of few better CBs we've had in recent year.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    "The Portuguese defender was frozen out under previous Addicks boss Russell Slade but had been brought back into the first-team picture by successor Karl Robinson."
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    I know he is a centre back, but it woud be interesting to see how his goals per appearances stack up aganst all of our other players! This is is a side full of missers!
  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,588
    He should be starting, ridiculous that he is not.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,435
    ForeverAddickted said:

    I really like Jorge...

    He's our best Centre-Back and reckon only Michael Morrison is one of few better CBs we've had in recent year.

    TBH, Fanni and Jason Pearce all spring to mind as well

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,056
    edited February 2017
    Goal Scorers with 3 or more goals this season (in all competitions)

    Josh Magennis (8) | Ricky Holmes (5) | Johnnie Jackson (4) | Jorge Teixeira (3) | Patrick Bauer (3) |

    Ademola Lookman (7) | Nicky Ajose (7)
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,900
    edited February 2017
    ForeverAddickted said:

    I really like Jorge...

    He's our best Centre-Back and reckon only Michael Morrison is one of few better CBs we've had in recent year.

    He certainly did his bit for the cause on Saturday. There's got to be more to his situation than meets the eye,

    His experience surely should make him nailed on to start every game at this level he is available for. Whether he is on some sort of bonus system when he plays, kicked up a stink when we got relegated to get away which upset Slade (who brought in Pearse) or attitude in training we don't know and won't until probably he writes his memoirs.

    If as is rumoured the Douchbag insists on youngsters being in the shop window (Konsa) it means it's Tex or BFG at the mo for the other CB berth. In the regime's eyes, he becomes a luxury they can do without however it's not his fault Pinocchio screwed up with the length / terms of his contract which has made him the meat in the sandwich IMO.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,435
    Surely our highest paid player should be in the show window as well?

    The only way to get someone to buy him and take his wages of our books is for him to perform and impress a suitor. It would have made entire sense to have played him in the first half of the season, with the aim of finding a buyer in January. There are plenty of desperate Championship clubs with wealthy owners, who'd overspend in January in order to try and avoid relegation

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  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,900
    edited February 2017
    killerandflash said:

    Surely our highest paid player should be in the show window as well?

    The only way to get someone to buy him and take his wages of our books is for him to perform and impress a suitor. It would have made entire sense to have played him in the first half of the season, with the aim of finding a buyer in January. There are plenty of desperate Championship clubs with wealthy owners, who'd overspend in January in order to try and avoid relegation

    Yes and that is why Pinochio has cut off her nose to spite her face in this particular set of circumstances :wink:
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,075
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Goal Scorers with over 3-goals this season (in all competitions)

    Josh Magennis (8) | Ricky Holmes (5) | Johnnie Jackson (4) | Jorge Teixeira (3) | Patrick Bauer (3) |

    Ademola Lookman (7) | Nicky Ajose (7)

    3 isn't over 3.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,056
    iainment said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Goal Scorers with over 3-goals this season (in all competitions)

    Josh Magennis (8) | Ricky Holmes (5) | Johnnie Jackson (4) | Jorge Teixeira (3) | Patrick Bauer (3) |

    Ademola Lookman (7) | Nicky Ajose (7)

    3 isn't over 3.
    Amended for the pedantic ;)
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,556
    In a low scoring team, Tex's goal threat should make him an automatic pick. I think he also got a couple when he played for the U23s earlier this season and clearly knows how to sniff out the 2nd balls in the box. Decent enough defender to make it a no-brainer.

    If and when Pearce comes back, I wonder if we could play a back three?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,056
    Simonsen said:

    If and when Pearce comes back, I wonder if we could play a back three?

    My concern with that idea is if the Wing-Backs get caught out, it leaves Bauer | Teixeira | Pearce almost exposed, Lee Gregory proved for Millwall at the Valley how slow two of them are and dont remember Pearce being much quicker.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,980
    We are fortunate to have 4 very decent centre backs for this level. Pearce is injured so that's eased the headache slightly. There isn't a lot to choose between Tex, Bauer and Konsa. But realistically Konsa is going to be sold for millions so the ethos of the club means he is more likely to play to get in the shop window.

    Bauer is hopefully going to be with us for a while so is getting quality time in.

    Tex can't seem to attract a suitor (which I find ridiculous) so is just making things awkward for the gaffer really.

    No harm in it all - competition for places is good.
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,474
    Play Tex up front with Josh!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,056
    Swisdom said:

    We are fortunate to have 4 very decent centre backs for this level. Pearce is injured so that's eased the headache slightly. There isn't a lot to choose between Tex, Bauer and Konsa. But realistically Konsa is going to be sold for millions so the ethos of the club means he is more likely to play to get in the shop window.

    Bauer is hopefully going to be with us for a while so is getting quality time in.

    Tex can't seem to attract a suitor (which I find ridiculous) so is just making things awkward for the gaffer really.

    No harm in it all - competition for places is good.

    Oh I reckon there are plenty of clubs that want him (Just look at the amount of clubs he's played for)

    Just none want to fork out the type of wage he's on, nor will he want to take a pay cut when he can see out a further 3-years with us.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,601
    edited February 2017
    Does anyone else think our squad is well suited to the modern 3 at the back formation?

