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Robinson's last 76 games as a manager...

newyorkaddick
newyorkaddick Posts: 3,057
in General Charlton
....have produced 70 points!

P76 W16 D22 L38 GD -37

No wonder he looks so dejected.

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Relegation form.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,489
    Results secondary according to Tarbuck now

    It's about playing the kids, it seems.

    Seems the rest of the division will have to wait a little longer for that Charlton charge Karl mentioned.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,326
    The kids we have waiting in the wings are probably not a bunch of Lookman standard 'pro's in waiting'. Throw them into the upcoming relegation battle and we may cut short a couple of youngstees careers while nosediving into league two. 'Throw the youngsters in' is a great soundbite, but 99% of the time, it won't work. You need a mix.
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,402
    Very impressive.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,777
    Blimey that's some stats, wonder if there's a manager currently working with worse..... 21% win rate and .92 points a game. He'd best hope Roly's laptop kid doesn't run a model...
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,783
    Remarkable when you think of everything that has gone on here over the past 18 months that Robinson's side were below us for the duration.

    All of that discontent, the fact we were managed my Karel Fraeye, Naby Sarr, Roger Johnson, Ba, Williams etc etc and they were still below us?

    Crazy stuff.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,901
    No wonder he gave it the bigun to us fans after the odd win, must've seemed like he'd just won the lottery.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,304
    Addickted2TheReds said:

    Remarkable when you think of everything that has gone on here over the past 18 months that Robinson's side were below us for the duration.

    All of that discontent, the fact we were managed my Karel Fraeye, Naby Sarr, Roger Johnson, Ba, Williams etc etc and they were still below us?

    Crazy stuff.

    Even more remarkable is that we seemed to have hired the man managing a team who have been performing even worst than us during that time.

    Roland's Charlton, Roland's Charlton

    KM probably took one look at that record and thought, yes, you'll fit in well
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,467
    But every time we have improved our ranking.

    Haven't we?
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,096
    That is some record. That has to be the worst record of a current League Manager ?!

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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,465
    That, I'm afraid, is the calibre of manager we are going to attract:

    Riga - now manager of Cercle Brugge in the Belgian 2nd tier who are 5th of 8 teams in that League.
    Peeters - currently unemployed following sacking from Westerlo last year.
    Luzon - now manager of Maccabi Haifa who are 7th in Israel.
    Fraeye - currently unemployed after being sacked as head coach of Lommel United last October.
    Slade - current manager of Coventry, bottom of League 1 and arguably even more of a basket case of a Club. With just 8 wins from 36 with us and Coventry, he will, possibly, have the distinction of managing two sides relegated in the same season from the same division.
    Robinson - as stated by NYA just 16 wins from his last 76 games.

    It says it all that not one of those managers is coaching (if employed at all) at a level higher than he was when with us.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,096
    AddickFC81 said:

    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.

    Just 76 unlucky games then ?
    Poor refs ?
    A plethora of deadwood ?
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,365
    The older side picked on Tuesday didn't work, so why not put one or two more kids in.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,489
    Redhenry said:

    The older side picked on Tuesday didn't work, so why not put one or two more kids in.

    I am surprised Dijksteel hasn't at least been on the bench.

    It's a risk but after being talked up, getting a new contract and travelling with the team he's not featured again.

    Yes there is a risk of burn out as we've seen, perhaps, with Aribo and Konsa but who else is there?
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,990
    Henry Irving said:

    Redhenry said:

    The older side picked on Tuesday didn't work, so why not put one or two more kids in.

    I am surprised Dijksteel hasn't at least been on the bench.

    It's a risk but after being talked up, getting a new contract and travelling with the team he's not featured again.

    Yes there is a risk of burn out as we've seen, perhaps, with Aribo and Konsa but who else is there?
    Robinson's vocal cords..??
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539
    alan dugdale said:

    AddickFC81 said:

    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.

    Just 76 unlucky games then ?
    Poor refs ?
    A plethora of deadwood ?
    No, but up to 2015 he'd been pretty decent, and in May 2015 MK Dons were promoted. Not much money was spent and his MK Dons team were a team of upper League One quality when they were in the Championship, and they were relegated.

    He has undoubtedly struggled in the last 6 months or so with teams that should be doing far better than they have been (MKD then us), but I agree with Addick81, you don't just become an awful manager overnight.
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,057
    edited March 2017
    In the 2014/15 season he had the benefit of Dele Alli (clearly the outstanding player in L1 that season) as well as two key loan strikers (Grigg and Afobe) - between them, these three scored 47 goals.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,678
    I had no idea it was that bad. It makes grim reading.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    edited March 2017
    Looks about par for the course for the type of manager willing to work under our owners. You are either going to get records like this or the mercenaries who only come here for three months then the pay off.

