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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    edited June 2017
    http://www.castrust.org/2017/06/karl-never-been-so-excited/

    Version of fans forum meeting with Robinson


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    JamesSeed said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    JamesSeed said:


    Sage said:

    Have heard through a couple of things that Reeves could well be signed by this week Wednesday. Don't shoot me down if it doesn't happen, just passing on info.

    Does his signing mean Holmes is off?
    Why would it? Reeves is a number 10 and Holmes is a winger.
    My sense is that our Dear Owner does not care about offensive formations and thus simply will look at the situation and say... "I can claim we upgraded the offense." He did that exact thing last year when he unloaded two of our best players and replaced them with Ajose. I fear it will be the same kind of logic. "I brought in someone and thus can sell someone else for a profit."

    Maybe I am wrong. But it seems to me RD makes transfer moves with two things in mind... 1. Make a profit. 2. Be able to claim I brought in talent.

    Signing Reeves allows him to sell Holmes and do both.
    Reeves is a free agent in 5 days time so won't cost RD anything but wages, which he may now have after shipping Igor off to Belgium.

    Robinson had said he wants 2 players in every position, Reeves and Clarke would be the 2 10's, Holmes, Marshall, Fosu, and i would assume Cellabos are the 4 wingers.

    If we get an offer in the 1mil region for a 30 year old we paid about 200k for a year ago then Holmes will be gone, and i don't blame the club selling him for that money really.

    I think even RD can see everything he has done till now has been a massive failure so maybe he is going to let Robinson do it his way this summer and see where we are come January.
    Jeez, 1mil, and say goodbye to promotion chances?! By far our best player last year (exc including over Lookman). No way should a club with a rich owner be allowed to get away with selling him for lousy million.
    Expect renewed protests if he's sold. I'll for one be on the picket line!
    Edited for you. He was better than Ade for me. Ade was close but stilll raw, Holmes is a bit more cultured and knew how to do the things Ade will learn, such as winding up defenders to force fouls etc.

    Ade will be ten times better at Holmes' age but Holmes just had more in his locker than a very young Ademola.
    Yup I'd agree with Holmes v. Lookman, but that's not really the issue. The point is selling Holmes would send out a terrible signal (not for the first time) and would reinforce views that they have no ambition for the club.
    Exactly.

    You cannot hope to progress by selling your best players.

    Instead of buying and developing the squad, we continually sell and replace. But of course the football is secondary to the Belgians.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    "we need ANOTHER 6 or 7 more" - only 1 week before the tour on Ireland so get a bl***y move on then !!!
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    edited June 2017
    Some (probably) dodgy twitter page posted in the last hour Holmes to Blades for £700k
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Valley11 said:

    Some (probably) dodgy twitter page posted in the last hour Holmes to Blades for £700k

    Took a look it's junk I agree.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993

    http://www.castrust.org/2017/06/karl-never-been-so-excited/

    Version of fans forum meeting with Robinson

    Good article. KR wants 6/7 more and Holmes is not for sale.

    KR says there is no choice other than promotion, when last week he didn't want to mention promotion.

    Anyway, we all know he continually contradicts himself, so I'll try and roll with it, unless it's really important, which this contradiction isn't.
  • 6 or 7 more? LOL!

    The man is seriously deluded.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    The money was there to win the league last season but we got mediocre players.
    Hmm, I wonder who he's referring to, and how they feel about being called mediocre by their manager!

    But quite an optimistic interview, nevertheless
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330

    6 or 7 more? LOL!

    The man is seriously deluded.

    But when was the interview? The article is dated 28th June but this may not be the date the interview took place.

    If it is current, my take would be the 3 he mentioned before and therefore 3 - 4 to leave and be replaced.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Redrobo said:

    6 or 7 more? LOL!

    The man is seriously deluded.

    But when was the interview? The article is dated 28th June but this may not be the date the interview took place.

