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They WON'T sack Robinson

AFKABartram
AFKABartram Posts: 57,833
in General Charlton
-He is happy to take 'Mr President's' spy on his staff

- He's a public face that loves to chat and get in the media, happily taking the flak and demand away from regime Roland and Katrien

- He's happy to follow the party line, talk up youngsters, sign up to the philosophy of producing and selling on at profit

- They won't pay out again at a time of the year that they want to cut their costs and we are not going down

- They and their apologists can effectively write off the last three months of the season and excuse underperformance by talking once again about 'summer rebuilds' 'allowing him to build his squad' 'fresh promises of change' etc
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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    I make you right
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,015
    All makes sense but can't see Roland keeping him until August.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,775
    Don't care if they do or don't, as it's irrelevant.
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,860
    edited February 2017
    Exactly. They want a personality to be manager not someone who is going to drastically improve us apart from the youth team.

    Trouble is I think KR joined thinking he would be the one to succeed where others have failed and realised very soon that he would not.

    He then made a choice to join them rather than challenge them.

    When the manager is part of the poison it leaves our club in the worst place it has been for a long, long time.
  • mogodonman
    mogodonman Posts: 237
    Agree. The only way they will sack him is if Roland has someone else lined up. I suspect there are few British managers (other than the desperate or the unemployable) who would want anything to do with us, and appointing a foreigner would just be taking a massive stop backwards in terms of their attempts to show they are listening. We're close to being unmanageable.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,033
    AFKABartram said:

    -He is happy to take 'Mr President's' spy on his staff

    - He's a public face that loves to chat and get in the media, happily taking the flak and demand away from regime Roland and Katrien

    - He's happy to follow the party line, talk up youngsters, sign up to the philosophy of producing and selling on at profit

    - They won't pay out again at a time of the year that they want to cut their costs and we are not going down

    - They and their apologists can effectively write off the last three months of the season and excuse underperformance by talking once again about 'summer rebuilds' 'allowing him to build his squad' 'fresh promises of change' etc


    Given the utter shite we've failed to beat during February, and considering the March fixtures are a lot tougher, i wouldn't be so certain.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,661
    They both deserve each other then, if he's not sack.

    I have also said he managed a team that finished below us last season.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    Far from certain we won't go down. Football can change fast, but right now we look disorganized and lacking in invention. That's a good mix for terrible form. We'll probably pick just enough points to stay out of really serious bother, but I can also easily see this run continuing for a few more weeks and then who knows what might happen from there.

    Other than that, I make AFKA right. In some ways KR is the perfect manager for a mob like them.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    edited February 2017
    so far as I know, Rowett G is still without a club to manage, he was Curbishley's blue eyed boy .. Please Lord L have a word with GR to apply for our vacancy .. I write 'vacancy' 'cos I am sticking pins in my Robinson voodoo doll in the hope he'll talk himself into a catatonic trance and have to resign .. I don't wish him dead ...

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,033
    Lincsaddick said:

    so far as I know, Rowett G is still without a club to manage, he was Curbishley's blue eyed boy .. Please Lord L have a word with GR to apply for our vacancy .. I write 'vacancy' 'cos I am sticking pins in my Robinson voodoo doll in the hope he'll talk himself into a catatonic trance and have to resign .. I don't wish him dead ...

    Gary Rowett has proved himself in the championship, why the hell would he come to a basket case club in the bottom half of league one?
  • mogodonman
    mogodonman Posts: 237
    We have enough to stay up this season but I am starting to fear for next season. The squad looks an average one for this division but with a policy of selling anyone half decent and not replacing them adequately, I can see us struggling next season regardless of who is the puppet of the month out in charge. The only way things can now change is with a change at the top.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    so far as I know, Rowett G is still without a club to manage, he was Curbishley's blue eyed boy .. Please Lord L have a word with GR to apply for our vacancy .. I write 'vacancy' 'cos I am sticking pins in my Robinson voodoo doll in the hope he'll talk himself into a catatonic trance and have to resign .. I don't wish him dead ...

    Gary Rowett has proved himself in the championship, why the hell would he come to a basket case club in the bottom half of league one?
    cos all managers like to manage .. and we are STILL a club with enormous potential
  • E=mc2
    E=mc2 Posts: 311
    I make AFKA right. In some ways KR is the perfect manager for a mob like them.

