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#Unity Protest 4th March - Accounts from those there

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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,173

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    Roland's view of what success is for his own, home town club summed up in one picture...money from advertising, no fans.

    Seeing that pic scares me , I was in the ground for the first half (was asleep most of it) and I don't recall that stand .
    Belgian beer is sooooo dangerous .
  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,827
    Posting late so just about everything has been said. Glad almost every one came away with good feelings.

    Drove out Friday afternoon with The President and Forest hill red and his superb creation - the effigy ' Roland '
    Every time I looked in the rear view mirror had a freaky/disturbing view of insanely grinning 'Roland' sitting in a rear seat.

    While forest Hill red kipped in the back seat next to Roland ( had been awake all but two hours of the night working on his 'creation' ).
    The President and myself were in fits of giggles over 'Roland'.

    The main effort of Saturday went into the 2per cent's set up & rehearsal.
    Trying to get information on the march route and start time from the police.

    We had very serious concerns, already posted by Alwaysneil who was in contact with the authorities.
    As already posted the police only agreed the march start could be at Vim's very late on.

    We only had permission for a 6pm start at around 4pm. So the idea to have the gig/buffet at Vim's central location turned out to be hugely
    important in getting the march started from the central district - Vim's

    All week i had been unhappy with the original route of the march allowed by Authority's. So I contemplated a unilateral sit down demonstration
    in the Grote Markt. After all as a pensioner i have nothing to lose? Had second thoughts when it was realized how silly i would look
    in a sit down demo of one!

    Happily the march was a great success - people waving from windows, the friendly police woman on her bicycle.

    Having seen the Belgium police work at close quarters with the demands of our march i'm very impressed with their behavior under pressure.
    Of course they were dealing with 'pussy cats' and not 'rampaging English supporters invading their country'.

    Hopefully we can obtain a statement from the St Truiden police of our good behavior.

    Most of all a big thanks to all supporters - both Charlton and STVV for the brilliant peaceful unity march. Oh much respect to German Addict Mark who drove
    through the night, over 200 kms i understand to support us. See you at the valley next week Mark!

    Will the demo make him sell? Who knows, but he should understand we are never going away, we will keep chipping away until the edifice falls.

    This has been a day to remember, my only regret is not enough free time to meet & introduce fellow lifers.
  • foresthillred
    foresthillred Posts: 1,436
    Stig said:

    ...We seemed to have so much media coverage - there were interviews,cameras,photographers everywhere. certainly, Roly the Effigy seemed to be the most popular for the media there - and magnificent he was - for that @foresthillred , who spent so many long hours working on it , take a bow, son.Also, @GermanAddick who helped with the construction. Even, at one stage, when we had to make running repairs after his leg had fallen off, and his ear had come loose, one fan decided to drop his trousers and stick it in Rolys face :) - yes, you know who you are :)

    I this the incident?

    Duchatelet OUT (1 of 1)-5
    No! That's me trying to fix one of the bits that fell off Roland. I think the incident in question happened moments after though.
  • foresthillred
    foresthillred Posts: 1,436
    RedPanda said:

    Some thoughts...

    The organisation yesterday was top notch all day. Hundreds of man hours would have gone into that, all involved are Charlton heroes far beyond all our players (one or two excepted).

    I was disappointed by the lack of STVV fans joining us. Theyre historically a lower league team so I think a lot are still grateful for that.

    I still can't get over the darkened concourses with disco lights and crap music, all through the game. That house dj in Crossbars may not have solely been Meire's idea.

    I had fun joining the Belgian 20 during and after the game, although hazy running on the pitch to sing "we want Roland out" is something I'll remember.

    The Roland effigy was also a highlight, I should have taken one of his banknotes as a souvenir (one side included the names of Thuram, Reza etc, the other Yann, Morrison and so on).

    Belgian beer is lethal.

    PM me your address and I will send you one Red.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448


    PWR - just back in SE18

    So proud.

    A few tasty bits from a great weekend ....

