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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 584
    What do you think dickplumb
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    What's happening is the club have learnt from their mistakes and are now building a team able to challenge for the top six in league one, hopefully, but if they don't it doesn't matter as we just all need to stop protesting and get behind the team and give them until the season after next.
    dickplumb said:

    I would say something is definitely happening too.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    FAVADDICK said:

    Rob7Lee said:

    Henry Irving said:

    I can see why this makes people feel uneasy about how recruitment is managed given the regimes appalling track record and the spin from Meire about "our first choice in this position" (why is the CEO telling us this not the manager?).

    But it's one comment from a player. Tarbuck has seen him play at least twice this season v MK Dons and us and most likely other times live and on TV.

    I think you under estimate this Henry, especially the history of the past few years of an unhappy and divided dressing room.

    I'd never employ someone without meeting them, they may have a great CV and I may have seen them in action but I want to know how the will fit in with the other characters in the department, will there be major clashes, will they and A N Other just not get on etc etc.

    I smell a rat here, either Robinson just doesn't really give a hoot (I don't believe that), is incompetent (I don't believe that either) or something else is at play.

    By the way has Jacko and Bowyer been officially announced yet? I heard about Bowyer probably a month ago now in that he'd been offered the assistant managers job....... remember Robinsons rather strange interview at the end of the season??.........
    Something is definitely happening behind the scenes just don't know what ?

    There may be trouble ahead...
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    edited June 2017
    All these something is happening comments, are they hopefull conjecture or based on any rumour? I have had the hope crushed out of me by this regime.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    ElfsborgAddick said:

    FAVADDICK said:

    Rob7Lee said:

    Henry Irving said:

    I can see why this makes people feel uneasy about how recruitment is managed given the regimes appalling track record and the spin from Meire about "our first choice in this position" (why is the CEO telling us this not the manager?).

    But it's one comment from a player. Tarbuck has seen him play at least twice this season v MK Dons and us and most likely other times live and on TV.

    I think you under estimate this Henry, especially the history of the past few years of an unhappy and divided dressing room.

    I'd never employ someone without meeting them, they may have a great CV and I may have seen them in action but I want to know how the will fit in with the other characters in the department, will there be major clashes, will they and A N Other just not get on etc etc.

    I smell a rat here, either Robinson just doesn't really give a hoot (I don't believe that), is incompetent (I don't believe that either) or something else is at play.

    By the way has Jacko and Bowyer been officially announced yet? I heard about Bowyer probably a month ago now in that he'd been offered the assistant managers job....... remember Robinsons rather strange interview at the end of the season??.........
    Something is definitely happening behind the scenes just don't know what ?

    There may be trouble ahead...
    Can't get much worse
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    cfgs said:

    All these something is happening comments, are they hopefull conjecture or based on any rumour? I have had the hope crushed out of me by this regime.

    Well 24th May KR talked about Bowyer being on holiday and announcement being made when he was back.

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24629/charlton-boss-not-ready-yet-confirm-lee-bowyer-appointment/

    On the other hand why would we be signing a player if something was happening?
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,738
    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    All these something is happening comments, are they hopefull conjecture or based on any rumour? I have had the hope crushed out of me by this regime.

    Well 24th May KR talked about Bowyer being on holiday and announcement being made when he was back.

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24629/charlton-boss-not-ready-yet-confirm-lee-bowyer-appointment/

    On the other hand why would we be signing a player if something was happening?
    To keep up the pretence that all is tickety boo & we're on schedule for automatic promotion back to the Championship...

    Oh, and they're DESPERATE to to sell another season ticket or two !
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    Just to clarify what I meant by something was happening, I have no inside information, and I didn't mean sale of the club.

    All I meant was Robinson gave a really odd interview at the end of the season, you could read much into it but I read it as he wasn't sure of his own position. Whether thats just me, whether he meant he wasn't sure in himself or whether it meant he felt his days were numbered I have no idea. But odd it was especially considering how previous interviews, it was a dramatic change of tone.

    Add that to the Bowyer and Jackson points something isn't quite adding up. Jackson was sort of 'announced' before the end of the season but we were to hear next week officially, tenth next week...... that was over 6 weeks ago and we are still waiting.

    Bowyer himself said he was being made Assistant manager/coach whatever the title was, that itself was 3-4 weeks ago, again silence from the club.

    We've now just made our first signing of the season and he's not met the manager and only briefly spoke to him on the phone, that to me doesn't sound like how Robinson or 99% of managers would work.

    Look at the official website news section since the end of the season........ 1st team, management, coaching....... zero news until our first signing.

    Or of course it could just be normal CAFC service where we will limp to the start of the season with an inadequate squad and back room staff, I don't know, but i'm suspicious, maybe no need to be, but I am as there seems to be a number of indicators here......
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    Saw the advert in Freeads myself ' Good money paid for No.10' Billy was first off the mark and deserves the chance, Welcome to the club Billy, very fast
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,426
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    Feckin hell !

    I REALLY hope something is happening behind the scenes !

