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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    we're going to be playing 4231, I can't see Robbo changing his stance on that. Even if we had Higuain and Lewandoski, one of them would be benched.

    I'm sure you're right.

    In which case what on earth is the point of having Magennis, Watt, Novak, Ahearne-Grant, Ajose, Kennedy, Hanlan and Umerah on the books when only one of them will be called on to start?
    I suspect Hanlan and Umerah are not considered part of the first team squad, nor Kennedy, can see him leaving permanently. That leaves 5 and I think Robbo would want 3, maybe 4 of them, would not be surprised if any of them bar Magennis leave.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Did Reeves go with MK to Hungary ?

    Very pleased about Holmes.

    Pretty sure he didn't, no. Bolton and Sheffield United want him I think though.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Fortune 82nd Minute said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    we're going to be playing 4231, I can't see Robbo changing his stance on that. Even if we had Higuain and Lewandoski, one of them would be benched.

    I'm sure you're right.

    In which case what on earth is the point of having Magennis, Watt, Novak, Ahearne-Grant, Ajose, Kennedy, Hanlan and Umerah on the books when only one of them will be called on to start?
    I suspect Hanlan and Umerah are not considered part of the first team squad, nor Kennedy, can see him leaving permanently. That leaves 5 and I think Robbo would want 3, maybe 4 of them, would not be surprised if any of them bar Magennis leave.
    Bowyer talked about KAG in that interview, so he seems to well up the pecking order
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    killerandflash said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    Fortune 82nd Minute said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    we're going to be playing 4231, I can't see Robbo changing his stance on that. Even if we had Higuain and Lewandoski, one of them would be benched.

    I'm sure you're right.

    In which case what on earth is the point of having Magennis, Watt, Novak, Ahearne-Grant, Ajose, Kennedy, Hanlan and Umerah on the books when only one of them will be called on to start?
    I suspect Hanlan and Umerah are not considered part of the first team squad, nor Kennedy, can see him leaving permanently. That leaves 5 and I think Robbo would want 3, maybe 4 of them, would not be surprised if any of them bar Magennis leave.
    Bowyer talked about KAG in that interview, so he seems to well up the pecking order
    I'd hope he wouldn't be better than 4th choice this season.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    we're going to be playing 4231, I can't see Robbo changing his stance on that. Even if we had Higuain and Lewandoski, one of them would be benched.

    I'm sure you're right.

    In which case what on earth is the point of having Magennis, Watt, Novak, Ahearne-Grant, Ajose, Kennedy, Hanlan and Umerah on the books when only one of them will be called on to start?
    The problem is that only Magennis can play the lone role although Watt did a decent job despite not having the physicality. Novac and Ajose are 4-4-2 strikers and the kids don't have the experience to make an impact alone. Igor would have been the ideal alternative.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Did Reeves go with MK to Hungary ?

    Very pleased about Holmes.

    From what i've read he didn't go as he's not contracted to them any more.

    He's now unemployed and although i'm pretty sure he won't need to be visiting the local food bank any time soon, surely now that clubs are back in pre season he'll be keen to sign for someone soon and get back training.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,310
    LargeAddick said:

    Did they ask Holmes if he knew what we are protesting about? This has really wound me up. It's fuck all to do with him and in three years time at most he won't be around. Stick to football Ricky.

    Totally agree, stick to what you know lad.
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    edited July 2017
    I think his main point, was being together as a unit. Don't think he meant to dig at protestors. Just hoping we went up as a unit. Well that's how I perceived it.
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Did Reeves go with MK to Hungary ?

    Very pleased about Holmes.

    From what i've read he didn't go as he's not contracted to them any more.

    He's now unemployed and although i'm pretty sure he won't need to be visiting the local food bank any time soon, surely now that clubs are back in pre season he'll be keen to sign for someone soon and get back training.
    Out of contract footballers are paid for July.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
  • luke1
    luke1 Posts: 203
    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    2% ?

