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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    Is there an outside chance of a rumour on this thread anytime soon?

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Today, July 3rd.

    All the out of contract players are now free agents.
    Must be some proper rumours and stories?


    Any news, RedHenry?

    ;o)

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    _nam11 said:

    Rob Elliot displaced Weaver in 2008, aged 22. Thought he was decent. Amazing what happens if you show some faith in others.

    He had good (or perhaps better) competition in Randolph. Both had a decent amount of experience out on loan. If Phillips gets injured we'll be left with u23 keepers without any first team experience at any level.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Keepers should compete for the position. Phillips and an experienced player like Martin to fight it out sounds ideal, with Phillips having first dibs in my opinion.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Don't forget that in this instance Robinson will already know a lot about Martin from his time at MK. I agree that the jersey should be up for grabs but I suspect Martin will already be number one in KR's mind.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-transfer-news-fixtures-13271592

    Reads like a wind-up but it's a rumour

    "Belgian teenager Largie Ramazani has joined Manchester United on a scholarship contract from League One side Charlton Athletic.

    Ramazani, 16, was born in Burundi but supposedly began his youth career in Anderlecht's academy before he moved to Charlton to continue his development."
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,867

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-transfer-news-fixtures-13271592

    Reads like a wind-up but it's a rumour

    "Belgian teenager Largie Ramazani has joined Manchester United on a scholarship contract from League One side Charlton Athletic.

    Ramazani, 16, was born in Burundi but supposedly began his youth career in Anderlecht's academy before he moved to Charlton to continue his development."


    Looks like it's the truth, it's come from a Belgian journalist.
  • Bit tired of all the bollocks about Phillips not being old enough - if he's good enough he should be playing. Rudd looked no better than Phillips when he played and we don't seem likely to be signing an outstanding keeper.

    AC Milan have stuck an 18 year old in goal whereas Charlton fans in the mighty L1 seem to think putting a 22 year old in goal is the biggest risk of all time. Phillips looks to me more than capable of playing in L1 and will only get better with experience.

    Goalkeeper is the least of our problems...
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Adios Largie, we hardly knew ye. Actually we didn't know ye. In fact, putting that on the rumours thread is quite annoying, because otherwise we'd have been completely oblivious to Man U poaching one of our kids
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    edited July 2017
    I can confirm that Largie Addicki is set to sign for Man City ;-))
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited July 2017

    Bit tired of all the bollocks about Phillips not being old enough - if he's good enough he should be playing. Rudd looked no better than Phillips when he played and we don't seem likely to be signing an outstanding keeper.

    AC Milan have stuck an 18 year old in goal whereas Charlton fans in the mighty L1 seem to think putting a 22 year old in goal is the biggest risk of all time. Phillips looks to me more than capable of playing in L1 and will only get better with experience.

    Goalkeeper is the least of our problems...

    Spot on. Anybody would think we were about to start season with Thuram a blind bloke with no hands in goal.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Not much transfer stuff will be going while they're in Ireland, I would imagine.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619

    Not much transfer stuff will be going while they're in Ireland, I would imagine.

    I hope you're wrong. We need to get the players we need in this week so they get a decent pre season.

    I'm sure there will be a late addition or two but on the whole we need this week to be the big week.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628

    I can confirm that Largie Addicki is set to sign for Man City ;-))

    .....and just when we need a goalkeeper.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

    Bit tired of all the bollocks about Phillips not being old enough - if he's good enough he should be playing. Rudd looked no better than Phillips when he played and we don't seem likely to be signing an outstanding keeper.

    AC Milan have stuck an 18 year old in goal whereas Charlton fans in the mighty L1 seem to think putting a 22 year old in goal is the biggest risk of all time. Phillips looks to me more than capable of playing in L1 and will only get better with experience.

    Goalkeeper is the least of our problems...

    Even if Phillips starts the season as first choice he still needs genuine competition.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    A club needs three keepers in a season. It only takes an injury as Rudd got last season and you are down to one keeper with no back up. Phillips is young and there is loads of time, a keeper doesn't peak in game until late 20's and will learn a lot off of the experienced keepers in training.

    so you think we should sign 2 keepers and have Phillips as 3rd choice?
    If you read the quote, if a keeper gets injured Phillips can slot straight in as number two, there is also the opportunity for him to play in cup matches as well as learn from experienced keepers, we have let two keepers go since last season so we clearly need to replace them both
    Yes I did read it. You said we need 3 keepers, and Phillips should learn from the experienced keepers (plural) meaning you want 2 experienced keepers in and Phillips as 3rd choice. I would agree this could be ok if Phillips went out on loan, but no league 1 team is going to have the quality of Phillips as a 3rd choice.