    @Fanny Fanackapan that comment really tickled me haha
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  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Just been told by my Fleetwood mate that Ball has rejected a new deal with them.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    So who will last longer...Robinson or Theresa May?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,622
    I'll grant you that the lack of activity regarding Jackson and Bowyer and only one signing arriving despite the razzmatazz of doing business early is odd but I'm not sure I buy into anything much of interest to us going on behind the scenes. I think we can rule out a sale at this point so what else of significance could it be ?

    My guess is that it's just a repeat of previous years when penny pinching and incompetence in getting deals done and bravado by the club in doing so are being realised.

    Add to the general poor club/fan communications and I think we have the answer. It's odd. But everything the club does is odd.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Players are in for fitness tests, management are back from holidays. I think things will ramp up this week - not just for us but in general
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    Swisdom said:

    Players are in for fitness tests, management are back from holidays. I think things will ramp up this week - not for us but in general

    Edited for you.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,823
    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    Pedro45 said:

    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?

    You can announce them at any time, look at Solanke at Liverpool for instance
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    If you go by the rules on Football Manager, you can officially talk to them 1 month before their contract expires which would mean you could sign them end of May onwards.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    Pedro45 said:

    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?

    Please pass me whatever you are snorting, inhaling,smoking and injecting...
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835


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  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,823
    sam3110 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?

    You can announce them at any time, look at Solanke at Liverpool for instance
    You can, with agreement, but often they are not. And I doubt very much that we will or could sign any or all of the above - it's just that these are players who "could" be announced on 1st July under such an arrangement..
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    Pedro45 said:

    sam3110 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?

    You can announce them at any time, look at Solanke at Liverpool for instance
    You can, with agreement, but often they are not. And I doubt very much that we will or could sign any or all of the above - it's just that these are players who "could" be announced on 1st July under such an arrangement..
    There's no way in hell we'd be holding out until the 1st to announce signings, and why would the team the player in question is leaving care when it's announced? They'll already have announced what players are leaving at the end of their contracts. We'll sign 2 players this week IMO, and both will be underwhelming names to some, and will get slagged off by a few before kicking a ball in anger
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Pedro45 said:

    sam3110 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?

    You can announce them at any time, look at Solanke at Liverpool for instance
    You can, with agreement, but often they are not. And I doubt very much that we will or could sign any or all of the above - it's just that these are players who "could" be announced on 1st July under such an arrangement..
    that makes no sense, surely you would announce as soon as they had signed? As far as I'm aware you don't need the agreement of their current club as they are signing a contract dated 01 July and their old contract expires on 30 June.

  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Swisdom said:

    Players are in for fitness tests, management are back from holidays. I think things will ramp up this week - not just for us but in general

    What like selling anybody half decent and ending up with a worse squad than last year.

  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,275
    our turnover will contract again. Our fixed overheads will remain the same. Money is actually being spent on the training ground. No "savings" from players sold or released (wages). A repeated statement that we will not make losses on the scale of last seasons again. Things may 'ramp up' but not to a point of having a squad capable of promotion (unless the statement on repeating losses is a lie to try to keep other clubs expectations on what we will pay in check - possible but I think, unlikely).
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    dickplumb said:



    We may well regret him leaving as looked a very good prospect; but we are knee deep at centre half at the moment. Good luck to him and wish him well.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    sam3110 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    sam3110 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?

    You can announce them at any time, look at Solanke at Liverpool for instance
    You can, with agreement, but often they are not. And I doubt very much that we will or could sign any or all of the above - it's just that these are players who "could" be announced on 1st July under such an arrangement..
    There's no way in hell we'd be holding out until the 1st to announce signings, and why would the team the player in question is leaving care when it's announced? They'll already have announced what players are leaving at the end of their contracts. We'll sign 2 players this week IMO, and both will be underwhelming names to some, and will get slagged off by a few before kicking a ball in anger
    Maybe because they have season tickets of their own to sell.

    Let's face it Holmes is probably going to leave but all the while he is still our player we can continue to leak stories about offering him a new deal and believing that he will sign it.

    I haven't looked but I suspect that MK Dons are still trying to get their fans to believe that Reeves might stay with them.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    kings hill addick said:

    sam3110 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    sam3110 said:

    Pedro45 said:

    Of course, we may well have "signed" some players, but cannot announce them until their contracts expire and they can sign on a Bosman. Marshall, Reeves, Ball, and others could all come under this category?

    You can announce them at any time, look at Solanke at Liverpool for instance
    You can, with agreement, but often they are not. And I doubt very much that we will or could sign any or all of the above - it's just that these are players who "could" be announced on 1st July under such an arrangement..
    There's no way in hell we'd be holding out until the 1st to announce signings, and why would the team the player in question is leaving care when it's announced? They'll already have announced what players are leaving at the end of their contracts. We'll sign 2 players this week IMO, and both will be underwhelming names to some, and will get slagged off by a few before kicking a ball in anger
    Maybe because they have season tickets of their own to sell.

    Let's face it Holmes is probably going to leave but all the while he is still our player we can continue to leak stories about offering him a new deal and believing that he will sign it.

    I haven't looked but I suspect that MK Dons are still trying to get their fans to believe that Reeves might stay with them.
    difference is though that Holmes is in contract

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    Swisdom said:

    Players are in for fitness tests, management are back from holidays. I think things will ramp up this week - not just for us but in general

    Ever the optimist.

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