  • jamesking93
    jamesking93 Posts: 289
    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    in what way?
  • luke1
    luke1 Posts: 203
    jamesking93 said:

    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    in what way?
    As I explained, I think telling fans to stay away will result in fans lost forever. People will find better ways to spend there Saturdays. Don't have the answers but not attending has done no favours for the future of cafc in my oppinion. Anyway this is transfer rumour thread, I know my opinion isn't shared by most of you, but I'll be the first to put my hands up if I'm wrong and ppl do come back once his gone.
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Is this the argument thread?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    killerandflash said:

    tgarrat1 said:

    '“To be fair, all the young lads at Charlton are good ones. The future is definitely bright. Ezri [Konsa] is an exceptional player, there is a good chance he might go in the summer. Joe Aribo is exceptional. Karlan [Ahearne-Grant] is a good player as well, he broke back in at the end of the season.'

    From the SLP Bowyer interview.. sounds ominous r.e. Konsa

    He may go on to be a top player, but in terms of next season, Konsa is far less important that the likes of Holmes, Magennis or Pearce, I'd much rather lose him than those 3
    I don't agree. I think he has the potential to be just as, if not more important than at least two of those this season. he also brings some desperately needed pace to the backline, and athleticism to central midfield, plus can cover right back.

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    luke1 said:

    jamesking93 said:

    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    in what way?
    As I explained, I think telling fans to stay away will result in fans lost forever. People will find better ways to spend there Saturdays. Don't have the answers but not attending has done no favours for the future of cafc in my oppinion. Anyway this is transfer rumour thread, I know my opinion isn't shared by most of you, but I'll be the first to put my hands up if I'm wrong and ppl do come back once his gone.
    Fans will come back once they feel that the owner has the best interests of the club at heart and I don't mean that is just about winning.

    We are not Charlton fans because we demand success. At present our owner has no interest in the club other than satisfying his madcap experiment. If you want proof that he couldn't give a shit tell me when he last came and watched a game ?



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  • CyrilDavies
    CyrilDavies Posts: 855
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    luke1 said:

    jamesking93 said:

    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    in what way?
    As I explained, I think telling fans to stay away will result in fans lost forever. People will find better ways to spend there Saturdays. Don't have the answers but not attending has done no favours for the future of cafc in my oppinion. Anyway this is transfer rumour thread, I know my opinion isn't shared by most of you, but I'll be the first to put my hands up if I'm wrong and ppl do come back once his gone.
    Fans will come back once they feel that the owner has the best interests of the club at heart and I don't mean that is just about winning.

    We are not Charlton fans because we demand success. At present our owner has no interest in the club other than satisfying his madcap experiment. If you want proof that he couldn't give a shit tell me when he last came and watched a game ?



    So when the team start winning, what difference would it make, whether he came or not?
    Just my opinion, but I could not care less.
    I just want a successful, promotion winning team.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    CyrilDavies said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    luke1 said:

    jamesking93 said:

    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    in what way?
    As I explained, I think telling fans to stay away will result in fans lost forever. People will find better ways to spend there Saturdays. Don't have the answers but not attending has done no favours for the future of cafc in my oppinion. Anyway this is transfer rumour thread, I know my opinion isn't shared by most of you, but I'll be the first to put my hands up if I'm wrong and ppl do come back once his gone.
    Fans will come back once they feel that the owner has the best interests of the club at heart and I don't mean that is just about winning.

    We are not Charlton fans because we demand success. At present our owner has no interest in the club other than satisfying his madcap experiment. If you want proof that he couldn't give a shit tell me when he last came and watched a game ?



    So when the team start winning, what difference would it make, whether he came or not?
    Just my opinion, but I could not care less.
    I just want a successful, promotion winning team.
    I want a successful, promotion winning team too.

    I think there is more chance of that with proper owners and a competent CEO as has been proved last season, the season before that and the season before that.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    IF IF Kashi is fit and ready to go, that will be like a new signing and will do away with a lot of our midfield problems .. i.e. a lack of an accurate passer and a man who is generally available to take a pass in congested areas of the field
  • jonesyAddick
    jonesyAddick Posts: 159
    So we get the good news that we were all waiting for regarding Holmes staying and now people are digging him out already for something that they may have taken out of context, yes we have a shit owner but still......unbelievable!
  • CyrilDavies
    CyrilDavies Posts: 855
    Henry Irving said:

    CyrilDavies said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    luke1 said:

    jamesking93 said:

    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    in what way?
    As I explained, I think telling fans to stay away will result in fans lost forever. People will find better ways to spend there Saturdays. Don't have the answers but not attending has done no favours for the future of cafc in my oppinion. Anyway this is transfer rumour thread, I know my opinion isn't shared by most of you, but I'll be the first to put my hands up if I'm wrong and ppl do come back once his gone.
    Fans will come back once they feel that the owner has the best interests of the club at heart and I don't mean that is just about winning.