    1 - watched the magnificent banner of @sethplum attract a feeding frenzy from Belgian media

    2 - the ST bobbies in plain clothes who supervised the march at the rear. I congratulated them on how well everything had been organised on all sides. Very soberly one replied, "Today is because you all love your club so much". He could see it in an instant - certain others it takes more than three years and they still don't get it.

    3 - after the march we were on the coach to await return to our hotel. It was rather quiet after the day's excitement. I remarked "it's all so civilised, so ...., so ...., lost for words until my neighbour completed the sentence - "so Charlton".

    4 - visit today to Ypres and especially to the grave of Gunner Nightingale

    5 - not quite so tasty. @HantsAddick and I were the last away from the last coach (at SE7) when after an entirely trouble-free weekend for us all (I hope) I had a minor accident. As we crossed Anchor & Hope Lane to await HA's cab on the other side, I stumbled on the central reservation (who put that thing there?) and went flat on my fat face, half hanging in the other carriageway and thanks to my Parkinson's unable to move. A driver pulled up to ask if I needed help, but before he could do anything a second car stopped, a big black guy called Darren stepped out and then took over. Firstly, with the assistance of Simon the coach driver I was helped to my feet. Then, Darren first took me home to Woolwich, leaving me some food he had just bought for himself, and afterwards took HA back to her flat in SE7. She rang me to say she had left her bag in his car, and sure enough 10 minutes later Darren turned up at my door with the bag. What an absolute saint !! (I have a few grazes and bruises - nothing to worry about.) Sorry for the diversion, but a hefty conclusion to a memorable weekend. I have spent the last two days with many quite remarkable people, not least the last one of all ....

    Great story about Darren, and a lovely post. Hope you get better from your fall soon.
    Your language skills are invaluable, Weegie couldn't be with us so we needed you, Roland Duchatelet calls us stupid people yet at least three protestors have Doctorates.
  • cherryorchard
    cherryorchard Posts: 1,722
    It's all been said really. Met up for the first time with fellow WAR ladies and travellers at Ebbsfleet and everything great from then on!
    We had a superb banner and for a lot of the time we were physically at the front of the march. Quite unnerving having cameras virtually in your face. It was encouraging to see the local residents watching from their apartments and a lot of thumbs up from them.
    Chanting and singing fantastic. We were a good mix of ages from the very young upwards.
    By the end of the march, as the rain continued coming down, we got the coach back to Hasselt and joined others at the Hotel Bar. I was a bit of a lightweight, getting up at 3.45 had caught up with me (that's my excuse anyway) but others were up to the small hours.
    After a fortifying breakfast we then made out way to Ypres and on to the R E Farm cemetery to pay our respects to Gunner Nobby Nightingale who made the ultimate sacrifice over a 100 years ago.

    Then we made our way back to England and I arrived back home before 10 pm.

    Have we made a difference - time will tell. What I do know is that the weekend was a big success measured by meeting other like-minded fans for the first time, interacting with each other and generally just being a large group of decent human beings doing our bit for our club.

    Thanks again to the organisers.




  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    edited March 2017
    On a professional level, it was great to see the banners we produced look so good. Seth's came out really nice, the North Korean flags worked well as did the main banner and the just sell our club banner whilst the simplicity of the WAR banner was pleasing but I wasn't disapointed in any of them. Would be great to see some of them at the Valley.

    I was proud of my fellow Charlton fans. We certainly showed that you can make your point with humour, dignity and respect. I would like to thank the people of St Truiden for their welcoming approach. I'm sure that when this horror ownership is over, there will be a continued link between the two clubs, through freindship, not ownership.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    @foresthillred

    That business in the concourse below the stand. Could not agree more. Guys I was with were all so cold and knackered that we decided we would stay down there for a while. We got beer and hot dogs but never even realised ST had gone two up until we sat down near a monitor. The bloody music had drowned at the "roar" of the crowd.

    As you say, Roland's nightmare vision.