    Yes we did let 2 go, and we certainly need to replace Rudd, hence the interest in Martin/Lindegaard etc. But we don't need to replace Mitov with an experienced keeper, Beeney has now replaced Mitov as the 3rd choice/U23 keeper.
    So you would rely on Beeney to step in rather than sign an experienced keeper. It has been a very clear objective from the start of pre season, two players to compete for each position, with promotion the number one objective.
    Experience is key in this league in which is a long and tough one, if a keeper loses form we need one to come and replace as well as keep him on his toes.
    Have you read anything I put? Where did I say I wanted Phillips and Beeney to be our two keepers? I disagreed with you that we needed two experienced keepers with Phillips as 3rd choice. Some will say Phillips should be number 1, I am not sure, but certainly not 3rd choice.

    Beeney will play for the U23's and be 3rd choice, but we certainly need to replace Rudd with competition for Phillips, and I wouldnt mind signing a first choice and a back up, allowing Phillips to get a season in League 2.

    Yes you are quite right, 2 players to compete for each position, not 3...
    I fully understand what you have written. You wish to have two youngsters as second and third choice. Philips needs to learn his trade before being thrust into the number 1 slot. As stated earlier a keeper will not peak in his career until late 20's however you want to put two keepers as back up who have played a handful of games and a loan at a Cheltenham.
    Look, under this lot we have never really had a squad. If we have two players for each position, I would be over the moon.

    Phillips got decent reviews when he played last season and I'm fine with him being one of the two keepers yes.

    No not all keepers peak late 20's.

    You keep going on about 2 back ups but that's contradictory as you said about 2 players per position now saying 3rd choices need to be decent too. Let's not get greedy, remember who owns us and what league we are in.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-transfer-news-fixtures-13271592

    Reads like a wind-up but it's a rumour

    "Belgian teenager Largie Ramazani has joined Manchester United on a scholarship contract from League One side Charlton Athletic.

    Ramazani, 16, was born in Burundi but supposedly began his youth career in Anderlecht's academy before he moved to Charlton to continue his development."


    Looks like it's the truth, it's come from a Belgian journalist.
    All seems to come from this one tweet. Not hard to take a pic of a kid with a Man utd shirt but no one else.

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,265
    Why is he holding up last years shirt, when they released their new home kit today, and they released their new away kit some time ago
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2017
    Fuller pic, looks like some proper press with proper cameras in the reflection before the conspiracy theories start.

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Signing a contract sitting next to Andy Cole.

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 2017
    Isnt that a few blokes holding their Smartphones as cameras? - The shadow above the flowers is holding nothing more than a Smartphone whilst what looks like his Mum and Brother (?) are the other shadows.

    Edit: Second picture proves my theory completely wrong lol!
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    Think this is where the departures start. Strongly believe we will lose Homes now , gutted.
  • Red7Oak
    Red7Oak Posts: 498
    cabbles said:

    I don't think he's whined

    My rationale is that in the few games I saw of him, he looked commanding and solid. We've managed to bring through some decent talent recently, he looked calm and composed

    He had a solid season with Cheltenham the one before last

    Obviously KR knows better and if he's got Martin on trial perhaps he's not ready

    I would like to see him being given a run

    Agree with this apart from this 'Obviously KR knows better' :smile:
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    Don't worry with KR in Ireland we have the SMT to arrange the transfers

    Oh!
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Laddick01 said:

    Think this is where the departures start. Strongly believe we will lose Homes now , gutted.

    Because Man Utd have signed a 16 year old nobody has heard of?

    "And the award for overstatement of the day goes to................"

  • Red7Oak said:

    cabbles said:

    I don't think he's whined

    My rationale is that in the few games I saw of him, he looked commanding and solid. We've managed to bring through some decent talent recently, he looked calm and composed

    He had a solid season with Cheltenham the one before last

    Obviously KR knows better and if he's got Martin on trial perhaps he's not ready

    I would like to see him being given a run

    Agree with this apart from this 'Obviously KR knows better' :smile:
    I have absolutely no faith in KR based on what I've seen - I think he just likes signing his ex players.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Swisdom said:

    Laddick01 said:

    Think this is where the departures start. Strongly believe we will lose Homes now , gutted.

    Because Man Utd have signed a 16 year old nobody has heard of?

    "And the award for overstatement of the day goes to................"

    I think that might have been a... Whoosh!!
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Red7Oak said:

    cabbles said:

    I don't think he's whined

    My rationale is that in the few games I saw of him, he looked commanding and solid. We've managed to bring through some decent talent recently, he looked calm and composed

    He had a solid season with Cheltenham the one before last

    Obviously KR knows better and if he's got Martin on trial perhaps he's not ready

    I would like to see him being given a run

    Agree with this apart from this 'Obviously KR knows better' :smile:
    I have absolutely no faith in KR based on what I've seen - I think he just likes signing his ex players.
    When did Marshall fosu or Clarke play under him?