    We are not Charlton fans because we demand success. At present our owner has no interest in the club other than satisfying his madcap experiment. If you want proof that he couldn't give a shit tell me when he last came and watched a game ?



    So when the team start winning, what difference would it make, whether he came or not?
    Just my opinion, but I could not care less.
    I just want a successful, promotion winning team.
    I want a successful, promotion winning team too.

    I think there is more chance of that with proper owners and a competent CEO as has been proved last season, the season before that and the season before that.
    That was not what I said.
    What I said was "what difference does it make, whether Roland is there or not?".
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    Robinson promised a couple of things to get excited about, this is just one. Outrageous behaviour!

    We have some very exciting wingers now and if Kashi stays and we sign Reeves that is a very good midfield for this level. Just imagine an in-form Mag in the middle as the opposition's box is peppered with crosses.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    edited July 2017
    Card have caused more damage than Roland? Did card sell kermogant, morrison, Stephens, hamer etc and sign Koc, sarr, polish pete and the Romanian guy mostly on long contracts? Did card sell off the ticket office? What about The card sponsored sofa and sex tape and who can forget the card email to the manager telling him what formation to play!! Card have a lot to answer for
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    CyrilDavies said:

    Henry Irving said:

    CyrilDavies said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    luke1 said:

    jamesking93 said:

    luke1 said:

    blackpool72 said:

    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    You for real.
    Yeah I don't like Roland as much as anyone else, but I don't agree with the manner of the protests. Not the only one bud, quite a few of us.
    in what way?
    As I explained, I think telling fans to stay away will result in fans lost forever. People will find better ways to spend there Saturdays. Don't have the answers but not attending has done no favours for the future of cafc in my oppinion. Anyway this is transfer rumour thread, I know my opinion isn't shared by most of you, but I'll be the first to put my hands up if I'm wrong and ppl do come back once his gone.
    Fans will come back once they feel that the owner has the best interests of the club at heart and I don't mean that is just about winning.

    We are not Charlton fans because we demand success. At present our owner has no interest in the club other than satisfying his madcap experiment. If you want proof that he couldn't give a shit tell me when he last came and watched a game ?



    So when the team start winning, what difference would it make, whether he came or not?
    Just my opinion, but I could not care less.
    I just want a successful, promotion winning team.
    I want a successful, promotion winning team too.

    I think there is more chance of that with proper owners and a competent CEO as has been proved last season, the season before that and the season before that.
    That was not what I said.
    What I said was "what difference does it make, whether Roland is there or not?".
    Actually, no you didn't say that but no if it doesn't matter if Roland is there or not then it doesn't matter if the protesters are there or not.

    Yet there are constant pleas for fans to stop protesting and to attend games.

    Point is Roland not attending sends a clear message that Charlton means very little to him, a fact he has himself confirmed. I don't think that is a good situation for the club.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    moutuakilla said:

    Robinson promised a couple of things to get excited about, this is just one. Outrageous behaviour!

    We have some very exciting wingers now and if Kashi stays and we sign Reeves that is a very good midfield for this level. Just imagine an in-form Mag in the middle as the opposition's box is peppered with crosses.

    Reeves would be a good signing in a position that has been lacking for the last few seasons. Given that he ain't signed & the contract offer is reported on cafc picks as not being that much above MK Dons, it would be a surprise. Hope there is a plan B if he doesn't sign.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    luke1 said:

    Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

    CARD never told anyone to boycott.

    CARD didn't regularly change manager, insult the fans, sign poor players on ridiculous contracts or take us down to League 1 either. All despite spending £1m+ on various players for the first time in a long time.

    I understand not everyone agrees with protesting but it's nonsense to suggest CARD have caused more damage.

    Without the protests RD and his scouts could still be getting involved in the first team rather than letting an appropriate manager judge who to sign or sell.

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