    Rudd
    Bauer Konsa Teixeira
    Solly Crofts Forster-Caskey Chicksen
    Byrne Magennis Holmes

    For instance?

    Not saying play that team every game, but i think it's a viable option. I personally think Konsa and Aribo should play as many games as possible from now until the end of the season, develop them as much as possible, so they are either our best players by far next season, or sold for a hefty price and Robinson is then given something to work with (haha i know)
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,607
    I prefer Bauer and Pearce, but while Pearce is out it is strange how he doesn't start. His defending is very dodgy at times

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,412
    edited February 2017
    Swisdom said:

    We are fortunate to have 4 very decent centre backs for this level. Pearce is injured so that's eased the headache slightly. There isn't a lot to choose between Tex, Bauer and Konsa. But realistically Konsa is going to be sold for millions so the ethos of the club means he is more likely to play to get in the shop window.

    Bauer is hopefully going to be with us for a while so is getting quality time in.

    Tex can't seem to attract a suitor (which I find ridiculous) so is just making things awkward for the gaffer really.

    No harm in it all - competition for places is good.

    There isn't a lot to choose between Tex, Bauer and Konsa.

    There is at centre back I believe. I think Konsa is better in midfield, and looks a bit bully-able in defense. He'll fill in ok, if needed though, but I'd play Tex/Bauer, Bauer/Pearce, or even Tex/Pearce.

    And if Tex really is as expensive as they say, and he's staying for the next three years, then at least get our money's worth.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271
    There are not many players in this Third Division with Serie A and Europa League experience...
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,493
    it's all been written above .. Tex must be a starter .. Konsa should never start in central defence again, or at least not until he is bigger and physically stronger .. he's a great prospect but at the present as a midfielder or full/wing back
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,075
    ForeverAddickted said:

    iainment said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Goal Scorers with over 3-goals this season (in all competitions)

    Josh Magennis (8) | Ricky Holmes (5) | Johnnie Jackson (4) | Jorge Teixeira (3) | Patrick Bauer (3) |

    Ademola Lookman (7) | Nicky Ajose (7)

    3 isn't over 3.
    Amended for the pedantic ;)
    Why thank you.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,980
    I don't think Konsa gets bullied about that much considering he's new to the first team squad and is still learning and developing. He certainly isn't directly at fault for goals like Bauer has been...and he doesn't pick up unnecessary cards like Bauer has.

    I've seen a few comments about Konsa on Twitter where people say he shouldn't even be in the first team squad - personally I think he is an incredible talent and another extremely likeable and humble lad.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    edited February 2017
    I think it probably isn't just wages but the length of contract given his age - He is a decent player, but I was a bit shocked when we signed him for that length.

    I rate Konsa very highly, and he will go on to have a great career - but at thi smoment in time, you have to play Tex - if as I have said before - it is just for his goals.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,900
    edited February 2017
    Swisdom said:

    I don't think Konsa gets bullied about that much considering he's new to the first team squad and is still learning and developing. He certainly isn't directly at fault for goals like Bauer has been...and he doesn't pick up unnecessary cards like Bauer has.

    I've seen a few comments about Konsa on Twitter where people say he shouldn't even be in the first team squad - personally I think he is an incredible talent and another extremely likeable and humble lad.

    Not sure if you were at the game Saturday but it looked like he was targeted, bullied call it what you want, which if you're a hardened pro striker at L1 level you're not going to let a young lad have an easy ride. I'm not doubting his ability or potential but it's all a learning process for him as he matures fully. Had he not gone off I personally don't think we would have got anything from the game but of course there would then have been a completely different set of dynamics.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,493
    edited February 2017
    RedChaser said:

    Swisdom said:

    I don't think Konsa gets bullied about that much considering he's new to the first team squad and is still learning and developing. He certainly isn't directly at fault for goals like Bauer has been...and he doesn't pick up unnecessary cards like Bauer has.

    I've seen a few comments about Konsa on Twitter where people say he shouldn't even be in the first team squad - personally I think he is an incredible talent and another extremely likeable and humble lad.

    Not sure if you were at the game Saturday but it looked like he was targeted, bullied call it what you want, which if your a hardened pro striker at L1 level you're not going to let a young lad have an easy ride. I'm not doubting his ability or potential but it's all a learning process for him as he matures fully. Had he not gone off I personally don't think we would have got anything from the game but of course there would then have been a completely different set of dynamics.
    a perfect summary and I entirely agree
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    Put yourself in Robinson's shoes - you have commented on lack of goals - you know Tex is one of the few players we have who knows where the goal is - it has to be outside influence. Getting anybody to admit to it will be harder though. Maybe the best source will be Robinson's eyes if he is asked the question!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,270
    edited February 2017
    Roland said at the start of the season, something like we were only playing 5 Academy products and we need to be playing 6 or more. Obviously, it has to be so, to make his plan work. There's no point developing them if you don't play them in the first team.

    This is also the reason the squad is deliberately kept under strength. The regime are not as incompetent as some fans think.

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