    I suppose there is a third option and that is a foreign manager who shares the same ideas as RD & KM with no English football experience.

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  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,630
    SDAddick said:

    alan dugdale said:

    AddickFC81 said:

    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.

    Just 76 unlucky games then ?
    Poor refs ?
    A plethora of deadwood ?
    No, but up to 2015 he'd been pretty decent, and in May 2015 MK Dons were promoted. Not much money was spent and his MK Dons team were a team of upper League One quality when they were in the Championship, and they were relegated.

    He has undoubtedly struggled in the last 6 months or so with teams that should be doing far better than they have been (MKD then us), but I agree with Addick81, you don't just become an awful manager overnight.
    How about a season and a half, though?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited March 2017
    AddickFC81 said:

    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.

    You do when it comes to taking the charlton job.
  • Jayajosh
    Jayajosh Posts: 2,884
    Rob7Lee said:

    Blimey that's some stats, wonder if there's a manager currently working with worse..... 21% win rate and .92 points a game.

    Don't worry Pinnochio and RD will be looking for a CV right now.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited March 2017
    It just strengthens Meires comment that every year we make progress.....
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,304
    Henry Irving said:

    Redhenry said:

    The older side picked on Tuesday didn't work, so why not put one or two more kids in.

    I am surprised Dijksteel hasn't at least been on the bench.

    It's a risk but after being talked up, getting a new contract and travelling with the team he's not featured again.

    Yes there is a risk of burn out as we've seen, perhaps, with Aribo and Konsa but who else is there?
    He may well be doing that on Sat, but this what I hate about the regime. If we lose on Sat, whoever is in that team will get pelters. We keep putting in young players who are at a very fragile stage in their career into this cauldron of anger given the situation. it will damage some permanently
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,096
    SDAddick said:

    alan dugdale said:

    AddickFC81 said:

    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.

    Just 76 unlucky games then ?
    Poor refs ?
    A plethora of deadwood ?
    No, but up to 2015 he'd been pretty decent, and in May 2015 MK Dons were promoted. Not much money was spent and his MK Dons team were a team of upper League One quality when they were in the Championship, and they were relegated.

    He has undoubtedly struggled in the last 6 months or so with teams that should be doing far better than they have been (MKD then us), but I agree with Addick81, you don't just become an awful manager overnight.
    Dowie did. Phil Brown did. I'm sure there are others. Paul Jewell ?
    There are some, Dowie is an example, where one good season, maybe 2, are followed by a long period of failure, sometimes ending in managerial oblivion.
  • milo
    milo Posts: 389
    SDAddick said:

    alan dugdale said:

    AddickFC81 said:

    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.

    Just 76 unlucky games then ?
    Poor refs ?
    A plethora of deadwood ?
    No, but up to 2015 he'd been pretty decent, and in May 2015 MK Dons were promoted. Not much money was spent and his MK Dons team were a team of upper League One quality when they were in the Championship, and they were relegated.

    He has undoubtedly struggled in the last 6 months or so with teams that should be doing far better than they have been (MKD then us), but I agree with Addick81, you don't just become an awful manager overnight.

    Perhaps he has always been awful and his 'success' is more to do with Dele Ali than his ability as a football manager
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,341
    The old saying - 'You're only as good as your last 76 games'
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,452
    newyorkaddick said:

    ....have produced 70 points!

    P76 W16 D22 L38 GD -37

    No wonder he looks so dejected.

    That's what we pay Daisy the big bucks for.

    Congratulations Daisy on your unerring ability to spot a "Diamond in the rough"
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,092
    SDAddick said:

    alan dugdale said:

    AddickFC81 said:

    He did wonders until May 2015 but youdon't just become a bad manager.

    Just 76 unlucky games then ?
    Poor refs ?
    A plethora of deadwood ?
    No, but up to 2015 he'd been pretty decent, and in May 2015 MK Dons were promoted. Not much money was spent and his MK Dons team were a team of upper League One quality when they were in the Championship, and they were relegated.

    He has undoubtedly struggled in the last 6 months or so with teams that should be doing far better than they have been (MKD then us), but I agree with Addick81, you don't just become an awful manager overnight.
    The question should be when does he become a good manager?

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