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  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,694
    sitting bleary eyed at work, I've already been told I was spotted on ITV news last night by a Charlton-supporting colleague and another saw the back of my head on the Daily Mail website.
    Fame (of sorts).
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743

    Stig said:

    ...We seemed to have so much media coverage - there were interviews,cameras,photographers everywhere. certainly, Roly the Effigy seemed to be the most popular for the media there - and magnificent he was - for that @foresthillred , who spent so many long hours working on it , take a bow, son.Also, @GermanAddick who helped with the construction. Even, at one stage, when we had to make running repairs after his leg had fallen off, and his ear had come loose, one fan decided to drop his trousers and stick it in Rolys face :) - yes, you know who you are :)

    I this the incident?

    Duchatelet OUT (1 of 1)-5
    No! That's me trying to fix one of the bits that fell off Roland. I think the incident in question happened moments after though.
    Think we needed another bloke covering up the bloke covering up!
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469


    PWR - just back in SE18

    So proud.

    A few tasty bits from a great weekend ....

    1 - watched the magnificent banner of @sethplum attract a feeding frenzy from Belgian media

    2 - the ST bobbies in plain clothes who supervised the march at the rear. I congratulated them on how well everything had been organised on all sides. Very soberly one replied, "Today is because you all love your club so much". He could see it in an instant - certain others it takes more than three years and they still don't get it.

    3 - after the march we were on the coach to await return to our hotel. It was rather quiet after the day's excitement. I remarked "it's all so civilised, so ...., so ...., lost for words until my neighbour completed the sentence - "so Charlton".

    4 - visit today to Ypres and especially to the grave of Gunner Nightingale

    5 - not quite so tasty. @HantsAddick and I were the last away from the last coach (at SE7) when after an entirely trouble-free weekend for us all (I hope) I had a minor accident. As we crossed Anchor & Hope Lane to await HA's cab on the other side, I stumbled on the central reservation (who put that thing there?) and went flat on my fat face, half hanging in the other carriageway and thanks to my Parkinson's unable to move. A driver pulled up to ask if I needed help, but before he could do anything a second car stopped, a big black guy called Darren stepped out and then took over. Firstly, with the assistance of Simon the coach driver I was helped to my feet. Then, Darren first took me home to Woolwich, leaving me some food he had just bought for himself, and afterwards took HA back to her flat in SE7. She rang me to say she had left her bag in his car, and sure enough 10 minutes later Darren turned up at my door with the bag. What an absolute saint !! (I have a few grazes and bruises - nothing to worry about.) Sorry for the diversion, but a hefty conclusion to a memorable weekend. I have spent the last two days with many quite remarkable people, not least the last one of all ....

    Hope you are over your fall now and how lovely to hear about Darren what a gentleman
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,596
    Most has been said, but just wanted to say thanks to everyone (especially those who worked so hard in the B20) who made such an effort to get everything right. I know what has gone on behind the scenes and it's been incredible. Also ditto with the CARD guys, I'm sure.

    Although I suffered horribly yesterday, the whole day was fantastic, from the band to the demo itself but mostly the camaraderie of fans. A nice wide-range of people, all for a common cause. One regret is that I'm sure I met a few off here (some maybe even been 'conversing' with since NetAddicks in the days before this forum) but no idea what their 'handles' were. Great that the guys at the front of the march encouraged the singing throughout the march.

    Loved the speech at the buffet before the last song of the band by @Mametz. The final line was very passionate, something like "let's get this bastard to f**k off out of our club" followed by a loud impromptu version of VFR - quite moving.

    As has been discussed many times, the *ONLY* good thing that has come out of this Megalomaniac freak ruining our club is that some great friendships have been formed, this and the general camaraderie made it a day to remember. Well done everybody. I hope local news this evening shows the correct slant, not this "protesting about recent results" bullshit obviously peddled by the clubs' PR firm. I saw quite a few fans interviewed by both British and Belgian reporters. I chipped in on one when a local reporter was questioning @Addictedoldgit - the guy seemed very interested, but you never quite know what the spin will be.