    Don't kid yourselves.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    AFKABartram said:

    -He is happy to take 'Mr President's' spy on his staff

    - He's a public face that loves to chat and get in the media, happily taking the flak and demand away from regime Roland and Katrien

    - He's happy to follow the party line, talk up youngsters, sign up to the philosophy of producing and selling on at profit

    - They won't pay out again at a time of the year that they want to cut their costs and we are not going down

    - They and their apologists can effectively write off the last three months of the season and excuse underperformance by talking once again about 'summer rebuilds' 'allowing him to build his squad' 'fresh promises of change' etc

    From their perspective that would be the sensible approach. However with the protest coming up, and Roland not reacting well to embarrassment, I really think Robinson will be sacked soon.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,661
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    so far as I know, Rowett G is still without a club to manage, he was Curbishley's blue eyed boy .. Please Lord L have a word with GR to apply for our vacancy .. I write 'vacancy' 'cos I am sticking pins in my Robinson voodoo doll in the hope he'll talk himself into a catatonic trance and have to resign .. I don't wish him dead ...

    Gary Rowett has proved himself in the championship, why the hell would he come to a basket case club in the bottom half of league one?
    No decent manager will come here, as they won't be allowed to eh... manage.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,033
    Lincsaddick said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    so far as I know, Rowett G is still without a club to manage, he was Curbishley's blue eyed boy .. Please Lord L have a word with GR to apply for our vacancy .. I write 'vacancy' 'cos I am sticking pins in my Robinson voodoo doll in the hope he'll talk himself into a catatonic trance and have to resign .. I don't wish him dead ...

    Gary Rowett has proved himself in the championship, why the hell would he come to a basket case club in the bottom half of league one?
    cos all managers like to manage .. and we are STILL a club with enormous potential
    Not with our current owners we're not.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Do you think he's lost the dressing room?
    He grates our gears as fans at times, imagine having to put up with his hyperbole day in, day out?
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,649
    DA9 said:

    Do you think he's lost the dressing room?
    He grates our gears as fans at times, imagine having to put up with his hyperbole day in, day out?

    If he had the dressing room in the first place. His managerial record would hardly have had the players in awe of him.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    edited February 2017
    DA9 said:

    Do you think he's lost the dressing room?
    He grates our gears as fans at times, imagine having to put up with his hyperbole day in, day out?

    I don't think he ever 'fully had' the players on his side .. as has been noted, after the Bradford game (where we got a very deserved point) , the team looked far from enamoured with his ham acting and show boating towards the fans .. I'm old school. managers should be neither seen nor heard... we go to watch the players not a has been in a whistle and tie or a fucking track suit

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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,661
    DA9 said:

    Do you think he's lost the dressing room?
    He grates our gears as fans at times, imagine having to put up with his hyperbole day in, day out?



    Looks like someone has had enough of him.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,833
    DA9 said:

    Do you think he's lost the dressing room?
    He grates our gears as fans at times, imagine having to put up with his hyperbole day in, day out?

    I think so, yes. Players can see through it.

    No doubt we will need to clear all these players out and start again...
  • Addickted2U
    Addickted2U Posts: 3,080
    We bought arguably the best attacker from last season and loaned him back to the club he came from. Scores 2 today.
    Another loan flop we had - McAleny - scores another 3 today having stuffed us last Tuesday.
    There is something majorly rotten in our club, and our manager has become Charltonised faster than I expected.
    Depressing times, and you're right that they won't get rid now.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,828
    Surely the penny has to drop with the divs owning and running the club that the way they run the club is not working.

    How anyone can still have faith that they will turn it around is beyond me. Will be another few months of "lessons learned, rebuild in the summer, bear with us" bullocks for the umpteenth season running.

    They are not capable of running a successful football club at Charlton and each season continue to prove the polar opposite.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,707
    guinnessaddick said:

    DA9 said:

    Do you think he's lost the dressing room?
    He grates our gears as fans at times, imagine having to put up with his hyperbole day in, day out?



    Looks like someone has had enough of him.
    Thats just Watt being Watt the cheeky scamp
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    guinnessaddick said:

    DA9 said:

    Do you think he's lost the dressing room?
    He grates our gears as fans at times, imagine having to put up with his hyperbole day in, day out?



    Looks like someone has had enough of him.
    To be fair that probably says more about Watt than FarleyRobinson
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,289
    There would be no point in sacking him anyway. Give him the summer and see what we can do. There is still a lot of deadwood at the club that needs to be cut off.
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,860
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    Surely the penny has to drop with the divs owning and running the club that the way they run the club is not working.

    How anyone can still have faith that they will turn it around is beyond me. Will be another few months of "lessons learned, rebuild in the summer, bear with us" bullocks for the umpteenth season running.

    They are not capable of running a successful football club at Charlton and each season continue to prove the polar opposite.

    I think they will see that in their eyes it is working for them. The reasons? Gomez, Lookman and Fox from the recent past and Konsa and Aribo in the near future.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    edited February 2017
    Roland doesn't do failure and he doesn't do logic.

    All the reasons given make sense but that's no something that will worry Roland.

    If Duchatelet fancies a change there will be a change.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,828
    sam3110 said:

    There would be no point in sacking him anyway. Give him the summer and see what we can do. There is still a lot of deadwood at the club that needs to be cut off.

    Duchatelet and Meire for starters

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