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Press Day Today - Thursday 2nd March, 2017

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  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,350

    stonemuse said:
    Katie & Roland will not be looking at your list Karl, they will have an alternative.
    The list probably came from belgium in the first place. Didn't Slade say that he was "offered" players & "had the right to reject them" I wouldn't imagine it's any different for gobby.
  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293
    Do you honestly think the players sat down and produced a PP? I don't believe that for a second. More wanky waffle.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,736
    Bless him, preparing for the summer. As if he'll still be here then.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,431

    Do you honestly think the players sat down and produced a PP? I don't believe that for a second. More wanky waffle.

    Maybe they stumbled upon Iain Dowie's old 'Advancing the Addicks' PowerPoint.
  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,465
    Well, Saturdays performance should do the talking and will point the way for the rest of the season. Lets hope it is positive.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,016
    cafc-west said:

    Don't think we can blame him for not getting more players in. Suspect he had a few targets. Think that's all down to the president(!) not wanting to re-invest and taking the profits to offset against his "investment".

    Undoubtedly true. No surprise at all that we didn't reinvest any of the Lookman (or Fox) money in the team - we didn't reinvest any of the money we got for JBG, Pope or Cousins either.

    However, either Karl has been lied to, or he's part of/complicit in the lie. I think it's the latter.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,515
    Remember the rumour that KR was only getting 400k of the £8m to spend?

    Some tried to rubbish it on here and claim it was £4m but I think we can say it was closer to the former than the latter.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,544
    stonemuse said:
    I know he's taking a lot of stick for this, but I kind of like it. The term "presentation" does make it sound like it's powerpoint, and thus a bit Brent, but we don't know what form that presentation took.

    Oh, maybe it was ballet, I'd quite like that. Or interpretive dance. Imagine a handful or players starting off as little seedlings, then bursting forth quickly to represent the early chance, only to slow wither over time, come into full bloom just before half time when taking the lead, then slowly begin a process of wilting, decaying, and dying as the match came to a close.

    What? Sorry about that, got distracted.

    Back to my serious point. I like the idea of the players saying "this is what we did wrong and this is how we'll fix it." I think it helps both a communal sense of ownership, and also, it's said (and I have no idea if it's true) that being able to "teach" something is the highest form of comprehension.

    What it doesn't do, as is pointed out above, is absolve Robinson his responsibility in results of late. I think that he is a better manager than what we've seen (not a world beater, mind), but he has to take responsibility for the fact that the team have looked completely disjointed at times. Sometimes in attack, sometimes in defense. And for the fact that we concede goals from either a long punt, a set piece, or a fast counter attack consistently.

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Its simpler than that Mr L, Karl "gobshite" Tarbuck talks bollocks.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,733

    stonemuse said:
    "walked through?" Maybe if some of the lazy ********* in our squad could be encouraged to run it might help.
    They were running actually.

    Some are so slow though it looks like walking.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    cabbles said:

    I'll be honest, I don't think he knows what he's doing now, or what he's saying anymore.

    He's trapped between the incompetence and shit of answering to the powers that be, managing the morale of an average squad of players, and trying to say what we want to hear.

    It's all one big pile of dog doo

    I make you bang on the money there cabbs, he is not clever enough to deal with it all in compartments, his little brain is meshing it all together and telling his mouth to talk. When his lips part what comes out is................bollocks!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,328
    I don't want to defend Robinson and I certainly don't want to defend the regime, but isn't there a risk of overanalysing every little thing he says?
  • BowieAddick
    BowieAddick Posts: 1,192
    Stig said:

    I don't want to defend Robinson and I certainly don't want to defend the regime, but isn't there a risk of overanalysing every little thing he says?

    There is a lot to analyse to be fair, I don't think he has stopped talking since he got here :)
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,434
    Stig said:

    I don't want to defend Robinson and I certainly don't want to defend the regime, but isn't there a risk of overanalysing every little thing he says?

    When he has a record of 3 from 15 League games then that will always be the case.

    Win games, and the overanalysing would be minimal.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Stig said:

    I don't want to defend Robinson and I certainly don't want to defend the regime, but isn't there a risk of overanalysing every little thing he says?