    Finally, someone handed me a commemorative mug in a box during the march while I was waving one of the North Korea flags - maybe @MuttleyCAFC ? The day's a bit of a blur, can't remember what you said now, but cheers v much for that!

    A few pictures...
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    Yes, it was me. Handed out mugs to people waving banners we made and to some of the locals.
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,596

    Yes, it was me. Handed out mugs to people waving banners we made and to some of the locals.

    Thanks again.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    Yes, it was me. Handed out mugs to people waving banners we made and to some of the locals.

    Indeed, I have one proudly in my kitchen, and Muttley, you are a top bloke.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Still want to see the photos of the mooning over the RD models head.

    I blame the parents.

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  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214
    edited March 2017
    We left London late and dashed to Folkestone to catch the 10:50 shuttle. Made it just on time. Quick trip through the tunnel and off on the E40. As we were running late we hammered it a bit even though the rain was heavy. Hopefully there won't be a fines from France or Belgium arriving over the next two weeks.

    After a couple of Satnav blips got to St Truiden and parked by the station. Started strolling to Wims bar and met a bunch of lifers just leaving the bar opposite the station. Walking through the town it struck me that it was very quiet. Perhaps the locals were expecting a riot from hoards of English hoolies?

    Got to the bar. Found the weakest beer to drink as I had to drive home later, kreik cherry beer, 3.5%!

    The rest had been well documented, great gig by the 2%, plenty of food in the buffet, lots of catching up with other lifers, and an orderly march to the stadium.

    Things that struck me about the day was the support from the local in St Truiden. Applause through the course of the march from some, quizzical looks from others. Organisers did a good job passing out leaflets in Flemish explaining what it was all about. The stadium was totally non-descript. It didn't look anything like a football stadium, more like a retail park or a business centre. If this is really Roly's vision for football he can stick it up his effigy!

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    Driving home we passed the ghelamco arena in Gent which was lit up for their home game against Bruges and thinking "this is more the idea Roland, not your half hearted attempt in St Truiden"

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    Long day but no worse that a Newcastle away game. It felt good to be there. Keep the pressure up C.A.R.D..
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    It is a retail park, business centre and hotel with a plastic picth in the middle.
  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214

    It is a retail park, business centre and hotel with a plastic pitch in the middle.

    :)

    True, and it really looks like it. As I said, he can stick that vision up his effigy. Charlton are worth more than that.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,041

    ...Never built an effigy before. Thanks to Alwaysneil for prompting me to make a start a week before the protest, never would have happened otherwise. As it was, at 10.30pm on Thursday, it was still in pieces and without a face. By 4.30am on Friday my creation was complete and sitting on the sofa in my living room. At 7am it scared the shit out of my kids when they woke up for school...

    Your effigy was one of the highlights for me - absolutely magnificent. I hope you've kept him for further activities. Or better still, what a good exhibit he would make in the museum, once we get a change of owner.
  • Mametz
    Mametz Posts: 1,258

    Thanks to all guys who organised this spectacular day!
    Great location!
    Great food and drinks!
    Great music!
    And the most important thing...
    Great performance of all !!!

    Bad reason to come over,
    but I'm happy to make new friendships!

    I honored to be a part in Truiden Sint.

    The German Addicks come over next weekend against Walsall and Bradford.
    Hope to see you all again !

    Thanks to all guys who organised this spectacular day!
    Great location!
    Great food and drinks!
    Great music!
    And the most important thing...
    Great performance of all !!!

    Bad reason to come over,
    but I'm happy to make new friendships!

    I honored to be a part in Truiden Sint.

    The German Addicks come over next weekend against Walsall and Bradford.
    Hope to see you all again !

    It was great to meet you on Saturday and thanks for helping with the effigy.

