Dale Stephens
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I agree they both did, and I think Buyens was actually quiet underrated by a lot of Charlton fans - however neither were the creative force in the middle of the park that Stephens was.killerandflash said:
Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with usFishCostaFortune said:We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.
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I liked Buyens, thought Poyet was effective but overrated by many here (now he's been found out...). As for Dale, from his very first game back in L1 he made a difference, liked him from the startFishCostaFortune said:
I agree they both did, and I think Buyens was actually quiet underrated by a lot of Charlton fans - however neither were the creative force in the middle of the park that Stephens was.killerandflash said:
Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with usFishCostaFortune said:We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.
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Cant believe Rhys Williams didn't make it5
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I bet he is pleased now...0
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I think it's fair to say that Dale is now much happier playing his football up north.7
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Spot on. What a core to the team we could've had with those two, Morrison and Kermorgant. But Roland knew best.ForeverAddickted said:
Dale came good because Jordan Cousins made his debut...killerandflash said:
Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with usFishCostaFortune said:We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.
Those two alongside each other meant that Dale could just concentrate on creating play4 -
Not sure you can blame RD for the Dale Stephens departure, if a player has 6 months left on his contract and isn't going to sign another, then you either lose them for nothing or sell them in January and get a fee. That one is down to the money running out for TJ and MSThe Red Robin said:
Spot on. What a core to the team we could've had with those two, Morrison and Kermorgant. But Roland knew best.ForeverAddickted said:
Dale came good because Jordan Cousins made his debut...killerandflash said:
Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with usFishCostaFortune said:We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.
Those two alongside each other meant that Dale could just concentrate on creating play2 -
Completely forgot about him. Jesus.LargeAddick said:Cant believe Rhys Williams didn't make it
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More of a general point on all of them.killerandflash said:
Not sure you can blame RD for the Dale Stephens departure, if a player has 6 months left on his contract and isn't going to sign another, then you either lose them for nothing or sell them in January and get a fee. That one is down to the money running out for TJ and MSThe Red Robin said:
Spot on. What a core to the team we could've had with those two, Morrison and Kermorgant. But Roland knew best.ForeverAddickted said:
Dale came good because Jordan Cousins made his debut...killerandflash said:
Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with usFishCostaFortune said:We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.
Those two alongside each other meant that Dale could just concentrate on creating play0 - Sponsored links:
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I would have thought all the MKD, Rotherham and Bristol City players would have voted for him, for his contribution to our relegation campaign...LargeAddick said:Cant believe Rhys Williams didn't make it
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Roland knows best.Callumcafc said:Dale Stephens has been rated, by the managers, as the 6th best player in the division this season.
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Francis always got forward well and was / is a very good crosser of the ball. My only criticism at the time was that he got caught up field a lot and then struggled to get back. Good luck to him, Bournemouth fans love him.drewman said:
Or maybe some Charlton fans just didn't recognise his talent?wmcf123 said:Simon Francis is now a premier league defender, so anything is possible
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Agree about Buyens. Would love to know how many assists Stephens made for usFishCostaFortune said:
I agree they both did, and I think Buyens was actually quiet underrated by a lot of Charlton fans - however neither were the creative force in the middle of the park that Stephens was.killerandflash said:
Poyet (first time round) and Buyens both did a good job in a similar role to Dale. Indeed Dale only came good in his final season with usFishCostaFortune said:We have never really replaced Stephens, Kermogrant and to some extent Morrison since they all left.
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Yes but he now plays as a Centre back so his defending really can't be that bad..The Red Robin said:
Francis always got forward well and was / is a very good crosser of the ball. My only criticism at the time was that he got caught up field a lot and then struggled to get back. Good luck to him, Bournemouth fans love him.drewman said:
Or maybe some Charlton fans just didn't recognise his talent?wmcf123 said:Simon Francis is now a premier league defender, so anything is possible
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No Charlton players in the list?0
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Thinking of Dale Stephens makes me think of what could have been and I'm very sad.5
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Dale Stephens certainly controlled the tempo of the game today and he may be one of the Brighton players who could cut it in the Premier League if they make it this season. He and Jordan Cousins were a very fine combination and the best we have had in recent years. Since he left, we have lacked a high quality creator in midfield and this has been an ongoing problem for the team over the last two and a half seasons.
There must be someone out there in the lower leagues with this sort of potential for whom Charlton would be a big step up (just as it was for Stephens when he joined from Oldham). Unfortunately, however, we have neither the scouting and recruitment system to identify such players, nor the appetite or credibility to get deals over the line.0 -
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To be fair he got slated by most on here. My mates included. I put this this down to them sitting in the Covered End and me in the East Stand. Different perspective etc.1
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About £5m worth of wages as a minimum.
I wonder if that has cured his homesickness ?1 -
Glad to see he is enjoying life better since he moved back up north.0
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I never really rated him that much....but I guess others might have.
All I can say is he must have improved immensely to be voted the 6th best player of the season in The Championship......good luck to him I suppose.0 -
Did we get any money for Brighton getting promotion?0
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Always liked him. Very talented and could pick a pass. Was in the Millennium lounge last year when we played them as he was injured. Seemed a nice guy. All the best to him.3
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he's a good midfielder .. not as good as but from a similar mould to Michael Carrick4
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I put it down to us going every week and watching him play :-)EastTerrace said:To be fair he got slated by most on here. My mates included. I put this this down to them sitting in the Covered End and me in the East Stand. Different perspective etc.
PS He did improve immensely towards the end of his Charlton career ie the last season of 2.5 seasons and he's continued to improve since he left us.3 -
He was only 21 when he joined us. In 11/12 it was clear he had the potential to make the step up while for some of our CMs it wasn't the case. He had ups and downs and the team was largely struggling for the 2 years he played in the championship. But he improved and clearly had ability.Covered End said:
I put it down to us going every week and watching him play :-)EastTerrace said:To be fair he got slated by most on here. My mates included. I put this this down to them sitting in the Covered End and me in the East Stand. Different perspective etc.
PS He did improve immensely towards the end of his Charlton career ie the last season of 2.5 seasons and he's continued to improve since he left us.6 -
Good luck to the guy, just shows what I know, I thought he is to slow although good on the ball, still he would say I'm an old soak so hope he does really well.0