    I am 60 this year Stig, I wont live long enough to analyse all what KR says :smile:

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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,309

    cabbles said:

    I'll be honest, I don't think he knows what he's doing now, or what he's saying anymore.

    He's trapped between the incompetence and shit of answering to the powers that be, managing the morale of an average squad of players, and trying to say what we want to hear.

    It's all one big pile of dog doo

    I make you bang on the money there cabbs, he is not clever enough to deal with it all in compartments, his little brain is meshing it all together and telling his mouth to talk. When his lips part what comes out is................bollocks!
    To be fair to him, there is too much above and beyond even Alex Ferguson's skills given the mess we're in.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,112
    stonemuse said:
    He's gone from slagging them off on Tuesday to getting them to tell him where it went wrong.

    Just imagine the brief - tell me three things that went well, three things that didn't go so well, and three things you can improve on.

    It's not their annual f**king appraisal. He's the coach - he's paid to tell them where they went wrong and how they put it right - rather than admitting he hasn't got the faintest idea and wants them to tell him.

    Beyond parody.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,807
    DavidKarl: Under "Strengths"... you've just put "football."
    KeithRoger: Yeah.
    DavidKarl: That's your job though, that's, that's just—
    KeithRoger: —Mmm. [nods]
    DavidKarl: No, KeithRoger. What. I was sort of looking for your skills within your job. So is there anything else you could have put there?
    KeithRoger: [shrugs]
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,350
    SDAddick said:

    stonemuse said:
    I know he's taking a lot of stick for this, but I kind of like it. The term "presentation" does make it sound like it's powerpoint, and thus a bit Brent, but we don't know what form that presentation took.

    Oh, maybe it was ballet, I'd quite like that. Or interpretive dance. Imagine a handful or players starting off as little seedlings, then bursting forth quickly to represent the early chance, only to slow wither over time, come into full bloom just before half time when taking the lead, then slowly begin a process of wilting, decaying, and dying as the match came to a close.

    What? Sorry about that, got distracted.

    Back to my serious point. I like the idea of the players saying "this is what we did wrong and this is how we'll fix it." I think it helps both a communal sense of ownership, and also, it's said (and I have no idea if it's true) that being able to "teach" something is the highest form of comprehension.

    What it doesn't do, as is pointed out above, is absolve Robinson his responsibility in results of late. I think that he is a better manager than what we've seen (not a world beater, mind), but he has to take responsibility for the fact that the team have looked completely disjointed at times. Sometimes in attack, sometimes in defense. And for the fact that we concede goals from either a long punt, a set piece, or a fast counter attack consistently.
    I imagine it's just gobbys way of saying that they had a team meeting where players offered their views. "They delivered a presentation" is just bollox talk, Thanks Karl normal service is resumed.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,972
    What a load of old cock.
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,342
    edited March 2017
    "I didn't get carried away with things when I first walked in [to the club]"

    Yes you did, Karl
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,713

    Do you honestly think the players sat down and produced a PP? I don't believe that for a second. More wanky waffle.

    more than likely the senior players have been to see him and told him a few home truths about his management style.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,665
    He needs stop prattling on about the players he's no longer got,the players he missed out on, the players that don't give a shit...Yada Yada.

    The time has come for him to prove himself as a coach. He took this on knowing full well what he was getting himself into.

    Put up or shut up & F*** off!
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,342
    I find it a complete pisstake that Robinson keeps talking as though this season is a lost cause, and that he just needs to get the remaining games out of the way before he can completely rebuild the squad.

    What am I, as a fan and season ticket holder, supposed to do with that information? Go and watch games where the results are largely pointless, featuring a set of players that won't be here next season? It feels a complete waste of time to me, and I suspect the squad feel the same.

    Cheers Robbo, you complete prat.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,544
    Stig said:

    I don't want to defend Robinson and I certainly don't want to defend the regime, but isn't there a risk of overanalysing every little thing he says?

    Mate, didn't you get the memo? We hate him, therefore everything he says is dumb and Scouse.
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