    Come to the Rose of Denmark before the game on Saturday and have a beer or two.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    I think @The_President may have already suggested a venue....
  • Bow_Addick
    Bow_Addick Posts: 528
    I Know that it has been said a lot already but the organisation and planning was top notch, so just wanted to add my thanks to those who clearly put many hours into making the weekend as smooth as possible for us protestors!

    Met 3 lots of STVV fans throughout the night, the second lot very generous when it came to getting the beers in, they left for the game but ensured our Jupliers were replelinshed before doing so, very nice fellas. The general consensus from all STVV fans we encountered was that they understand our woes but are very much resigned to Roland’s ownership themselves.

    The march was great, can’t really add anymore to what has already been posted above.
    Got back to the hotel and there were still plenty of Charlton fans drinking at the bar.

    I think we will see more in the media about our efforts in ST over the coming week.
  • Arrived in ST Friday afternoon, along with other members of The 2Percent. Our first priority a beer or two to unwind from the journey and then, and a little later to unload sound equipment and instruments in readiness for the Saturday’s proceedings.

    At 6.30 pm the band met with local journalist, Raf Vanmechelen for photos on the Grote Markt, after which we went to Nieuwscafe where Vanmechelen interviewed me briefly about the protests.

    He started by telling me that he’d met with Duchatelet earlier that day, and when asked for his thoughts on the coming protests, Duchatelet made it clear that CAFC fans have the right to protest. However, he followed this by saying that the on-going protests are the reason the team are not performing, - also why Chris Wilder refused to join last summer. In refuting these assertions I told him I believe the reason Wilder chose not to join was because the club refused to give written assurances regarding player recruitment and non-interference in team selection. I went on to point out there is no clear evidence the protests have negatively influenced results, - and a number of players have even suggested in-game protests have improved the atmosphere, and spurred the team on.

    I wasn’t really happy with the direction of the interview and more so when he asked whether CAFC fans would be attending the STVV v Eupen game, would there be protests in the stadium and if so, what protest would there be? I couldn’t comment and so the interview ended. I was later told by a member of GrAS that this journalist is very pro Duchatelet, - which might offer some interesting context regarding the direction in which he steered things.

    Friday night was spent distributing leaflets around town to rally support for the Unity Protest and inviting local people to come along and join in. This was followed by a few more cleansing ales before bedtime.

    Saturday morning was spent helping in preparations for the buffet and then running a sound check with the band. Gradually the venue started to fill up and by the time those from the coaches arrived we were raring to go. Gig was great fun, and despite Charlton’s inevitable defeat at Northampton, by the time the protest got underway, everyone seemed to be in quite high spirits.

    By the time I got myself sorted after the gig, the march was out of sight, so unfortunately I caught up only towards the end. Nevertheless it was great to see so many journalists there filming, interviewing, taking photos and a good crowd of protesters, including STVV fans.

    I had a ticket to the match so went through the police cordon to enjoy a few pre-match beers in De Kanarie, before making my way to Staaien to watch the game. Good to see Igor notch another goal for STVV, but also worrying to see him carried off later on.

    After-match was spent in the Revue, where Duchatelet usually satisfies his post-match dancing fetish. However, on this occasion he probably got wind of the 40 or so black ants eagerly waiting to dance with him, and decided to stay in his shed.

    On realising that Duchatelet wasn’t in a dancing mood, 20 or so of the black ants decided to make their presence felt by getting on the plastic pitch for a photo opportunity, before singing “just sell the club” and “we want roland out”, - that was until security arrived.

    And so, with no sign of Duchatelet we decided t head back to the hotel for pizza and a few more beers, only stopping briefly to chat to Prague, who was heading the opposite direction.

    In Belgium of course the beer never disappoints, but for the carnivores in our group, the pizza order left some feeling bereft. You see, the order included three pepperoni pizzas, but instead, it was three peppers-only pizzas that were delivered. How we laughed.

    A great weekend was had, - very well organised and attracting a whole load of media coverage. I’m sure Duchatelet is completely hacked off with us all and he should know that, if need be, I think we are perfectly prepared do it all again, only bigger and louder next time.