    If it is current, my take would be the 3 he mentioned before and therefore 3 - 4 to leave and be replaced.
    Fans forum meeting was on 23 June
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993

    Redrobo said:

    6 or 7 more? LOL!

    The man is seriously deluded.

    But when was the interview? The article is dated 28th June but this may not be the date the interview took place.

    If it is current, my take would be the 3 he mentioned before and therefore 3 - 4 to leave and be replaced.
    Fans forum meeting was on 23 June
    So the interview was after our 3 signings.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Holmes not for sale because he's sold.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Dazzler21 said:

    Holmes not for sale because he's sold.

    ?

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221

    Redrobo said:

    6 or 7 more? LOL!

    The man is seriously deluded.

    But when was the interview? The article is dated 28th June but this may not be the date the interview took place.

    If it is current, my take would be the 3 he mentioned before and therefore 3 - 4 to leave and be replaced.
    Fans forum meeting was on 23 June
    So the interview was after our 3 signings.
    Yes but I've heard different feedback from the same meeting.

    Will check if able to share.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    No minutes on the OS yet.....
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    If Robinson was not such a suck-up, I would interpret his enthusiasm as meaning...

    1. Even more good players coming in
    2. Holmes staying

    But because his word is so suspect, can't allow myself to be hopeful.
  • Holmes is worth way more than a million to us as a player. Letting him go now would be demonstrative that they still haven't learnt a thing about transfer dealings and would erode any positivity gained from what has been a good start to the window.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344

    Dazzler21 said:

    Holmes not for sale because he's sold.

    ?

    See CE post earlier up the page.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881

    Dazzler21 said:

    If Holmes wants to leave then the last thing we want is another uncommitted player. Take the 1.2 million on offer and bid for Maddison. Swiftly soften the loss of Holmes considerably.

    I think you're being Harsh on Holmes, I think he's too proud to put in a bad performance, instead I think he'd work harder to force a move.
    I think you've got a point but if we are going to lose Holmes in a year anyway and we could sign up say Maddison on a three/four year contract then in the long run could be a better deal. A big if though!
    Why not both :wink: ?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Maddison will not be joining us, he hasn't requested to leave Peterborough to join us.

    Furthermore, I understand a bit has been put in by Sunderland to take him back up there.
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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Sage said:

    Have heard through a couple of things that Reeves could well be signed by this week Wednesday. Don't shoot me down if it doesn't happen, just passing on info.

    Okay so it hasn't happened by today, which is a shame (cue shots being fired at me) but I am hoping by the end of the week. Just got to hear back on things but it is close, that I am sure.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited June 2017
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  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,689
    vff said:
    Mmm,wonder if it's true and its being kept quiet until we maybe sign Reeves,good news\bad news
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    vff said:
    Just before everybody starts freaking out this is written about the one rumour made by a joke of a 'transfer site.' As of yet no credible source is reporting Holmes to Sheffield Utd as even close.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    He is out of contract therefore we have been able to do this since January. Why oh why is it still dragging?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764

    vff said:
    Mmm,wonder if it's true and its being kept quiet until we maybe sign Reeves,good news\bad news
    More commonly known as a sh*t sandwich. :-)
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Swisdom said:

    He is out of contract therefore we have been able to do this since January. Why oh why is it still dragging?

    If Football Manager has taught me anything, it is that you can only negotiate a contract with a domestic player within a month of their contract expiring.
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    I reckon Holmes gone by end of weekend
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Maddison's agent says he only wants to go to the Championship. So we ain't getting him.

    Time to move on.
  • OhEddieYouds
    OhEddieYouds Posts: 744
    edited June 2017
    I expect Harry Forrester is more likely to be the realistic replacement that's lined up in case Holmes leaves (instead of Maddison).

    Hopefully the club reach an agreement with Holmes and we don't need to look elsewhere.

    What happens will show us whether the board have really learnt from their mistakes or whether they are still stupid enough to sell their best player in the form of their career for a few hundred thousand (i.e. Yann) even though they know a sum like that will buy us v.little in terms of a replacement.